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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #720 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 11:10pm

|dev|null wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 12:59pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:37pm:

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CC? Concealed Carry? Why would I want to do a course in that Baron? I don't conceal what I carry!

Are you familiar with the term to walk a mile in another mans shoes? You don't have to change your opinion but a little courtesy would be appreciated.

When the Baron stops automatically calling anybody who opposes his free use of a firearm a "hoplophobe" or a "gun grabber" and you give me some courtesty, I'll return it. When the Baron apologises for his use of intemperate language I might do the same. As I suspect neither of you or Panther are actually interested in discussion, much preferring to shout and holler at your opponents, I'll give you back what you give me. Grin

As far as I am concerned, you want to play with a gun, get a license and join your Militia - the US National Guard! Grin

That chip on your shoulder must get very heavy at times, no one is going to force more freedoms on you! There have been some really rude posts directed at me and my Home State. If it bothered me I wouldn't still be here!

Some time ago I had the same discussion with a person who was probably the most honest about his opposition to gun ownership. He felt if he were ever angry enough and owned a gun he would shoot the person who caused him that anger. He couldn't believe people had enough self control to not destroy their lives if a gun was readily available.

The world gets a twisted view of America from the Main Stream Media, people from other countries are amazed that it is as peaceful as it is. Prime time TV isn't any better. The police dramas solve the crime, kill the bad guy and everyone goes home satisfied all in 47 minutes excluding commercial breaks. Most of the family comedy programs generally present Dad as a metro-sexual clown. The only stereotype I see that is accurate is that we have a lot of fat people. I mean really fat, young women who dress like they are hot looking and could be if they were at least 100 pounds lighter. It probably has something to do with Hormones fed to food animals and GMO crops.

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #722 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 11:44pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 9:53pm:

Panther wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 6:59pm:

Sheriffs across US refuse to enforce tougher gun laws

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Sheriffs across the United States are refusing to implement new gun control laws passed by state legislatures, according to a report by the New York Times.

The numbers are particularly high in Colorado, where the majority of sheriffs have come out against the state’s new gun laws, including provisions requiring background checks for private gun sales and the banning of magazines over 15 rounds. Fifty-five of the state’s 62 elected sheriffs joined a federal lawsuit filed in May arguing the new laws are unconstitutional.

Even for some of those that didn’t sign onto the lawsuit, enforcement of Colorado’s new gun restrictions isn’t high on their list of priorities.

“All law enforcement agencies consider the community standards — what is it that our community wishes us to focus on — and I can tell you our community is not worried one whit about background checks or high-capacity magazines,” said Sheriff W. Pete Palmer of Chaffee County, Colorado, to the Times.

Last month, a federal judge ruled the sheriffs did not have standing to sue as a group, but that the court would still rule on the Constitutionality of the laws in question.

Regardless of the outcome, Colorado Department of public Safety Spokesman Lance Clem told the Times that when it comes to enforcing the law, sheriffs have significant latitude to make their own decisions.

“We’re not in the position of telling sheriffs and chiefs what to do or not to do,” he said. “We have people calling us all the time, thinking they’ve got an issue with their sheriff, and we tell them we don’t have the authority to intervene.”

While Colorado seems to be at the center of this gun control struggle, sheriffs in other states are also resisting attempts to curb the effects of new legislation. In New York, two sheriffs have already declared they will not enforce new laws passed by Governor Andrew Cuomo. State and local police file most felony gun charges in New York, but nonetheless Cuomo called the sheriffs’ decisions “a dangerous and frightening precedent.”.....

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I think that just means voting with your head. Something which generally doesnt occur much.

People vote with their feet whenever possible. Just in case you don't understand the reference, when people don't like laws they can't change they move. If they can't move they ignore new laws if possible.

There is also this option.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/09/10/colorado-recall-election-...

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #723 - Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 11:47pm

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 11:10pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 12:59pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Jul 31^st, 2015 at 10:37pm:

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CC? Concealed Carry? Why would I want to do a course in that Baron? I don't conceal what I carry!

Are you familiar with the term to walk a mile in another mans shoes? You don't have to change your opinion but a little courtesy would be appreciated.

When the Baron stops automatically calling anybody who opposes his free use of a firearm a "hoplophobe" or a "gun grabber" and you give me some courtesty, I'll return it. When the Baron apologises for his use of intemperate language I might do the same. As I suspect neither of you or Panther are actually interested in discussion, much preferring to shout and holler at your opponents, I'll give you back what you give me. Grin

As far as I am concerned, you want to play with a gun, get a license and join your Militia - the US National Guard! Grin

That chip on your shoulder must get very heavy at times, no one is going to force more freedoms on you! There have been some really rude posts directed at me and my Home State. If it bothered me I wouldn't still be here!

