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Reply #420 - Jun 6th, 2015 at 6:15pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 6th, 2015 at 6:01pm:
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Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 4th, 2015 at 11:43pm:
arming of local police forces with military-grade hardware -


Well, poo. I'm glad I live in Aus, not that asylum.


You obviously missed the Lindt Cafe siege on national TV.  Coppers armed to the teeth with military-style firearms...    Roll Eyes
So they should've rocked up using harsh words then?
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Reply #421 - Jun 6th, 2015 at 6:15pm
 
rhino wrote on Jun 6th, 2015 at 6:13pm:
|dev|null wrote on Jun 5th, 2015 at 11:04am:
You don't think American black people generally have a right to be upset about how their police treat them?   Amazing!   Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy
Terrible, how dare the police treat criminals like criminals. Clearly, black people should get a free pass because they are black.


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In 2012, according to the CDC, 140 blacks were killed by police. That same year 386 whites were killed by police. Over the 13-year period from 1999 to 2011, the CDC reports that 2,151 whites were killed by cops — and 1,130 blacks were killed by cops.


http://libertynews.com/2014/12/facts-cops-kill-whites-at-almost-double-the-rate-...

Blacks cry foul because of the percentage disparity......White Americans are the racial majority, with a 77.7% share of the U.S. population. Hispanic and Latino Americans amount to 17.1% of the population, making up the largest minority. African Americans are the largest racial minority, amounting to 13.2% of the population.

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FactCheck: do black Americans commit more crime?


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Reply #422 - Jun 6th, 2015 at 8:22pm
 
double plus good wrote on Jun 6th, 2015 at 6:15pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 6th, 2015 at 6:01pm:
MumboJumbo wrote on Jun 6th, 2015 at 3:32pm:
Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 4th, 2015 at 11:43pm:
arming of local police forces with military-grade hardware -


Well, poo. I'm glad I live in Aus, not that asylum.


You obviously missed the Lindt Cafe siege on national TV.  Coppers armed to the teeth with military-style firearms...    Roll Eyes
So they should've rocked up using harsh words then?


Who suggested that?  I merely pointed out that Australian cops have military-style firearms at their disposal just as much as American cops do.  You really shouldn't try and erect strawmen arguments...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #423 - Jun 6th, 2015 at 8:33pm
 
Theres zero argument about whether blacks commit more crime, the only debate to be had is to why.
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Reply #424 - Jun 6th, 2015 at 10:03pm
 
rhino wrote on Jun 6th, 2015 at 8:33pm:
Theres zero argument about whether blacks commit more crime, the only debate to be had is to why.


Scurrilous Commentary by Fred Reed

Black Power
A Done Deal

October 30, 2014


As I write America waits, again, to see whether blacks will riot, this time in Ferguson. Will they loot, burn, kill, and rape? The usual? The police in Ferguson prepare to protect stores from looters, as rioters seem to regard their insurrections as shopping opportunities. Will it come, we wonder tensely? Will the destruction get out of hand, spread to other cities?

It is curious that blacks, the least educated thirteen percent of the population, the least productive, most criminal, and most dependent on governmental charity, should dominate national politics. Yet they do. Virtually everything revolves around what blacks want, demand, do, or can’t do. Their power seems without limit.

Courses of instruction in the schools, academic rigor, codes of dress, rules regarding unceasing obscenity, all must be set to suit them, as must be examinations for promotion in fire departments, the military, and police forces. Blacks must be admitted to universities for which they are not remotely qualified, where departments of Black Studies must be established to please them. Corporate work forces, federal departments, and elite high-schools must be judged not on whether they perform their functions but on whether they have the right number of blacks.

Do laws requiring identification to vote threaten to end multiple voting? The laws must go. Do blacks not like Confederate flags? Adieu, flags. Does Huckleberry Finn go down the Mississippi with the black person Jim, or Conrad write The black person of the Narcissus? These must be banned or expurgated to please blacks who haven’t read them or, usually, heard of them. Do we want to prevent people coming from regions infested with Ebola from entering the United States? We cannot. It would offend blacks.

We must never, ever say or do anything that might upset them, as virtually everything does. It is positively astonishing. One expects the rich and smart to have disproportionate power. But America is dominated from the slums.

