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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #390 - May 28^th, 2015 at 11:49pm

Ive been to the states a few times. i like Americans, but the truth is, they are scared people. Scared of their government, scared of their fellow Americans and scared of foreigners. The strange thing is, they denigrate other countries for having too many laws which protect peoples rights while they themselves live in fear of just about everything.

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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #392 - May 29^th, 2015 at 10:50am

rhino wrote on May 28^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:

Ive been to the states a few times. i like Americans, but the truth is, they are scared people. Scared of their government, scared of their fellow Americans and scared of foreigners. The strange thing is, they denigrate other countries for having too many laws which protect peoples rights while they themselves live in fear of just about everything.

Which is why they have so many nukes... Grin

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Reply #393 - May 29^th, 2015 at 12:11pm

Marla wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 8:41am:

rhino wrote on May 28^th, 2015 at 11:45pm:

And im very good at sniffing bullsh1t.

Right you are. You spew so much of it no wonder much of it lands on your nose.

Well done Marla, well done!

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rhino wrote on May 28^th, 2015 at 11:49pm:

Ive been to the states a few times. i like Americans, but the truth is, they are scared people. Scared of their government, scared of their fellow Americans and scared of foreigners. The strange thing is, they denigrate other countries for having too many laws which protect peoples rights while they themselves live in fear of just about everything.

Rhiney, you've never really been to the United States, & you know it.

Stop the BS, you're totally full of it, the flies are having a feast.

President Ronald Reagan once said .... "Trust, but Verify"

You wouldn't know the difference between fear & concern or caution if it bitchslapped ya unconscious.

It's a shortcoming you obviously have. Actually, it must be an acquired cultural disorder. This forum is rife with it.

You haven't met any Americans yourself, so all your fluffy baseless blustering is full of blind bias, & shows your total fear of the unknown. Roll Eyes

So Rhiney, how's the shoe, when it's on the other foot? Wink

BTW.....missed your 'delightful sweetness' the past few days -- Glad yer back. Cheesy

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Reply #395 - May 29^th, 2015 at 1:12pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 12:22pm:

Admittedly Reagan was talking about nukes, and he didn't invent it, he heard it and liked it.

And being Reagan, he used it ad nauseum apparently.

Nice trivia Pastafarian.

The fact is he said it, & that's all I care. JFYI .... He related it to more than nukes. Wink

How often, who cares ..... it worked, & it caught on like a brushfire.....especially in 1984 against Wally & Jerry! Grin

Who gives a rat's @ss who wrote it, hatched it, invented it, or frawkin' spawned it..............besides you, that is!? Grin

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Reply #396 - May 29^th, 2015 at 1:41pm

Panther wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 12:11pm:

You wouldn't know the difference between fear & concern or caution if it bitchslapped ya unconscious.

I think he does by conservative right wing American media which peddles fear porn like no other all in order to sell you some b.s. corporate product that either glorifies war or places you into further debt. If Americans are living in fear it's due to economic concerns than geopolitical. The anxiety can't be much different in Australia where many don't know if they'll even have a job tomorrow morning.*

As for nukes, I agree the increase was Reagan's meandering paranoia that there was an Ivan hiding in every middle class home throughout suburban America. I went to school not too far from where they used to manufacture the plutonium triggers (Rocky Flats). The place today is nothing more than an environmental disaster wasteland that the U.S. Government tells us is an "animal friendly nature preserve." So there is some fear, yes, but not the type Rhino spews.

*I just realized my today is your yesterday. A voice from the past, indeed.

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Reply #397 - May 29^th, 2015 at 2:00pm

Marla wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 1:41pm:

Panther wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 12:11pm:

You wouldn't know the difference between fear & concern or caution if it bitchslapped ya unconscious.

I think he does by conservative right wing American media which peddles fear porn like no other all in order to sell you some b.s. corporate product that either glorifies war or places you into further debt. If Americans are living in fear it's due to economic concerns than geopolitical. The anxiety can't be much different in Australia where many don't know if they'll even have a job tomorrow morning.*

As for nukes, I agree the increase was Reagan's meandering paranoia that there was an Ivan hiding in every middle class home throughout suburban America. I went to school not too far from where they used to manufacture the plutonium triggers (Rocky Flats). The place today is nothing more than an environmental disaster wasteland that the U.S. Government tells us is an "animal friendly nature preserve." So there is some fear, yes, but not the type Rhino spews.

*I just realized my today is your yesterday. A voice from the past, indeed.

I agree with you for the most part, but the Liberal MSM doesn't get a free pass either when it comes to the 'fear & hate mongering game'.

Just a clarification on Reagan & nukes, he played a double sided sword.

On one side he wanted to make sure America had more than 'Ivan', but the other side .... his main objective was to try & collapse the USSR by spending them into a place that they couldn't survive, & that he did.

"The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his."

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Reply #398 - May 29^th, 2015 at 2:06pm

Panther wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 1:12pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 12:22pm:

Admittedly Reagan was talking about nukes, and he didn't invent it, he heard it and liked it.

