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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #825 - Sep 4th, 2015 at 9:29am
 
How can I miss you  if you  won't  go  away?
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Reply #826 - Sep 5th, 2015 at 5:13pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 3rd, 2015 at 12:23am:
I'm afraid your logic is flawed old girl. If it were possible to disarm all the Obama supporters and other assorted Democrats our gun crime stats would drop to nothing. However deadly assaults in their neighborhoods would still be a major issue! The rest of us are responsible owners and don't need government or do gooders telling us how to live.


I wasn't aware that it was only Democrats which perpetuated gun violence in the USA, Mort.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #827 - Sep 6th, 2015 at 12:07pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 5th, 2015 at 5:13pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 3rd, 2015 at 12:23am:
I'm afraid your logic is flawed old girl. If it were possible to disarm all the Obama supporters and other assorted Democrats our gun crime stats would drop to nothing. However deadly assaults in their neighborhoods would still be a major issue! The rest of us are responsible owners and don't need government or do gooders telling us how to live.


I wasn't aware that it was only Democrats which perpetuated gun violence in the USA, Mort.   Roll Eyes


If these crimes were being committed  by  TEA Party  or NRA members  our  media  would  remind the public every day who was responsible!
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Reply #828 - Sep 6th, 2015 at 6:59pm
 
Reduce Firearm Ownership, Say Anti-Gun Researchers



But their skewed data actually, & embarrassingly, prove the opposite.  Grin



Source:   http://bit.ly/1XwPw93    Quote:
A new “study” by David Swedler, trained at the (gun control crusader Michael) Bloomberg School of Public Health, and co-authored by longtime anti-gun researcher David Hemenway, of the Harvard School of Public Health, uses rigged methodology to conclude that law enforcement officers are more likely to be murdered in states that have higher levels of gun ownership. As a result, Swedler and Hemenway say, “States could consider methods for reducing firearm ownership as a way to reduce occupational deaths of LEOs.”

In what may be the understatement of the century, Swedler and Hemenway concede that it’s “possible” that law enforcement officers are more likely to be murdered than other Americans because they have “more frequent encounters with motivated violent offenders.” To say the least. According to the FBI, from 2004 to 2013, 46 percent of officer murderers had prior arrests for crimes of violence, 63 percent had been convicted on prior criminal charges, 50 percent had received probation or parole for prior criminal charges, and 26 percent were under judicial supervision, including probation, parole, and conditional release, at the time of the officers’ murders.

On the other hand, Swedler and Hemenway say, law enforcement officers are able to defend themselves because they carry handguns, an argument that on its face endorses the carrying of handguns by private citizens, which is certainly not what the anti-gunners intended.

In painstaking academic detail, economist John Lott shows that Swedler and Hemenway skewed their study by comparing the number of law enforcement officers murdered with firearms in each state, to the percentage of suicides committed with firearms in each state, pretending that the latter accurately measures each state’s level of gun ownership. Additionally, the anti-gun researchers didn’t extend their comparisons over time to determine whether law enforcement officer murders increased or decreased in each state or did so in comparison to other states.

The anti-gunners also try to measure gun ownership with survey data, which is problematic, because over-reporting takes place in states where people are more supportive of gun ownership, while under-reporting takes place in states where anti-gun viewpoints are more common.

For the obvious reason, Swedler and Hemenway didn’t point out that law enforcement officer murders have been decreasing while ownership of firearms has been increasing dramatically. From 1993 to 2013, the most recent year of data from the FBI and BATFE, the annual number of law enforcement officers feloniously killed with firearms dropped 61 percent, while the American people acquired 140 million new firearms. In 2013, the number of law enforcement officers feloniously killed with firearms was less than half the annual average of the last 20 years.........



