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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Disarming USA Reply #510 - Jun 30^th, 2015 at 1:53pm And then even if they were under the Category B, you'd have to demonstrate a genuine need for a .50 BMG to own one.
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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #511 - Jun 30^th, 2015 at 4:14pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 1:52pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 1:12pm:

MumboJumbo wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

rhino wrote on Jun 25^th, 2015 at 7:22pm:

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The 2A says the right to bear and keep arms shall not be infringed
No it doesnt , it says this
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Oh. The key phrase is the well regulated part. (Also arguably the definite article "a" which limits to a singular militia -- ie, the army/national guard)

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

Baron, As far as as I am concerned, all transfers should be accompanied by a background check and that check should include histories of mental illness. They can be perfunctory between family members if you desire but they should still be performed. Roll Eyes

But, Brian, if only the sane yanks could buy guns, why, the market would collapse! Who would the manufacturers sell all those machine guns, flame throwers, and huge-caliber rifles to?

The key phrase is -The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.a well regulated militia sounds like they would have those scary black semi auto rifles in their arsenal.

The Firearm owners protection act 1986 bans the sale of machine guns,if you had one before 1986 you can keep it otherwise they are banned.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_Owners_Protection_Act#Ban_on_Machine_guns

In many states like California you cannot buy a 50BMG, in Australia you can buy a bolt action 50BMG with a category B licence.

The hoplophobic gun grabbers appear rather ignorant on current gun laws,machine guns have been a closed registry since 1986 there is no market for them,50 BMG is not allowed in many states despite the fact no crimes have been done with them.

I thought .50 BMGs were under the Category R license

A Category R licence is for hunting on public land.
dpi.nsw.gov.au/hunting/hunting-licences/restricted

A centrefire bolt action rifle with maximum magazine capacity of 10 rounds is Category B.

The 50BMG is an expensive rifle to shoot.
The rifles are also expensive to buy, you need a quality scope for long distance shooting so add another $4K for optics.
There are a few for sale at my local gun shop.
magnumsports.com.au/home.php?cat=654

In California,New York,Massachusetts,etc the 50 BMG is banned despite the fact there has never been a crime done with one,if criminals can afford to shoot a 50BMG then crime must pay.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Disarming USA Reply #512 - Jun 30^th, 2015 at 4:54pm Those arent firearm licenses. Thats the hunting license page.
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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Disarming USA Reply #513 - Jun 30^th, 2015 at 5:04pm http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/a/1996-74/current/pdf/1996-74.pdf According to this, page 196, .50 BMG is banned here too. Try reading, research, I know its difficult.
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Baronvonrort Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20351 Gender:	Re: Disarming USA Reply #514 - Jun 30^th, 2015 at 5:47pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 4:54pm: Those arent firearm licenses. Thats the hunting license page. You mentioned Category R and I showed you what Category R covers.
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Reply #515 - Jun 30^th, 2015 at 5:50pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/a/1996-74/current/pdf/1996-74.pdf

According to this, page 196, .50 BMG is banned here too.

Try reading, research, I know its difficult.

Your link is for ACT, it's not banned in NSW or other states.

Gun laws are a state responsibility, there is a variation between states,Qld allows Category D semi auto for landowners reversing the 1996 ban

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Reply #516 - Jun 30^th, 2015 at 9:04pm

In the U.S. of A. the .50BMG ammo is readily available at about +/- $2.00 per round ($1.00 for reloads).

.50 Cal Firearms are legal in most every state (save but a handful), even though they have not been linked to crime, & for no valid reasons, some Nanny States have made them 'temporarily' illegal. The NRA is pressing the fight to reverse that.

In the end if you live in the U.S. of A., & can afford the hefty price tag for say the Barrett Model 82A1 (as low as $7,800, but up to $9,200 US), & don't mind spending about $2 a round for the sheer fun of firing it, it's there just for the asking.................where you need not have any "NEED", & need not prove any. Cool

Barrett 2015 Product Brochure

BTW.....hope you know someone that has a 2000+ yard backyard to play in, because it looks like to enjoy this toy you'll need a lotta room ta ramble in.

Where else but In the Land of the Free, & the Home of the Brave!!!

Looks like a fun way to spend a lazy afternoon with the boys ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, & without the need for any beers. Wink

Disarming the USA??? ...... Yeahhhh, Riiiiiight!!

