Everyone has the right to their own opinions......

Marla, for what it's worth, agree or disagree, you're a breath of fresh air here....it's nice to hear from someone not afraid of sticking their tongue in an electrical socket!   

Maybe we might start a thread on

"Dead American President's  --   Good, Bad, & Indifferent"

, & maybe we could fill it with some things they won't find in history books, or in some obscure place on the Internet.

Mortdooley wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2015 at 10:33pm:


Do you hold a "college" (in the rest of the world, University) degree, Mort?

Personally, I hold a Masters in Politics and History.  It taught me critical thinking and allowed me to understand how the world operates.   I've met some real dumb people who hold medical/engineering degrees, over the years.   I've also met some dumb people who hold social sciences degrees.  I've also met real smart people who hold degrees.   I've worked around such people all my life so I'm often surprised to discover people who disparage the types of degrees that people hold, merely because of their own experiences.   Anti-Intellectualism seems to be particularly popular I've found amongst those who are jealous of those who have University degrees.

While you're right that those people who don't go to University tend to get an initial leg up building their careers, those that do go to University tend to quickly surpass them once they have graduated.

This though, is all external to the question of whether or not the US should be disarmed or not.   It is just a red herring that you're attempting to raise to distract us from the key question.

I'll reiterate what I've said before.  The US doesn't need disarming.   It's population needs discipline and the existing laws enforced.  If the US's population grew up, it'd be a great nation!   

Brian Ross wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2015 at 11:45pm:


How would you go about doing that? What you are proposing is platitude; lame liberal pipe dreaming. With all the laws and regulations that come with owning a gun not one has proven anything in the way of discipline. How many laws are in the Australian books of social behavior and yet people there still rape, murder and rob?

You simply cannot discipline a society that has been raised on violence that predominates it culture. In America where reactionary politics take hold after a mass shooting not much is done in the way of gun reform. By that, better background checks on mental illnesses, past aggressive behavior infractions, inability to hold any responsibility by owning a firearm (e.g., being reckless with it) should be in place to keep those who have these behavioral patterns away from guns for good.

Of course, that will never happen when NRA lobbying, paranoid rednecks and continued use of gun violence as a means to an end in movies, TV, books, video games overrule common sense.

You need to be crystal clear by what you mean by "discipline." If you are suggesting some form of governmental control/involvement than that is tyranny, not reform.

Marla wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:40am:


Far fewer people "rape, murder and rob" in Australia than in the USA, Marla.

How would I instil discipline?   I'd start with the children.  "Give me a child until the age of seven and I will give you the man," St. Francis Xavier is reputed to have said.   Write off the older generation.  They've had their chance.  Create a new society where people understand what self-discipline actually means.

By "discipline" I mean respect for each other and respect for society and the laws of society.   No bullying, no hatred based on race/gender/sexuality/etc.  Children would be taught how to read, write and above all else, think critically about the messages that their parents try and impart onto them.   

Texas votes 'open carry'.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/texas-verge-passing-open-carry-law/

Given the recent rhetoric inflaming 'black' hostility to police shootings (still under discussion) and the arming of local police forces with military-grade hardware - interesting times.

MSM-inflamed interracial tensions is a bad policy for America at this time.

Martial law, in any form, would be bad news.

Lionel Edriess wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 11:43pm:


Well, poo. I'm glad I live in Aus, not that asylum.

Marla wrote on Jun 4^th, 2015 at 1:40am:


Edited for accuracy.

So, now that you have decided what you are up against, how are you going to disarm the USA? 



They sure as hell aren't going to self-disarm!

And if you can't do it yourself, who can, & how easily can it be done, providing you know who, if anyone, can do it?