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Reply #675 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 8:12am
 
Where are they getting  these submachine  guns children  are learning  to  shoot?
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Reply #676 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 9:24am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Jul 29th, 2015 at 8:12am:
Where are they getting  these submachine  guns children  are learning  to  shoot?


Their loving parents, & those their parents entrust their children to for certified firearm instruction & training.

It's nothing new, nor is it illegal as far as I know.

http://bit.ly/1LQPraG

Smart? That's ONLY for the parents, & the training instructors to determine, not an overbearing Nanny Government, but illegal, no search I've done could find teaching young children to shoot any firearm as illegal. Owning if under 18, & carrying one unsupervised maybe, bit firing it supervised, not to my knowledge.


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Can it really be legal for an elementary school kid to shoot an Uzi?

"Assuming it was a pre-1986 machine gun and the sale was legal, then yes," says Laura Cutilletta, senior staff attorney at the
Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
Federal law prohibits children under 18 from buying guns, but they can still fire them with adult supervision.



Would I condemn, or make doing so illegal, NO....absolutely not.
 
If I saw the need for that kind of training, as long as the kids agree, I'd encourage it. Failing that, I'd wait till my child could exhibit the knowledge & maturity necessary that I, & only I, can base that decision on for my own children.
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Reply #677 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 3:08pm
 
I agree, I mean letting your kid play of Call of Duty is bad, giving them an Uzi has to be good.
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Reply #678 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 3:52pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Jul 29th, 2015 at 8:12am:
Where are they getting  these submachine  guns children  are learning  to  shoot?


From irresponsible parents who believe kids need to learn to fixate on guns from an early age...    Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
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Reply #679 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 5:45pm
 
On never knows when all those hours of practice might come in handy:




Well, that's one wanna be rapist that won't be coming back to anyone elses home anytime soon!

Good shootin girl, good shootin'!    Grin Grin Grin  Cool


Note, no charges were imposed for shooting the crim, the Firearm was loaded, & not locked up (by law - not required), next to her bed.....imagine if it were......9 shots means it was probably a semi automatic, not a revolver.

When Nanny laws aren't in the way,  lives are saved...homeowners are more secure.
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Reply #680 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 6:14pm
 
Children die, when firearms aren't secured.  How many kids have died in the USA because they played with grand-dad's/daddy's/mummy's/uncle's/aunt's/someone's gun?

Up to 100 children a year die from accidental shootings, research shows

Children and Guns: The Hidden Toll

More U.S. children killed in accidental shootings than you might think

Epidemic: Guns kill twice as many kids as cancer does

How many Sandy Hooks are needed to water your tree of patriotism Panther?  1, 10, 100, 1000?  How many innocent lives lost?  All so you get to keep and play with your guns!   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
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Reply #681 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 6:19pm
 
Here's how law abiding firearm owners, & the police should interact.



Note, the bad, bad, handgun didn't shoot anyone by itself from the rooftop of the cop car, contrary to reports from the Anti-Gunner Leftists that this does happen quite often,  happens without warning too so they say.   Shocked  Grin Grin   Roll Eyes
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Reply #682 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 6:35pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Jul 29th, 2015 at 6:14pm:
Children die, when firearms aren't secured.  How many kids have died in the USA because they played with grand-dad's/daddy's/mummy's/uncle's/aunt's/someone's gun?

Up to 100 children a year die from accidental shootings, research shows......
so?


Children and Guns: The Hidden Toll....
so?


More U.S. children killed in accidental shootings than you might think....
so?


Epidemic: Guns kill twice as many kids as cancer does....
so?


How many Sandy Hooks are needed to water your tree of patriotism Panther?  1, 10, 100, 1000?  How many innocent lives lost?  All so you get to keep and play with your guns!   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy



Ok, so, so what's your point?

It's heartbreaking, & people with firearms need to be ever vigilant, but in the end......that's life.

The tradeoff isn't worth scrapping/trading in vital  Liberty in the hopes of some fleeting, temporary, proposed security.

When you're stuck between a rock & a hard place, & need access to your firearm  immediately, the tradeoff of what might happen, isn't worth having to experience what will happen.....period.

What proof do you have her gun will cause the death of any playing, exploring child?

None whatsoever........

It can't be proven one child's life will be saved by her locking up her handgun.

Locking up her ammo somewhere else too....How stupid terribly idiotic!!!!!

BTW.......the laws ain't going to change like that in your lifetime, so play a different tune on your tiny violin.  Grin Grin Grin   ...


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Reply #683 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 9:04pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 3:13pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 1:45pm:
|dev|null wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 10:28am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 8:36am:
Marla wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:17am:
"Your definition of Militia is not the definition that was in effect when the Constitution was written back in 1789.

That 1789ish definition, & the writings of the Founding Fathers, & the Framers of the Constitution, stated simply that each/any person of age, able to fire a firearm, & able to come to the common defense, is in & of themselves, the Militia, when they combine with others they are then a combined Militia. The Militia therefore can be made up of as little as one person, or as many as can be assembled.

Regulated in 1789 simply meant trained to a level of competency, or calibrated as in a watch or other piece of machinery, to perform properly."