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Reply #518 - Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:28pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 5:50pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 5:04pm:

http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/a/1996-74/current/pdf/1996-74.pdf

According to this, page 196, .50 BMG is banned here too.

Try reading, research, I know its difficult.

Your link is for ACT, it's not banned in NSW or other states.

Gun laws are a state responsibility, there is a variation between states,Qld allows Category D semi auto for landowners reversing the 1996 ban

Looks like Category D is banned in NSW.

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #519 - Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:39pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:25pm:

Mmmm a youtube video of that fat buggerwit conspiracy nutjob Alex Jones, colour me convinced of the need to have Barretts

Haaa, Haaaaa......that's the Beauty of the Second Amendment......there is no need to prove anything to anybody......the only need is want, & as long as you can pay, aren't a Felon, & aren't Certifiably Insane, your going home with a .50 cal.

"........ the right of the People to Keep & Bear Arms shall not be infringed"

No need to prove any need in that right.

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Reply #520 - Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:42pm

Panther wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:39pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:25pm:

Mmmm a youtube video of that fat buggerwit conspiracy nutjob Alex Jones, colour me convinced of the need to have Barretts

Haaa, Haaaaa......that's the Beauty of the Second Amendment......there is no need to prove anything to anybody......the only need is want, & as long as you can pay, aren't a Felon, & aren't Certifiably Insane, your going home with a .50 cal.

"........ the right of the People to Keep & Bear Arms shall not be infringed"

No need to prove any need. http://imgur.com/6tcmHQH.gif

If Alex Jones gets a hold of one, I'm questioning the veracity of those mental health checks.

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #521 - Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:46pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:42pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:39pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:25pm:

Mmmm a youtube video of that fat buggerwit conspiracy nutjob Alex Jones, colour me convinced of the need to have Barretts

Haaa, Haaaaa......that's the Beauty of the Second Amendment......there is no need to prove anything to anybody......the only need is want, & as long as you can pay, aren't a Felon, & aren't Certifiably Insane, your going home with a .50 cal.

"........ the right of the People to Keep & Bear Arms shall not be infringed"

No need to prove any need. http://imgur.com/6tcmHQH.gif

If Alex Jones gets a hold of one, I'm questioning the veracity of those mental health checks.

Your opinion, my opinion................they matter not.....if he passes a background check, run for cover because like it or not he's goin' to have what he damn well wants!

It's his AMERICAN Right! Wink

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Reply #522 - Jun 30^th, 2015 at 11:57pm

Background checks are not the issue, publicity is! Every one of these murderers know they will become famous (infamous) by their actions. Their names and pictures will be everywhere, people will talk about them in the media for months if not years. The world will not be able to ignore them anymore because they are somebody now and not a nobody.

I would really like a little honesty from the Courts and Media about what prescription drugs these murderers were given as children and why! Or why not if they were known to be troubled.

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Reply #523 - Jul 1^st, 2015 at 12:03am

MumboJumbo wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 11:38am:

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Brian Ross wrote on Jun 26^th, 2015 at 12:15am:

Baron, As far as as I am concerned, all transfers should be accompanied by a background check and that check should include histories of mental illness. They can be perfunctory between family members if you desire but they should still be performed. Roll Eyes

But, Brian, if only the sane yanks could buy guns, why, the market would collapse! Who would the manufacturers sell all those machine guns, flame throwers, and huge-caliber rifles to?

The military? Roll Eyes

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Reply #524 - Jul 1^st, 2015 at 12:36am

Panther wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:46pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:42pm:

Panther wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:39pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30^th, 2015 at 10:25pm:

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Posted by: Brian Ross Mark & Quote Quote to have Barretts

Haaa, Haaaaa......that's the Beauty of the Second Amendment......there is no need to prove anything to anybody......the only need is want, & as long as you can pay, aren't a Felon, & aren't Certifiably Insane, your going home with a .50 cal.

"........ the right of the People to Keep & Bear Arms shall not be infringed"

No need to prove any need. http://imgur.com/6tcmHQH.gif

If Alex Jones gets a hold of one, I'm questioning the veracity of those mental health checks.

Your opinion, my opinion................they matter not.....if he passes a background check, run for cover because like it or not he's goin' to have what he damn well wants!

It's his AMERICAN Right! Wink

You're a bigger nutjob then he is

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