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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #300 - May 22nd, 2015 at 10:22am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 10:35pm:
Panther wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 8:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:48pm:
For a supposed ground and pound with mixed martial arts tactics, never mind the fact that the witness is speculating, Zimmerman looks pretty lightly injured.


How lightly injured or not Zimmerman was injured is a matter that the jurors, who were charged with the law by the judge, gave the weight it deserved (required by the law the judge told them they needed to deliberate upon).

The testimony & evidence didn't have to convince anyone but the jurors, who found him not guilty.

Anything else is speculation.



What 12 Floridans?

The jury system is f**ked. It comprises of 12 idiots who can't get out of jury duty.


Awwww, they didn't vote the way you would have ...... Oh well.   ...

As Mort said, getting out of jury duty in the States is a snap. Just say you don't like what the defendant looks like, & you're outa there pronto! ...

Now, stop kicking & screaming, get up off the floor, dust yourself off, & if you're good maybe HB will share his lolly wiff ewww.   ...  ...
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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #301 - May 22nd, 2015 at 10:22am
 
Here in Australia self-defense isn't such a big deal..........yet, but in America self-defense is probably one of the top issues after breathing clean air, to some more so.

They've been around guns since the cradle, so to them the thought of using firearms in self-defense is as natural as lungs for breathing.

With the way people are getting so 'thin-skinned', & so quick to claim they've been offended, social interactions are getting more difficult & violent by the day.

Defending oneself will be an increasing need as the days pass.

How the need expands will depend only on government's ability to suppress it, but just like a balloon being overfilled with air, it will eventually burst.

It's a world wide dilemma.
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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #302 - May 22nd, 2015 at 10:55am
 
Panther wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 10:22am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 10:35pm:
Panther wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 8:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:48pm:
For a supposed ground and pound with mixed martial arts tactics, never mind the fact that the witness is speculating, Zimmerman looks pretty lightly injured.


How lightly injured or not Zimmerman was injured is a matter that the jurors, who were charged with the law by the judge, gave the weight it deserved (required by the law the judge told them they needed to deliberate upon).

The testimony & evidence didn't have to convince anyone but the jurors, who found him not guilty.

Anything else is speculation.



What 12 Floridans?

The jury system is f**ked. It comprises of 12 idiots who can't get out of jury duty.


Awwww, they didn't vote the way you would have ...... Oh well.   http://imgur.com/r7JSQlq.gif

As Mort said, getting out of jury duty in the States is a snap. Just say you don't like what the defendant looks like, & you're outa there pronto! http://imgur.com/hmTTjBe.gif

Now, stop kicking & screaming, get up off the floor, dust yourself off, & if you're good maybe HB will share his lolly wiff ewww.   http://imgur.com/EbcF39J.gif  http://imgur.com/hUXtwbQ.gif




Thats what I'm saying 12 idiots who couldnt even think their way out of jury duty and they are supposed to be peers. Rubbish
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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #303 - May 22nd, 2015 at 10:57am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 10:55am:
Panther wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 10:22am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 10:35pm:
Panther wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 8:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:48pm:
For a supposed ground and pound with mixed martial arts tactics, never mind the fact that the witness is speculating, Zimmerman looks pretty lightly injured.


How lightly injured or not Zimmerman was injured is a matter that the jurors, who were charged with the law by the judge, gave the weight it deserved (required by the law the judge told them they needed to deliberate upon).

The testimony & evidence didn't have to convince anyone but the jurors, who found him not guilty.

Anything else is speculation.



What 12 Floridans?

The jury system is f**ked. It comprises of 12 idiots who can't get out of jury duty.


Awwww, they didn't vote the way you would have ...... Oh well.   http://imgur.com/r7JSQlq.gif

As Mort said, getting out of jury duty in the States is a snap. Just say you don't like what the defendant looks like, & you're outa there pronto! http://imgur.com/hmTTjBe.gif

Now, stop kicking & screaming, get up off the floor, dust yourself off, & if you're good maybe HB will share his lolly wiff ewww.   http://imgur.com/EbcF39J.gif  http://imgur.com/hUXtwbQ.gif




Thats what I'm saying 12 idiots who couldnt even think their way out of jury duty and they are supposed to be peers. Rubbish


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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #304 - May 22nd, 2015 at 10:59am
 
Panther wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 10:57am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 10:55am:
Panther wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 10:22am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 10:35pm:
Panther wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 8:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:48pm:
For a supposed ground and pound with mixed martial arts tactics, never mind the fact that the witness is speculating, Zimmerman looks pretty lightly injured.


How lightly injured or not Zimmerman was injured is a matter that the jurors, who were charged with the law by the judge, gave the weight it deserved (required by the law the judge told them they needed to deliberate upon).

The testimony & evidence didn't have to convince anyone but the jurors, who found him not guilty.