A "militia" has a Constitutional right to form and with use of firearms if they citizens see a viable threat from government tyranny. That is what the 2nd Amendment was all about not carrying a god damn AR-15 or a HK93


What type of weapons would a well regulated militia have?

I think AR-15 is the exact type of weapon a well regulated militia would have.

Around 300 firearm homicides every year in the USA from rifles which include assault rifles,over 6000 firearm homicides with pistols every year.
The statistics show pistols result in far more deaths than Ar15's in the USA.


So, lets get rid of pistols AND rifles from private hands in the USA!

Just think all the lives which would be saved!



Just think of all the lives that could be saved if you stopped these kids from having guns HB.
Why are you silent about this gun culture do you approve of it?
news.com.au/world/middle-east/islamic-state-hits-sickening-new-low-with-video-of...


Yes it is terrible.  As bad as any society which has fixated on guns as a source of power.  Just like the United States where children are taught to shoot sub-machine guns and semi-automatic rifles Baron.  I condemn them all.  Do you or are you being selective in your criticism (again)?   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy




In the USA kids are taught to shoot only at targets,in the Islamic state the kids are encouraged to shoot infidels they have videos of kids executing people.

What is worse HB,videos of American kids target shooting or videos of Islamic state kids shooting infidels in the head?



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Reply #684 - Jul 29th, 2015 at 11:27pm
 
It’s all in the way you present it:

Hillary, an amateur genealogical researcher, discovered that her great-great uncle, Remus Rodham, a fellow lacking in character, was hanged for horse stealing and train robbery in Montana in 1889.

The only known photograph of Remus shows him standing on the gallows. On the back of the picture is this inscription:

“Remus Rodham; horse thief, sent to Montana Territorial Prison 1885, escaped 1887, robbed the Montana Flyer six times. Caught by Pinkerton detectives, convicted and hanged in 1889.”

In Hillary’s Family History, her staff of professional image consultants, cropped Remus’s picture, scanned it in as an enlarged image, and edited with image processing software so that all that’s seen is a head shot. The accompanying biographical sketch is as follows:

“Remus Rodham was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory. His business empire grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and intimate dealings with the Montana railroad. Beginning in 1883, he devoted several years of his life to service at a government facility, finally taking leave to resume his dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a key player in a vital investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective Agency. In 1889, Remus passed away during an important civic function held in his honor when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed.”

While this story is clearly fiction it share much in common with some of the stories in your links!

This is my favorite:

Just a few weeks earlier, in Houston, a group of youths found a Glock pistol in an apartment closet while searching for snack money. A 15-year-old boy was handling the gun when it went off. Alex Whitfield, who had just turned 11, was struck. A relative found the bullet in his ashes from the funeral home.
It should say if we are honest that two or more Black thugs broke into an apartment and in the process of stealing everything of value discovered the owners safely stored handgun. Being both clueless and careless one of them was shot by his fellow thief. And no you would not have found the bullet in the ashes, lead melts at very low temperatures compared to other metals and the copper jacket would have been crushed by the grinder.

I understand your side of this HB, I was raised by liberal parents. The end goal is all that matters, lies,half lies or the truth twisted to serve your agenda. "The ends justify the means". Look at it like a team sport with no rules, winning is everything and how you get there is unimportant.
You don't care about the lives lost or saved only stopping the spread of Witch Guns.
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Reply #685 - Jul 30th, 2015 at 11:40am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 29th, 2015 at 9:04pm:
|dev|null wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 3:13pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 1:45pm:
|dev|null wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 10:28am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 8:36am:
Marla wrote on Jul 28th, 2015 at 12:17am:
"Your definition of Militia is not the definition that was in effect when the Constitution was written back in 1789.

That 1789ish definition, & the writings of the Founding Fathers, & the Framers of the Constitution, stated simply that each/any person of age, able to fire a firearm, & able to come to the common defense, is in & of themselves, the Militia, when they combine with others they are then a combined Militia. The Militia therefore can be made up of as little as one person, or as many as can be assembled.

Regulated in 1789 simply meant trained to a level of competency, or calibrated as in a watch or other piece of machinery, to perform properly."


A "militia" has a Constitutional right to form and with use of firearms if they citizens see a viable threat from government tyranny. That is what the 2nd Amendment was all about not carrying a god damn AR-15 or a HK93


What type of weapons would a well regulated militia have?

I think AR-15 is the exact type of weapon a well regulated militia would have.

Around 300 firearm homicides every year in the USA from rifles which include assault rifles,over 6000 firearm homicides with pistols every year.
The statistics show pistols result in far more deaths than Ar15's in the USA.


So, lets get rid of pistols AND rifles from private hands in the USA!

Just think all the lives which would be saved!



Just think of all the lives that could be saved if you stopped these kids from having guns HB.
Why are you silent about this gun culture do you approve of it?
news.com.au/world/middle-east/islamic-state-hits-sickening-new-low-with-video-of...


Yes it is terrible.  As bad as any society which has fixated on guns as a source of power.  Just like the United States where children are taught to shoot sub-machine guns and semi-automatic rifles Baron.  I condemn them all.  Do you or are you being selective in your criticism (again)?   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy




In the USA kids are taught to shoot only at targets,in the Islamic state the kids are encouraged to shoot infidels they have videos of kids executing people.