One might think that a single set of laws should apply to all citizens, and that things should be done without regard to race, creed, color, sex, or national origin, and that all should have the same rights and responsibilities. It is not so.

The dominance of the media by blacks is impressive. If a white shoots a black to defend himself, it becomes national news for weeks, or months, and riots follow, but when blacks engage in their unending racial attacks on whites, the media demurely look the other way. The attackers are never black. They are “teens.” Reporters who say otherwise are likely to be fired. In effect, the thirteen percent censor the national press.

Much of their mastery has become so deeply engrained as no longer to be noticed. There is the DC Bob. In the bars and restaurants of Washington, a man weary of an incompetent affirmative-action hire in his office will, before commenting to a friend, lean forward, lower his voice, and look furtively over both shoulders to see whether anyone might overhear: The DC Bob. People don’t even know that they are doing this.

Defensive behavior by whites has become nearly universal. A sort of Masonic recognition-ritual occurs among white people recently introduced in social gatherings. Is the other person, for want of better terms, a liberal or a realist? Dare one speak?  One of them will say something mildly skeptical about, say, Jesse Jackson. The other rolls his eyes in shared disgust. The secret handshake.  Or, if the listener is politically correct, the bait is not taken. In either case, blacks dominate political conversation.

So extreme is the power to control speech and even thought that politicians have to avoid mentioning watermelons, that neighborhoods of high crime must delicately be called “sketchy” instead of “black,” though all understand what is meant.

The avoidance of racial reference is not an even-handed if despotic attempt to oppose racism since, as we all know, blacks freely apply any derogatory wording they choose to whites. In short, they rule. Which is amazing.

The dominance extends to children. When in junior high one of my daughters brought home a science handout with common chemical terms badly misspelled. “Is your teacher black?” I said without thinking. “Daaaaaaady!” she said in anguish, having made the connection but knowing that she shouldn’t have. Blacks control what you can say to your own children in your own home. And of course if I had gone to the school and demanded that the teacher be fired, it would have been evidence of my depravity and probable KKK membership.

The word “unbelievable” has lost all force.  Things that ought to be unbelievable, and once were, have become routine.  Still, there it was: Don’t expect a junior-high teacher to have the level of literacy I had in the fourth grade. Instead, make it dangerous to notice her stupidity.

This is not new, and it hasn’t changed. In 1981, in a piece for Harper’s, I wrote:

http://www.fredoneverything.net/BlackPower.shtml


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Reply #425 - Jun 6th, 2015 at 10:15pm
 
I wonder if Fred would believe he was in charge if he changed his skin colour and lived in the Ghetto for a year or two?    Roll Eyes
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Reply #426 - Jun 6th, 2015 at 10:20pm
 
we have the same deal with Aboriginal people in  this country Mort, only worse. despite being given advantages in education, social welfare and job opportunities that other racial groups here could only dream about they refuse to take them. Instead despite comprising less than 3 percent of the population they comprise a staggering 50 percent of the prison population. This is despite leniency given in sentencing simply because they are black.
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Reply #427 - Jun 6th, 2015 at 10:22pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 6th, 2015 at 10:15pm:
I wonder if Fred would believe he was in charge if he changed his skin colour and lived in the Ghetto for a year or two?    Roll Eyes


Actually Fred lives in Mexico where he is a minority!
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Reply #428 - Jun 6th, 2015 at 10:26pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 6th, 2015 at 10:15pm:
I wonder if Fred would believe he was in charge if he changed his skin colour and lived in the Ghetto for a year or two?    Roll Eyes
i suspect fred being fred would take his opportunities, ignore his skin colour and be out of the ghetto within a week.
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Reply #429 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 2:18am
 
Mortdooley wrote on Jun 6th, 2015 at 10:03pm:
But America is dominated from the slums.



Well, there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. The racist Texas education system at work. Never mind it was whites who instilled Jim Crow/segregation and that Jim Crow came from the remnants of the Civil War.

Now we have America's grands housing projects...sorry, "slums" to blame for all its social ills. Of course, Mort's white privilege only knows ignorance to such places. No, racism isn't the same as it was in Mort's day where you could lynch black people if they looked at a white person wrong - especially a white woman. Now they are housed like cattle into "slums" where drugs, gang violence, and lack of educational opportunities are set in place to keep then out of Mort's lily white Texas suburbia; good news for Mort is that there is unregulated police brutality to keep blacks beaten and hopeless is perhaps they dream of a better quality of life for themselves.