And being Reagan, he used it ad nauseum apparently.

Nice trivia Pastafarian.

The fact is he said it, & that's all I care. JFYI .... He related it to more than nukes. Wink

How often, who cares ..... it worked, & it caught on like a brushfire.....especially in 1984 against Wally & Jerry! Grin

Who gives a rat's @ss who wrote it, hatched it, invented it, or frawkin' spawned it..............besides you, that is!? Grin

Well as you seem to claim later on, Reagan was apparently a genius, when the evidence tends to show that he wasn''t.

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Reply #399 - May 29^th, 2015 at 2:12pm

Panther wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 2:00pm:

I agree with you for the most part, but the Liberal MSM doesn't get a free pass either when it comes to the 'fear & hate mongering game'.

Maybe. Only their corporate products don't glorify war. Well, for the most part.

Panther wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 2:00pm:

On one side he wanted to make sure America had more than 'Ivan', but the other side .... his main objective was to try & collapse the USSR by spending them into a place that they couldn't survive, & that he did.

Reagan did nothing but take a page from the Goebbels Book of Propaganda claiming that many American universities were working in conjunction with the defense department to point out his absurd "Star Wars" initiative was close to (death star) operation. Could not have been further from the truth.

Really the Russian economy was already in shambles due to they had zero currency status on the world market to begin with. Bankrupting them out of the fear they would lose their infrastructure was a brilliant move though I find it hard to believe Reagan thought of that on his own.

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Reply #400 - May 29^th, 2015 at 2:13pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 2:06pm:

Panther wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 1:12pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 12:22pm:

Admittedly Reagan was talking about nukes, and he didn't invent it, he heard it and liked it.

And being Reagan, he used it ad nauseum apparently.

Nice trivia Pastafarian.

The fact is he said it, & that's all I care. JFYI .... He related it to more than nukes. Wink

How often, who cares ..... it worked, & it caught on like a brushfire.....especially in 1984 against Wally & Jerry! Grin

Who gives a rat's @ss who wrote it, hatched it, invented it, or frawkin' spawned it..............besides you, that is!? Grin

Well as you seem to claim later on, Reagan was apparently a genius, when the evidence tends to show that he wasn''t.

His genius was being able to get others to do what they didn't want to do, but had no political choice not to.

Worked with the his dealings with the Reds & the Dems, to mention but two.

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Reply #402 - May 29^th, 2015 at 2:19pm

Panther wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 2:13pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 2:06pm:

Panther wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 1:12pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 12:22pm:

Admittedly Reagan was talking about nukes, and he didn't invent it, he heard it and liked it.

And being Reagan, he used it ad nauseum apparently.

Nice trivia Pastafarian.

The fact is he said it, & that's all I care. JFYI .... He related it to more than nukes. Wink

How often, who cares ..... it worked, & it caught on like a brushfire.....especially in 1984 against Wally & Jerry! Grin

Who gives a rat's @ss who wrote it, hatched it, invented it, or frawkin' spawned it..............besides you, that is!? Grin

Well as you seem to claim later on, Reagan was apparently a genius, when the evidence tends to show that he wasn''t.

His genius was being able to get others to do what they didn't want to do, but had no political choice not to.

Worked with the his dealings with the Reds & the Dems, to mention but two.

"One way to make sure crime doesn't pay would be to let the government run it." Ronny

Again, I'd dispute that actually come from Ronald himself. Advisors etc.

Very much in the Dubya mode. A figurehead, whilst all the underlings did the work and thinking.

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Reply #403 - May 29^th, 2015 at 2:21pm

Marla wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 2:12pm:

Really the Russian economy was already in shambles due to they had zero currency status on the world market to begin with. Bankrupting them out of the fear they would lose their infrastructure was a brilliant move though I find it hard to believe Reagan thought of that on his own.

Ah, Timing was everything. When better to push them over the cliff than when they were at the edge.

As far as designing the entire policy, President Reagan always surrounded himself with people who could work out the particulars.

He used the word 'We' many times when he spoke of his dreams, & political policies. That wasn't by accident, for down deep he was a humble man, but a man not afraid to draw from his & others inner strengths. Another successful trait. Wink

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Reply #404 - May 29^th, 2015 at 2:24pm

Panther wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 2:21pm:

Marla wrote on May 29^th, 2015 at 2:12pm:

Really the Russian economy was already in shambles due to they had zero currency status on the world market to begin with. Bankrupting them out of the fear they would lose their infrastructure was a brilliant move though I find it hard to believe Reagan thought of that on his own.

Ah, Timing was everything. When better to push them over the cliff than when they were at the edge.

As far as designing the entire policy, President Reagan always surrounded himself with people who could work out the particulars.

He used the word 'We' many times when he spoke of his dreams, & political policies. That wasn't by accident, for down deep he was a humble man, but a man not afraid to draw from his & others inner strengths. Another successful trait. Wink

PLus he had a good speechwriter.

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