Anything else is speculation.



What 12 Floridans?

The jury system is f**ked. It comprises of 12 idiots who can't get out of jury duty.


Awwww, they didn't vote the way you would have ...... Oh well.   http://imgur.com/r7JSQlq.gif

As Mort said, getting out of jury duty in the States is a snap. Just say you don't like what the defendant looks like, & you're outa there pronto! http://imgur.com/hmTTjBe.gif

Now, stop kicking & screaming, get up off the floor, dust yourself off, & if you're good maybe HB will share his lolly wiff ewww.   http://imgur.com/EbcF39J.gif  http://imgur.com/hUXtwbQ.gif




Thats what I'm saying 12 idiots who couldnt even think their way out of jury duty and they are supposed to be peers. Rubbish


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That is counted as a response. But however contains as many facts/relevancy as every other response you've posted.
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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #305 - May 22nd, 2015 at 11:04am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 10:59am:
Panther wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 10:57am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 10:55am:
Panther wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 10:22am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 10:35pm:
Panther wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 8:21pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 7:48pm:
For a supposed ground and pound with mixed martial arts tactics, never mind the fact that the witness is speculating, Zimmerman looks pretty lightly injured.


How lightly injured or not Zimmerman was injured is a matter that the jurors, who were charged with the law by the judge, gave the weight it deserved (required by the law the judge told them they needed to deliberate upon).

The testimony & evidence didn't have to convince anyone but the jurors, who found him not guilty.

Anything else is speculation.



What 12 Floridans?

The jury system is f**ked. It comprises of 12 idiots who can't get out of jury duty.


Awwww, they didn't vote the way you would have ...... Oh well.   http://imgur.com/r7JSQlq.gif

As Mort said, getting out of jury duty in the States is a snap. Just say you don't like what the defendant looks like, & you're outa there pronto! http://imgur.com/hmTTjBe.gif

Now, stop kicking & screaming, get up off the floor, dust yourself off, & if you're good maybe HB will share his lolly wiff ewww.   http://imgur.com/EbcF39J.gif  http://imgur.com/hUXtwbQ.gif




Thats what I'm saying 12 idiots who couldnt even think their way out of jury duty and they are supposed to be peers. Rubbish


Lips Sealed  to rants  Lips Sealed



That is counted as a response. But however contains as many facts/relevancy as every other response you've posted.

Ewwwwww ...... pot calling the kettle black    ...
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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #306 - May 22nd, 2015 at 12:55pm
 
Panther wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 6:35pm:
|dev|null wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 4:37pm:
We only have Zimmerman's word about what was said.
 

What was said will never be known unless you have a way to wake the dead.

It wasn't important as to the finding of fact demanded by the Court/Florida Legal System.


Ever hear the comment, "the law is an Ass," DRX?   Counts doubly so in the US.

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I still want to know how he managed to be beaten badly and still get a gun out and shoot Martin.   


The very strong desire to live, along with close quarters firearm training  --  readily available in the tens of thousands of gun clubs & firearm training facilities across the 50 United States, coupled with good old American know how (remember Americans are around guns from childhood).   Wink


No training prepares you, I think for the shock of being attacked and physically being beaten DRX.  If he was having his head beaten against the ground as claimed, Zimmerman would have been dazed and hurt.  Sounds to me like he shot Martin after he'd been beaten, fair and square for something racist he'd said.

Zimmerman is well known to the Police, he's had them called on him and his actions numerous times, before and after the Martin case.  Tsk, tsk.   Trust him with a gun?  Nope.   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy
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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #307 - May 22nd, 2015 at 8:31pm
 
Panther wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 10:22am:
Here in Australia self-defense isn't such a big deal..........yet, but in America self-defense is probably one of the top issues after breathing clean air, to some more so.


Self-defence is only an issue in a society where it is required.  In Australia, by and large, it isn't required.  QED.   Roll Eyes


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Reply #308 - May 22nd, 2015 at 8:40pm
 
|dev|null wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 12:55pm:
Panther wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 6:35pm:
|dev|null wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 4:37pm:
We only have Zimmerman's word about what was said.
 

What was said will never be known unless you have a way to wake the dead.

It wasn't important as to the finding of fact demanded by the Court/Florida Legal System.


Ever hear the comment, "the law is an Ass," DRX?   Counts doubly so in the US.


Yes, I've heard it, but nothing you or I do will change the fact that the law is the law, & according to the law he was guilty of no infraction.


|dev|null wrote on May 21st, 2015 at 4:37pm:
I still want to know how he managed to be beaten badly and still get a gun out and shoot Martin.   