That's right, America is obviously dominated from the slums that racist like Mort have no other choice but plead fear and ignorance. What's the betting Mort that you feel "victimized" that you can no longer burn all those crosses still in your garage?

Go buy yourself another handgun, Mort. It might make you feel better about yourself although no amount of guns is ever going to make your penis grow.
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Reply #430 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 2:28am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 4th, 2015 at 10:30pm:
How would I instil discipline?   I'd start with the children.  "Give me a child until the age of seven and I will give you the man," St. Francis Xavier is reputed to have said.   Write off the older generation.  They've had their chance.  Create a new society where people understand what self-discipline actually means.

By "discipline" I mean respect for each other and respect for society and the laws of society.   No bullying, no hatred based on race/gender/sexuality/etc.  Children would be taught how to read, write and above all else, think critically about the messages that their parents try and impart onto them.   Roll Eyes



I'm disappointed in you. Give me a child at 7 who appears to be at risk and I'll show you another liberal social program that has failed him. You're not talking anything about discipline, you're talking 'Brave New World.' Lame-O.

Pipe dreaming and wishful thinking does not change human behavior in a culture of violence. For someone who claims to have a Master's you really lack might insight into the human condition.
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Reply #431 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 8:19am
 
Well, here is another thread that has gone from bad worse. But the title was an oxymoron anyway.
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Reply #432 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 9:17am
 
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So, who has a plan on disarming America, not just hot air & bluster mixed with platitudes, but a legitimate plan?

I say, regardless of little bumps & hiccups down the years, I say it can't & won't be done even if the majority of Americans thinks it's time.

You'd easier stop America from breathing fresh air then getting them to pass in their guns.

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Reply #433 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 9:19am
 
rhino wrote on Jun 6th, 2015 at 10:20pm:
we have the same deal with Aboriginal people in  this country Mort, only worse. despite being given advantages in education, social welfare and job opportunities that other racial groups here could only dream about they refuse to take them. Instead despite comprising less than 3 percent of the population they comprise a staggering 50 percent of the prison population. This is despite leniency given in sentencing simply because they are black.



it is an almost insurmountable world wide problem..

them and us....

as the pendulum swings....it always seems to go overboard....never steady in the middle..

the black people want equality...they want to be treated as if they are white....fair enough...

but on the other hand.. they also want preferential treatment..

maybe when they realise they have to earn special treatment....like earn entry to University.. get the job because they are better than the rest.,.. not because of the skin colour...

then yes they might be seen as equal by the majority...and its the majority that matters not the oafs who seem to hog the headlines....the blacks have come a long way... but there is heaps to do on both sides....at this very moment I think its the blacks turn to show us what they will do to win respect.....

and for me it isnt complaining and stealing and burning.... they will need to do better than that..

the lady that refused to sit in the back of the bus.. because she thought she was equal .. has my respect...she didnt demand or scream she just did it.....

she showed people how ugly they were without sayinga word..
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Reply #434 - Jun 7th, 2015 at 10:41am
 
As everyone in the world seems to want to   'Nanny'   America into a state of gunlessness, America seems to be steadily moving in the opposite direction, much to the chagrin of the so called, self-proclaimed  'sane'  gun-free world  Smiley



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Everytown Loses Big in Nevada



Source:IRA-ILA Quote:
Say goodbye to handgun registration in and around Las Vegas, Nevada. On Monday, Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval signed Senate Bill 175, abolishing Clark County's "blue card" handgun registration system while ushering in a host of other pro-gun changes to state law.

Michael Bloomberg's anti-gun group, Everytown, tried hard to defeat the bill. The bill contains several provisions that expand and protect the right to carry and use firearms for self-defense. First, it extends Castle Doctrine protection to people who use firearms to defend themselves in their vehicles. Next, it provides greater protection against civil lawsuits, to those who use firearms to defend themselves against certain violent criminals. It also extends Right-to-Carry permit reciprocity to a greater number of states and strengthens state preemption of local gun control ordinances.

NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris W. Cox noted that S.B. 175 "is part of a growing trend across the country of states extending greater recognition to people's constitutional rights and
strengthening their ability to protect their families from harm
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Methinks disarming the USA just became a tiny bit more difficult..........  Wink


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