What is worse HB,videos of American kids target shooting or videos of Islamic state kids shooting infidels in the head?


Both are as bad as each other Baron.  The kids shooting at targets shaped like human beings in America are being prepared to shoot at real human beings.   The kids shooting real human beings were trained how?   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
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Reply #686 - Jul 30th, 2015 at 11:47am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Jul 29th, 2015 at 11:27pm:
You don't care about the lives lost or saved only stopping the spread of Witch Guns.


And you don't care about how many lives are lost because you don't care to stop the spread of your fetish objects.  Do you sleep with your guns Mort?  Do you gain pleasure from doing so?  'cause that is the level you've elevated them to!   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
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Reply #687 - Jul 30th, 2015 at 12:46pm
 
I don't care how  you  live your  life HB and  you  have  no  power  over  how  I live  mine! That is  your  main goal, to impose  your morally bankrupt  beliefs  on  others.
As for  sleeping  with  my  gun, actually  it is in a locked  box in the  night stand  next  to  the  bed along with  a powerful  flashlight. Enter the  right  code and the  box opens, otherwise  it stays  locked.
A gun is a tool, it  is  sporting equipment, it is a valuable asset. It can be Art and  a piece  of  history. Maybe  it is  a  fetish to you, it sure  seems to be  an  obsession  with  you!




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Reply #688 - Jul 30th, 2015 at 1:03pm
 
Mortdooley wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 12:46pm:
I don't care how  you  live your  life HB and  you  have  no  power  over  how  I live  mine! That is  your  main goal, to impose  your morally bankrupt  beliefs  on  others.


Is is caring for the lives of others, "morally bankrupt"?  You need your moral compass reorientated if you believe that!   I don't want anybody killed or hurt by people with guns.   You just don't care!    Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy

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As for  sleeping  with  my  gun, actually  it is in a locked  box in the  night stand  next  to  the  bed along with  a powerful  flashlight. Enter the  right  code and the  box opens, otherwise  it stays  locked.


Excellent, one step away from being a hazard from a wandering/wondering child's reach!  Is it loaded?  I suspect so.

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A gun is a tool, it  is  sporting equipment, it is a valuable asset. It can be Art and  a piece  of  history. Maybe  it is  a  fetish to you, it sure  seems to be  an  obsession  with  you!


You're the one obsessing over access to this object in a sexual manner.  That makes your gun adoration to the level of a religion.

Guns are dangerous weapons Mort.  They are used to threaten, harm or kill people or animals completely unnecessarily.   Next you'll be confessing you hunt and eat your killings!  How Antediluvian of you!   Or do you only hunt and kill black people?  Afterall, that seems to be the national sport at the moment in the USA, where the colour of your skin determines how much respect you get!!!   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #689 - Jul 30th, 2015 at 11:41pm
 
|dev|null wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 1:03pm:
Mortdooley wrote on Jul 30th, 2015 at 12:46pm:
I don't care how  you  live your  life HB and  you  have  no  power  over  how  I live  mine! That is  your  main goal, to impose  your morally bankrupt  beliefs  on  others.


Is is caring for the lives of others, "morally bankrupt"?  You need your moral compass reorientated if you believe that!   I don't want anybody killed or hurt by people with guns.   You just don't care!    Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy



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As for  sleeping  with  my  gun, actually  it is in a locked  box in the  night stand  next  to  the  bed along with  a powerful  flashlight. Enter the  right  code and the  box opens, otherwise  it stays  locked.


Excellent, one step away from being a hazard from a wandering/wondering child's reach!  Is it loaded?  I suspect so.



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A gun is a tool, it  is  sporting equipment, it is a valuable asset. It can be Art and  a piece  of  history. Maybe  it is  a  fetish to you, it sure  seems to be  an  obsession  with  you!


You're the one obsessing over access to this object in a sexual manner.  That makes your gun adoration to the level of a religion.

Guns are dangerous weapons Mort.  They are used to threaten, harm or kill people or animals completely unnecessarily.   Next you'll be confessing you hunt and eat your killings!  How Antediluvian of you!   Or do you only hunt and kill black people?  Afterall, that seems to be the national sport at the moment in the USA, where the colour of your skin determines how much respect you get!!!   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy


You don't care about the lives of others, you want to control the lives of others. I'm sure you believe you know what is best for all of us.

You really need to try to keep up, of coarse it is loaded! That is why it is in a steel box with a key pad lock. If it is found by a child the worst that can happen is the little bastard shakes the box and scars the finish on the gun!

The idea that someone will call me a racist has long since lost any power over me. Black on black crime is the norm, black on white crimes are common. White on black crime is rare that is why it gets so much attention.

Just because I have no respect for the black race doesn't mean I hate them, they will never get over their self imposed victimhood and I just don't care! The Asians don't like them, the Mexicans don't like them and the Whites are sick of them for their constant whining about everything. Nothing stops them from separating themselves from their supposed oppressors except they know they need us and we don't need them. 
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