Panther wrote on May 22^nd, 2015 at 8:40pm:


I don't have the luxury of calling you by your first name, perhaps you can PM me with it so we can be more congenial & I may reciprocate in kind, that is only if you're comfortable enough doing so.


  We are not mortal foes, not even close, we just have differing opinions,  so I look forward in debating the issue(s) amicably with you, rather than arguing headstrong looking for an absolute outcome where personal negativeness & name-callings abound. 



Personal notes aside, if you read my text (above) I never said that each & every gun-owner would come to shot if a confiscation event came about, quite to the contrary, especially if it's a natural Constitutional process where a new Constitutional Amendment would remove & replace the Second Amendment.......Katrina was a one-off event, with confiscations on a extremely limited scale, where government was subsequently made aware of their Constitutional limitations, & gun-owners learned about the blacker & uglier side of what a rogue government might attempt in the future.



Let's just say Obama, in his waning hours at the helm, decreed on June 1^st that all firearms were to be confiscated on July 4^th, I would speculate to bet that things would be a tad bit different ......... you're talking about 2 to 3 hundreds of millions of firearms in the hands of well over 100 million firearm owners. even if 90% gave in their arms peaceably, that would mean over 10 million owners that would forcefully resist (the most hard core). That's a force that would outnumber the entire US Army, Navy, & Air force combined.... maybe not in firepower, but definitely stronger & more determined in resolve. Why? Simply because the American Armed Forces would have ethical difficulty firing upon their fellow Americans, & many would probably join up with the resistance forces because they respect the Constitution & the Rights of their fellow Americans.


So, do you think the 4^th of July would be peaceful by any stretch?

No, I sincerely doubt it, & we're most probably talking about a Civil War which would rival the first Civil War which pitted brother agin brother.

Remember one very important thing here too.


In their Oaths of Service, Armed Service Personnel & local law enforcement alike ALL swore to protect & enforce  the US Constitution, which includes the Second Amendment (from the original Bill of Rights) which states quite clearly that the Inalienable American Right to KEEP & BEAR ARMS shall not be Infringed.

These oaths did not say they could choose which part or parts of the Constitution they were obligated to protect, they swore to a solemn oath to protect & defend the ENTIRE Constitution.


IMHO the Large Scale Disarming of American Citizens/gun-owners can never realistically succeed, & as far as a hand-in/buyback, IMHO they'd get a few, but the overwhelming majority of firearms would still be "in the wild".     

Americans like to talk big about their gun ownership but the reality is that most people would go quite peacefully to their deaths, as long as they are assured of their safety, DRX.   Don't believe what they post on the internet, supposedly secure in their anonymity.   

All that would be needed would be the US Army to get serious about confiscation and to kill a few diehards for the rest to give up their weapons.

Mortdooley wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 1:23pm:

Typical gun nuttery stuff, Mort.  Just keep taking your medication, you'll find it helps you become a more normal person...   

Brian Ross wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 1:23pm:


Well, you so misunderstand & underestimate American resolve, & their distrust of government. The government to promise them complete & utter safety, most would just spit to the ground & say "Yeah, we heard all that before", "I'll take care of me & my own thank you very much, but no thanks".  All you have to do is hint that there might be a law to ban this firearm, or that ammunition. That would spark a buying frenzy like no other......they were going to ban over 10 round magazines, & the AR15 Hunting Rifle (the left calls an assault rifle 'cause it looks scarey) supplies of all large magazines & AR15's nationwide were near to sold out in just a few short days.











The shelves are bare, all the ammo is already sold out, but rest assured plenty more is on the way from the manufacturers, & will be sold to gun owners irregardless of any illegal Presidential decree for an ammo ban, so say the manufacturers & gun merchants.

Obama is a joke, but he needs to tread softly. He's playing a dangerous game, & he may get himself impeached.


Make it illegal, & they will buy, buy, buy!!  It's the American way.

Rifles, pistols, shotguns & explosives were confiscated from Japanese-Americans in Hawaii after Pearl Harbour. 1942. Not one fought the confiscation.

Mortdooley wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 1:23pm:

Question for ya Mort. Do officers in your prisons carry guns?

Brian Ross wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 3:52pm:


Just wondering.........Brian, if you knew someone who was, or if you yourself were a dual citizen, & if you or they lived 2 to 3 months of the year in the USA, amongst some of the people you write off as gun nuts, would you think you might be better informed, & in a better position to know the facts, than someone who's only exposure to the issues was what they Googled, or heard second hand from sources without any first hand knowledge? 

Ps.....this is not a trick question. Just a simple desire to know your thoughts on the subject.

Panther wrote on May 24^th, 2015 at 5:45pm:

lol, youve never been to the US.