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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22681 A cat with a view	Re: Disarming USA Reply #75 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:41am freediver wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 6:56pm: Quote: Guns don't kill people - people do. Oh great, more empty headed sloganeering from the NRA. They have spent billions lowering the IQ of the gun debate by 20 points.
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22681 A cat with a view	Re: Disarming USA Reply #76 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:42am freediver wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 6:56pm: Quote: Guns don't kill people - people do. Oh great, more empty headed sloganeering from the NRA. They have spent billions lowering the IQ of the gun debate by 20 points.
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22681 A cat with a view	Re: Disarming USA Reply #77 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:44am freediver wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2013 at 6:56pm: Quote: Guns don't kill people - people do. Oh great, more empty headed sloganeering from the NRA. They have spent billions lowering the IQ of the gun debate by 20 points.
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Reply #78 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:54am

If firearms are too dangerous for [peaceful, law-abiding] citizens to have possession of, then they are too dangerous for police officers [and other agents of a government] to have possession of too!

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Many police officers have been known to be criminals, and serving police officers have been known to use their own service weapon, to murder their own family members. [<----- at least one incident of this type has occurred in Western Australia]

One death is too many. Tongue

Texting while driving, has caused many serious accidents and deaths.

Cell phones are dangerous devices, that have been the cause of many deaths, and in the interests of public safety they should be banned. Tongue

One death is too many.

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Reply #79 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 1:31pm

All children should receive firearm training, firearm safety is very important. It is after they or anyone receives training they be allowed to handle real firearms, pistols or rifles and be allowed to shoot under supervision. That's what the process is here in sunny Australia, once a child is 12 years and 1 day old, training begins, some state shave minor variations to this. many an Olympic and Commonwealth games shooter started that way. Shooting again a very fast growing sport. As at 2014 there are 750,000 licensed shooters and from memory 1.7 million firearms, and growing daily. The more shooters we have the less vermin and pest roam our country, less foxes, pigs, rabbits and that is a good thing.

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Disarming USA Reply #80 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 1:33pm I can't think of many things more boring than sport shooting. Point, shoot, repeat, yawn, zzzzzzzzz.
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Reply #81 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 1:37pm

... wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 1:33pm:

I can't think of many things more boring than sport shooting. Point, shoot, repeat, yawn, zzzzzzzzz.

You obviously know nothing of pistol shooting, have never watched a Western Action shooting event or Bianchi Cup, or other pistol match involving movement and running like hell and engaging more targets and then some more. You need to get out more, try shooting and fishing, that's fun also.

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Reply #82 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 1:39pm

nasus wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 1:37pm:

... wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 1:33pm:

I can't think of many things more boring than sport shooting. Point, shoot, repeat, yawn, zzzzzzzzz.

You obviously know nothing of pistol shooting, have never watched a Western Action shooting event or Bianchi Cup, or other pistol match involving movement and running like hell and engaging more targets and then some more. You need to get out more, try shooting and fishing, that's fun also.

You're right, there is something more boring than sport shooting - watching sport shooting.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150690 Gender:	Re: Disarming USA Reply #83 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 1:41pm nasus wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 1:31pm: The more shooters we have the less vermin and pest roam our country, less foxes, pigs, rabbits and that is a good thing. Give me a few bunnies, over a mad man with a gun, any day.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 150690 Gender:	Re: Disarming USA Reply #84 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 1:46pm Yadda wrote on Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:41am: Stupid bitch, can't read.
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Reply #85 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 1:55pm

Chimp_Logic wrote on Dec 4^th, 2013 at 9:27pm:

There are plenty of countries around the world that have similar gun ownership rates as the USA, and yet DO NOT have the violence and gun related deaths as the USA does.

Really?

And which countries would they be?

The United States owns more guns per resident, at around 0.89, than any other nation in the world. The U.S. has over 50% more firearms per capita than the next two highest nations, Serbia and Yemen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country

http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/fileadmin/docs/A-Yearbook/2007/en/Small-Arms-Surv...

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Reply #86 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 2:40pm

Firearm death rates, shooting are most interesting. However people on this forum who wish to be mischievous do not quote those figures. Firearm deaths in America are low compared to numerous countries, the statistics or deaths per 100,000 are featured in many documented lists. Wonder why no-one who is anti gun never posts them. Countries that have far higher murder rates per capita start with Mexico from memory, then there are many more before America gets a mention. Also gun ownership per head of population are another interesting set of figures. hence, careful where you throw stones.

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Reply #87 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 2:51pm

nasus wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 2:40pm:

Firearm deaths in America are low compared to numerous countries, the statistics or deaths per 100,000 are featured in many documented lists. Wonder why no-one who is anti gun never posts them. Countries that have far higher murder rates per capita start with Mexico from memory, then there are many more before America gets a mention.

Mexico is roughly the same as the US (only slightly higher).

If you're looking at firearm-related death rates per 100,000 population, per year, Venezuela, Jamaica, El Salvador, and Honduras are some of the big players.

Countries with similar rates to the US are: Mexico, Argentina, and Paraguay.

Australia is way, way down the list.

(Americans are still gun nuts, though)

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Rocketanski Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1335 Gender:	Re: Disarming USA Reply #88 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 2:56pm If you are looking at firearm death the states is way behind many nations. Africa and the ratbag muslim countries would take the prize.
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Reply #89 - Jan 15^th, 2015 at 2:59pm

Rocketanski wrote on Jan 15^th, 2015 at 2:56pm:

If you are looking at firearm death the states is way behind many nations. Africa and the ratbag muslim countries would take the prize.

Well, Africa isn't a country.

However, South Africa's rate is double that of the USA.

The rate in Honduras is three times more than South Africa.

(Americans are still gun nuts, though)

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