I love it when the Anti-Gunner Leftists, especially from such prestigious Leftist 'think tanks' ,
end up with their heads stuck deep where they got their bogus data!
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Reply #829 - Sep 6th, 2015 at 11:16pm
 
These arguments go on year after year and it always goes the same way. You say we will all be safer if we just accept new restrictions that will be ignored by criminals. Laws have already been passed to prosecute whoever uses a gun to commit a crime but somehow they rarely seem to get used.
Just because you will get a warm fuzzy feeling over new pointless restrictions on Citizens doesn't mean we will not do everything we can to stop you.

The goals of the Democratic Party have been to become the only electable Party so they can control every aspect of life here. Once they reach their goal of unopposed control we will move from the Fascism of Political Correctness to full blown Socialism and Social Justice. At that point we will stop producing anything of value and just trade fiat money for make work until the whole mess collapses.

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Reply #830 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 10:49am
 
Fancy helping other people, mortdooley.
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Reply #831 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:27am
 
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Reply #832 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:28am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 10:49am:
Fancy helping other people, mortdooley.


Know the difference between a hand-up & a hand-out?

Hand-ups are meant to help people until they get back on their feet & can do for themselves again, whereas a handout is meant specifically to addict & enslave the receiver, & where there is an ever increasing probability that they will never become self sufficient ever again.

The demonrat Party is the master of the hand-out, which eventually creates a dependent voting block, those that become addicted to cash, food stamps, welfare, etc....etc....etc, & will gladly vigorously vote, as many times as they can get away with, in order to maintain the demonrat Party's status quo.....keeping the income stream flowing.

Both parties do it here, but the Labor Party is the most flagrant.

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Reply #833 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:54am
 
Surely social justice includes a hand up.
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Reply #834 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:58am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:54am:
Surely social justice includes a hand up.


Social Justice is where you work all week and I share your  pay check with you!
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Reply #835 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 12:03pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:58am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:54am:
Surely social justice includes a hand up.


Social Justice is where you work all week and I share your  pay check with you!



You mean you get a slight proportion of my pay cheque, while far more of it goes to Defence.
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Reply #836 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 12:18pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 12:03pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:58am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:54am:
Surely social justice includes a hand up.


Social Justice is where you work all week and I share your  pay check with you!



............. far more of it goes to Defence.


You mean where we pay the government to do our killin' for us rather than us gettin' our hands all bloody like it ought ta be.

In the States they can amass a well armed citizen army of over 50 million strong within 48 hours that could put down any foreign force landing on it's shores..
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Reply #837 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 12:22pm
 
Panther wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 12:18pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 12:03pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:58am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:54am:
Surely social justice includes a hand up.


Social Justice is where you work all week and I share your  pay check with you!



............. far more of it goes to Defence.


You mean where we pay the government to do our killin' for us rather than us gettin' our hands all bloody like it ought ta be.



Why do we need the govenment to do our killing? Killing of whom?
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Reply #838 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 12:29pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 12:22pm:
Panther wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 12:18pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 12:03pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:58am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:54am:
Surely social justice includes a hand up.


Social Justice is where you work all week and I share your  pay check with you!



............. far more of it goes to Defence.


You mean where we pay the government to do our killin' for us rather than us gettin' our hands all bloody like it ought ta be.



Why do we need the govenment to do our killing? Killing of whom?



Anyone who decides that our country is here for the taking, as if they had a right to invade us. They would need killin'.  Wink
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Reply #839 - Sep 7th, 2015 at 12:32pm
 
Panther wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 12:29pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 12:22pm:
Panther wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 12:18pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 12:03pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:58am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 7th, 2015 at 11:54am:
Surely social justice includes a hand up.


Social Justice is where you work all week and I share your  pay check with you!



............. far more of it goes to Defence.


You mean where we pay the government to do our killin' for us rather than us gettin' our hands all bloody like it ought ta be.



Why do we need the govenment to do our killing? Killing of whom?



Anyone who decides that our country is here for the taking, as if they had a right to invade us. They would need killin'.  Wink




Oh good, who would that be?
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