Some time ago I had the same discussion with a person who was probably the most honest about his opposition to gun ownership. He felt if he were ever angry enough and owned a gun he would shoot the person who caused him that anger. He couldn't believe people had enough self control to not destroy their lives if a gun was readily available.

The world gets a twisted view of America from the Main Stream Media, people from other countries are amazed that it is as peaceful as it is. Prime time TV isn't any better. The police dramas solve the crime, kill the bad guy and everyone goes home satisfied all in 47 minutes excluding commercial breaks. Most of the family comedy programs generally present Dad as a metro-sexual clown. The only stereotype I see that is accurate is that we have a lot of fat people. I mean really fat, young women who dress like they are hot looking and could be if they were at least 100 pounds lighter. It probably has something to do with Hormones fed to food animals and GMO crops.

Rather like the twisted view that many Americans get about Australia and it's gun laws from the NRA? How interesting that Hollywood doesn't hold a mirror up to the society around it. I'm always interested in how violent American TV shows are. They shy away from sex and instead embrace the violence which surrounds them it seems to me. Roll Eyes

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #724 - Aug 4^th, 2015 at 10:05am

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 11:44pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 9:53pm:

Panther wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 6:59pm:

Sheriffs across US refuse to enforce tougher gun laws

Quote:

Sheriffs across the United States are refusing to implement new gun control laws passed by state legislatures, according to a report by the New York Times.

The numbers are particularly high in Colorado, where the majority of sheriffs have come out against the state’s new gun laws, including provisions requiring background checks for private gun sales and the banning of magazines over 15 rounds. Fifty-five of the state’s 62 elected sheriffs joined a federal lawsuit filed in May arguing the new laws are unconstitutional.

Even for some of those that didn’t sign onto the lawsuit, enforcement of Colorado’s new gun restrictions isn’t high on their list of priorities.

“All law enforcement agencies consider the community standards — what is it that our community wishes us to focus on — and I can tell you our community is not worried one whit about background checks or high-capacity magazines,” said Sheriff W. Pete Palmer of Chaffee County, Colorado, to the Times.

Last month, a federal judge ruled the sheriffs did not have standing to sue as a group, but that the court would still rule on the Constitutionality of the laws in question.

Regardless of the outcome, Colorado Department of public Safety Spokesman Lance Clem told the Times that when it comes to enforcing the law, sheriffs have significant latitude to make their own decisions.

“We’re not in the position of telling sheriffs and chiefs what to do or not to do,” he said. “We have people calling us all the time, thinking they’ve got an issue with their sheriff, and we tell them we don’t have the authority to intervene.”

While Colorado seems to be at the center of this gun control struggle, sheriffs in other states are also resisting attempts to curb the effects of new legislation. In New York, two sheriffs have already declared they will not enforce new laws passed by Governor Andrew Cuomo. State and local police file most felony gun charges in New York, but nonetheless Cuomo called the sheriffs’ decisions “a dangerous and frightening precedent.”.....

http://i.imgur.com/u8VX9OX.jpg

I think that just means voting with your head. Something which generally doesnt occur much.

People vote with their feet whenever possible. Just in case you don't understand the reference, when people don't like laws they can't change they move. If they can't move they ignore new laws if possible.

There is also this option.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/09/10/colorado-recall-election-...

Good point, I guess that if Aussies arent happy with our laws, they'd move to the States.

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #725 - Aug 4^th, 2015 at 10:17am

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 11:10pm:

That chip on your shoulder must get very heavy at times, no one is going to force more freedoms on you!

No but you are seeking to take my freedom to live safely and comfortably away from me Mort! You have decided your freedom to own and use a dangerous weapon is more important than the safety of the rest of your family, community, society! Such selfishness! Cheesy

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There have been some really rude posts directed at me and my Home State. If it bothered me I wouldn't still be here!

