Interesting baron, where did you get that bit of information from? can you send me link?

Look at the data I could find it seems that gun ownership rates have been increasing over the past ten years, but from a point much lower than ownership rates in 60-70"s( when firearm homicide rates were much higher)

Pho Huc wrote on Aug 11^th, 2015 at 12:41pm:


I have lived and worked in the USA, I have a card that states I am a Resident Alien.

How can we be certain on gun ownership rates in the USA when none of my friends and family who live there have ever been surveyed on the subject?

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 11^th, 2015 at 1:04pm:


I was referring to gun ownership rates in Australia, I should have clarified that.

Now where did you get your data showing that Australia has its highest ever level of gun ownership?

Pho Huc wrote on Aug 11^th, 2015 at 1:12pm:


I'm glad you clarified that PHuc, because in the USA the only number known to the government, therefore any statistical measuring entity, is the passes & failures of a taken background check, & even that number would be misleading. Gun dealers have their own personal records of their transactions, but due to legal restrictions, are not forwardable to any government database.

There is no National Firearm Registration Database in the USA........it doesn't exist, not because the government doesn't want one, it's simply nonexistant because the People through their representatives, have made such a database illegal......period, full stop.

So, how many guns there are in the USA......some estimate between 290 million & 350 million, give or take.......

How many people own guns.....only those willing to tell you that they do...do.....well maybe.....it's estimated by some as being between 90 million & 150 million.....give or take....you choose, because like the amount of guns,  it's a total unknown.

Now that the USA is moving swiftly towards "Constitutional Carry", when that becomes successful in the overwhelming majority of States, you'll never know, because the government becomes a non-issue...they're out of the loop....they don't need to be consulted, except that is, for background checks on firearm purchases which include no governmental paper trail (none that identifies the person investigated, what was bought, & how many weapons were purchased) as dictated by law......period....full stop. 

Panther wrote on Aug 11^th, 2015 at 1:32pm:


What is the benefit of not knowing how many guns there are and who has them?

Pho Huc wrote on Aug 11^th, 2015 at 2:01pm:


Disarmament by tyrannical, or any government for that matter.

Also, crims what your gun, why in heavens name would you want to provide them with a road map to your front door?

Government isn't too good at keepin private information from hackers, or haven't you noticed?

If they don't know who has them, & where they are so they can easily try to get them, they can't get them now can they.....   

The last people you should ever trust in this world is  government, especially if they think they have some power or leverage over you!

Pho Huc wrote on Aug 11^th, 2015 at 5:17pm:


Would you mind retracting your idiotic posts?

By mid 2012 we had imported over 1 million guns to replace the 640,000 that were bought back as part of the compensated confiscation,is that an increase or decrease in gun numbers?

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You did say you were involved with the greens perhaps that explains your idiocy on this subject.

David Shoebridge is upset because he has been caught peddling the lie more guns equals more gun crime, the fact is in Australia more legally owned guns has resulted in our lowest ever firearm crime rates.