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The very strong desire to live, along with close quarters firearm training  --  readily available in the tens of thousands of gun clubs & firearm training facilities across the 50 United States, coupled with good old American know how (remember Americans are around guns from childhood).   Wink


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No training prepares you, I think for the shock of being attacked and physically being beaten DRX.  If he was having his head beaten against the ground as claimed, Zimmerman would have been dazed and hurt.  Sounds to me like he shot Martin after he'd been beaten, fair and square for something racist he'd said.


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Zimmerman is well known to the Police, he's had them called on him and his actions numerous times, before and after the Martin case.  Tsk, tsk.   Trust him with a gun?  Nope.   Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy





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.........He's a free man today, enough said. He will have his guns till his final days unless he's convicted of a felony, goes certifiably insane, or commits & is convicted of spousal abuse.

Trust has nothing to do with it. In the USA if the government doesn't trust you, if your neighbors don't trust you, if the police don't trust you, you can still walk into a gun store, pass a background search, throw down your cash, & walk out with a Glock.

In the USA firearm ownership is an Inalienable Right that can only be lost via extreme circumstances.

In the USA unless you are convicted of the charges I mentioned earlier, any American Citizen can own, carry, & if necessary use just about any firearm they wish to protect themselves.

These Constitutional Second Amendment Rights will not go easily by any means as I've said in earlier posts.

Disarming Americans will be next to almost impossible on a large scale.

The only sure fire way is to change/amend the Constitution, & that process is weighed heavily in the Right holders favour.

Then you are still faced with 100+ million Americans who respect authority to a degree, but the majority will not hand over a single buckshot without shots being fired.




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Re: Disarming USA
Reply #309 - May 22nd, 2015 at 8:42pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 8:31pm:
Panther wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 10:22am:
Here in Australia self-defense isn't such a big deal..........yet, but in America self-defense is probably one of the top issues after breathing clean air, to some more so.


Self-defense is only an issue in a society where it is required.  In Australia, by and large, it isn't required.  QED.   Roll Eyes




I agree to a point.
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Reply #310 - May 23rd, 2015 at 1:04pm
 
Panther wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 8:42pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 8:31pm:
Panther wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 10:22am:
Here in Australia self-defense isn't such a big deal..........yet, but in America self-defense is probably one of the top issues after breathing clean air, to some more so.


Self-defense is only an issue in a society where it is required.  In Australia, by and large, it isn't required.  QED.   Roll Eyes




I agree to a point.


Considering how safe our society is and becoming, with decreasing crime rates, by and large, how can you therefore claim, "yet"?  All the trends are that violent crime is decreasing, DRX.   Therefore one must conclude that self-defence is becoming of decreasing, not increasing importance and will remain so...   Roll Eyes
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Reply #311 - May 23rd, 2015 at 1:20pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 29th, 2013 at 10:34am:
Only an American would suggest schools handing out guns to kids in the name of safety.



Hey! Don't confuse Americans with the insanity that is the NRA.
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Reply #312 - May 23rd, 2015 at 3:11pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 23rd, 2015 at 1:04pm:
Panther wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 8:42pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 8:31pm:
Panther wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 10:22am:
Here in Australia self-defense isn't such a big deal..........yet, but in America self-defense is probably one of the top issues after breathing clean air, to some more so.


Self-defense is only an issue in a society where it is required.  In Australia, by and large, it isn't required.  QED.   Roll Eyes




I agree to a point.


Considering how safe our society is and becoming, with decreasing crime rates, by and large, how can you therefore claim, "yet"?  All the trends are that violent crime is decreasing, DRX.   Therefore one must conclude that self-defence is becoming of decreasing, not increasing importance and will remain so...   Roll Eyes



If you're personally secure Brian, that's all that really matters. Smiley







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Reply #313 - May 23rd, 2015 at 3:28pm
 
Panther wrote on May 23rd, 2015 at 3:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 23rd, 2015 at 1:04pm:
Panther wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 8:42pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 8:31pm:
Panther wrote on May 22nd, 2015 at 10:22am:
Here in Australia self-defense isn't such a big deal..........yet, but in America self-defense is probably one of the top issues after breathing clean air, to some more so.


Self-defense is only an issue in a society where it is required.  In Australia, by and large, it isn't required.  QED.   Roll Eyes




I agree to a point.


Considering how safe our society is and becoming, with decreasing crime rates, by and large, how can you therefore claim, "yet"?  All the trends are that violent crime is decreasing, DRX.   Therefore one must conclude that self-defence is becoming of decreasing, not increasing importance and will remain so...   Roll Eyes



If you're personally secure Brian, that's all that really matters. Smiley


I am as are the overwhelming majority of Australians, DRX.

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Why bother?  I'll go by what the ABS and the Institute of Criminology publish, rather than have Rupert interpret it on my behalf.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #314 - May 23rd, 2015 at 4:11pm
 
Good for you Brian, good for you! ...

It's refreshing to see there are still people, like yourself, out there with absolute conviction. ...
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