So, you're a Texan then? Sorry to hear that. However, I haven't directed any criticism of the Lone Star state towards you Mort so I'm sure why you're criticising me! Grin

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The world gets a twisted view of America from the Main Stream Media, people from other countries are amazed that it is as peaceful as it is. Prime time TV isn't any better. The police dramas solve the crime, kill the bad guy and everyone goes home satisfied all in 47 minutes excluding commercial breaks. Most of the family comedy programs generally present Dad as a metro-sexual clown. The only stereotype I see that is accurate is that we have a lot of fat people. I mean really fat, young women who dress like they are hot looking and could be if they were at least 100 pounds lighter. It probably has something to do with Hormones fed to food animals and GMO crops.

I'd assume that the MSM doesn't make stories up Mort. I'd also assume that Hollywood is openly displaying stories that the American public likes. Violence, mayhem, death, destruction, all aspects of American culture which I found to be both true and untrue when I visited the US. Yes, people get murdered and it happens frequently but rarely as often as Hollywood portrays it. Grin

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #726 - Aug 4^th, 2015 at 10:36am

We only have to remember Alannah and Madeline to know Australia did the right thing following Port Arthur.

I'm certainly not against gun ownership but strict regulation is paramount.

There is talk about banning lever action shotguns in Australia. NO, NO, just ban anything over a four shot capacity.

And don't come 'the crooks don't follow the rules' because we all know what a load of bs that is.

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #727 - Aug 4^th, 2015 at 12:46pm

|dev|null wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 10:17am:

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 11:10pm:

That chip on your shoulder must get very heavy at times, no one is going to force more freedoms on you!

No but you are seeking to take my freedom to live safely and comfortably away from me Mort! You have decided your freedom to own and use a dangerous weapon is more important than the safety of the rest of your family, community, society! Such selfishness! Cheesy

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There have been some really rude posts directed at me and my Home State. If it bothered me I wouldn't still be here!

So, you're a Texan then? Sorry to hear that. However, I haven't directed any criticism of the Lone Star state towards you Mort so I'm sure why you're criticising me! Grin

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The world gets a twisted view of America from the Main Stream Media, people from other countries are amazed that it is as peaceful as it is. Prime time TV isn't any better. The police dramas solve the crime, kill the bad guy and everyone goes home satisfied all in 47 minutes excluding commercial breaks. Most of the family comedy programs generally present Dad as a metro-sexual clown. The only stereotype I see that is accurate is that we have a lot of fat people. I mean really fat, young women who dress like they are hot looking and could be if they were at least 100 pounds lighter. It probably has something to do with Hormones fed to food animals and GMO crops.

I'd assume that the MSM doesn't make stories up Mort. I'd also assume that Hollywood is openly displaying stories that the American public likes. Violence, mayhem, death, destruction, all aspects of American culture which I found to be both true and untrue when I visited the US. Yes, people get murdered and it happens frequently but rarely as often as Hollywood portrays it. Grin

Don't worry about what others have or do and maybe they won't bother you either.

If you have been to America and saw violence and other assorted crimes who were the people involved and what was their background?
Did they live in government housing, were they receiving welfare?

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #728 - Aug 4^th, 2015 at 12:57pm

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 12:46pm:

If you have been to America and saw violence and other assorted crimes who were the people involved and what was their background?
Did they live in government housing, were they receiving welfare?

1. They were American citizens (I assumed from their accents);
2. I have no idea what their backgrounds were;
3. No idea as I wasn't interested in asking them at the time;
4. No idea as I wasn't interested in asking them at the time.

So Mort, does the receipt of welfare and housing from the Government make people in the US more or less violent?

So, what does their background have to do with their involvement in crime?

So, not being US citizens make people in the US more or less violent?

Grin

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #729 - Aug 4^th, 2015 at 1:56pm

|dev|null wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 12:57pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 12:46pm:

If you have been to America and saw violence and other assorted crimes who were the people involved and what was their background?
Did they live in government housing, were they receiving welfare?

1. They were American citizens (I assumed from their accents);
2. I have no idea what their backgrounds were;
3. No idea as I wasn't interested in asking them at the time;
4. No idea as I wasn't interested in asking them at the time.

So Mort, does the receipt of welfare and housing from the Government make people in the US more or less violent?

So, what does their background have to do with their involvement in crime?

So, not being US citizens make people in the US more or less violent?

Grin

Men who never had a job, live with women on public assistance or sell drugs do tend to get into trouble with the law.
People who have good jobs and have plans to improve their lives by setting financial goals tend to not have trouble with the law.

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Reply #730 - Aug 4^th, 2015 at 2:04pm

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 1:56pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 12:57pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 12:46pm:

If you have been to America and saw violence and other assorted crimes who were the people involved and what was their background?
Did they live in government housing, were they receiving welfare?

1. They were American citizens (I assumed from their accents);
2. I have no idea what their backgrounds were;
3. No idea as I wasn't interested in asking them at the time;
4. No idea as I wasn't interested in asking them at the time.

So Mort, does the receipt of welfare and housing from the Government make people in the US more or less violent?

So, what does their background have to do with their involvement in crime?

So, not being US citizens make people in the US more or less violent?

Grin

Men who never had a job, live with women on public assistance or sell drugs do tend to get into trouble with the law.
People who have good jobs and have plans to improve their lives by setting financial goals tend to not have trouble with the law.

So, it's a class/socio-economic argument then? Grin

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #731 - Aug 4^th, 2015 at 3:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 11:41pm:

Panther wrote on Aug 3^rd, 2015 at 2:16pm:

I've put you on Permanent Ignore, so type yer heart out, I won't see you anymore, unless I press an override just to peek.

Except there isn't any ignore function on this bulletin board, DreamRyderX. Roll Eyes

Amazing what can be done with a little bit of JavaScript & Greasemonkey.

In short, via some clever JavaScript, when a page is loaded, it looks for the author. If the author set as IGNORED in the variables matches on the loading page, the JavaScript deletes all the text in that author's post(s) before the page even visibly loads. It works logged on or off, but if a different browser that doesn't use greasemonkey is used, then it's all bets off. Wink

This type of feature is probably available for all newer versions of
YaBB
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Hope that wasn't over yer head. Tongue

See Below(scroll).....he's all gone!!!
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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #732 - Aug 5^th, 2015 at 12:34am

|dev|null wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 2:04pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 1:56pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 12:57pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 12:46pm:

If you have been to America and saw violence and other assorted crimes who were the people involved and what was their background?
Did they live in government housing, were they receiving welfare?

1. They were American citizens (I assumed from their accents);
2. I have no idea what their backgrounds were;
3. No idea as I wasn't interested in asking them at the time;
4. No idea as I wasn't interested in asking them at the time.

So Mort, does the receipt of welfare and housing from the Government make people in the US more or less violent?

So, what does their background have to do with their involvement in crime?

So, not being US citizens make people in the US more or less violent?

Grin

Men who never had a job, live with women on public assistance or sell drugs do tend to get into trouble with the law.
People who have good jobs and have plans to improve their lives by setting financial goals tend to not have trouble with the law.

So, it's a class/socio-economic argument then? Grin

They would have you believe so but it is not.

Everyone including illegal alien children get a free education up to high school graduation. The home owners in the districts pay a huge tax to finance this. Every advantage we supply is free to all,if you can not make something of your life after that it is no ones fault but your own!
People who come here legally and don't even speak the language see their children become successful Professionals because of the opportunities America offers.

The only thing holding the "poor me crowd" down is their own subculture.

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #733 - Aug 5^th, 2015 at 11:30am

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 5^th, 2015 at 12:34am:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 2:04pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 1:56pm:

|dev|null wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 12:57pm:

Mortdooley wrote on Aug 4^th, 2015 at 12:46pm:

If you have been to America and saw violence and other assorted crimes who were the people involved and what was their background?
Did they live in government housing, were they receiving welfare?

1. They were American citizens (I assumed from their accents);
2. I have no idea what their backgrounds were;
3. No idea as I wasn't interested in asking them at the time;
4. No idea as I wasn't interested in asking them at the time.

So Mort, does the receipt of welfare and housing from the Government make people in the US more or less violent?

So, what does their background have to do with their involvement in crime?

So, not being US citizens make people in the US more or less violent?

Grin

Men who never had a job, live with women on public assistance or sell drugs do tend to get into trouble with the law.
People who have good jobs and have plans to improve their lives by setting financial goals tend to not have trouble with the law.

So, it's a class/socio-economic argument then? Grin

They would have you believe so but it is not.

Everyone including illegal alien children get a free education up to high school graduation. The home owners in the districts pay a huge tax to finance this. Every advantage we supply is free to all,if you can not make something of your life after that it is no ones fault but your own!
People who come here legally and don't even speak the language see their children become successful Professionals because of the opportunities America offers.

The only thing holding the "poor me crowd" down is their own subculture.

And the society around them and the police the society uses to enforce it's will and the penitentaries and jails, oh and the inability of alien residents who don't register from accessing social security and other welfare programmes, to name but a few of their problems Mort. I think you need to "walk a mile in another man's shoes" to understand the problems facing them... Grin

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