Forum

 
  Back to OzPolitic.com   Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register
  Forum Home Album HelpSearch Recent Rules LoginRegister  
 

Pages: 1 2 3 ... 63
Send Topic Print
Disarming USA (Read 87902 times)
It_is_the_Darkness
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 4000
in a ReTardis
Gender: male
Disarming USA
Jun 16th, 2013 at 3:03pm
 
Disarm Americans and let the President be the only one with a Gun...
...so he can shoot the Australian Prime Minister instead. Wink
Back to top
 

SUCKING ON MY TITTIES, LIKE I KNOW YOU WANT TO.
 
IP Logged
 
It_is_the_Darkness
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 4000
in a ReTardis
Gender: male
Re: Disarming USA
Reply #1 - Jun 16th, 2013 at 3:04pm
 
Or maybe its the other way around?
...sort of like the Man who shot the Liberty Valance?
...when we know that in the movie James Stewart's gun went off first Wink
Back to top
 

SUCKING ON MY TITTIES, LIKE I KNOW YOU WANT TO.
 
IP Logged
 
gizmo_2655
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 16010
South West NSW
Gender: male
Re: Disarming USA
Reply #2 - Jun 16th, 2013 at 5:25pm
 
It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jun 16th, 2013 at 3:04pm:
Or maybe its the other way around?
...sort of like the Man who shot the Liberty Valance?
...when we know that in the movie James Stewart's gun went off first Wink


But James Stewart didn't shoot Liberty Valance.
Back to top
 

"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
Bobbythebat
 
IP Logged
 
It_is_the_Darkness
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 4000
in a ReTardis
Gender: male
Re: Disarming USA
Reply #3 - Jun 16th, 2013 at 8:25pm
 
I reckon he did.
If you watch the clip closely - you see that his gun goes off before Waynes and Lee Marvin falls away from Stewart, rather than to the side away from Wayne's shot.

Reckon the character of Wayne was just as pathetic as the Liberty Valance was evil. For only a 'pathetic' man would do himself in like he did because Stewart 'got the girl', etc, etc,
Back to top
 

SUCKING ON MY TITTIES, LIKE I KNOW YOU WANT TO.
 
IP Logged
 
gizmo_2655
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 16010
South West NSW
Gender: male
Re: Disarming USA
Reply #4 - Jun 16th, 2013 at 9:02pm
 
It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Jun 16th, 2013 at 8:25pm:
I reckon he did.
If you watch the clip closely - you see that his gun goes off before Waynes and Lee Marvin falls away from Stewart, rather than to the side away from Wayne's shot.

Reckon the character of Wayne was just as pathetic as the Liberty Valance was evil. For only a 'pathetic' man would do himself in like he did because Stewart 'got the girl', etc, etc,


Sure his gun went off.....but he didn't hit Liberty, that's the whole point to the movie. Jimmy Stewart didn't know how to shoot straight.
Back to top
 

"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
Bobbythebat
 
IP Logged
 
Jeff from Tennessee
New Member
*
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 13
The state of Tennessee, USA
Gender: male
Re: Disarming USA
Reply #5 - Nov 29th, 2013 at 7:43am
 
Gizmo got it right. One of the main points of the movie was Jimmy Stewarts characters political career was built off of an achievement that wasn't really his. (Killing Liberty Valence) Though he didn't know it. Further more, the USA doesn't need to be disarmed. We have way to many laws and regulations about guns already. What would be good is firearms safety training programs in government schools.
Back to top
 

PRO LIBERTATE
Jeff Chandler  
IP Logged
 
freediver
Gold Member
*****
Online


www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 47041
At my desk.
Re: Disarming USA
Reply #6 - Nov 29th, 2013 at 10:34am
 
Only an American would suggest schools handing out guns to kids in the name of safety.
Back to top
 

I identify as Mail because all I do is SendIT!
WWW  
IP Logged
 
FriYAY
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 7395
Re: Disarming USA
Reply #7 - Nov 29th, 2013 at 10:47am
 
freediver wrote on Nov 29th, 2013 at 10:34am:
Only an American would suggest schools handing out guns to kids in the name of safety.


Who suggested that?
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
freediver
Gold Member
*****
Online


www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 47041
At my desk.
Re: Disarming USA
Reply #8 - Nov 29th, 2013 at 6:18pm
 
Jeff from Tennessee wrote on Nov 29th, 2013 at 7:43am:
What would be good is firearms safety training programs in government schools.

Back to top
 

I identify as Mail because all I do is SendIT!
WWW  
IP Logged
 
Jeff from Tennessee
New Member
*
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 13
The state of Tennessee, USA
Gender: male
Re: Disarming USA
Reply #9 - Dec 1st, 2013 at 3:41pm
 
If you want to drive a car without killing other folks on the road, you first need to learn about cars and how to correctly use them. Guns work the same way. Most people that are shot by accident have never been educated about guns. I was trained in gun safety when I was about 6. I started shooting at 10, and got my first rifle at 13. I have never accidently shot anything. By the way, I don't think it's a good idea to give school kids guns.
Back to top
 

PRO LIBERTATE
Jeff Chandler  
IP Logged
 
gizmo_2655
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 16010
South West NSW
Gender: male
Re: Disarming USA
Reply #10 - Dec 1st, 2013 at 3:58pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 29th, 2013 at 6:18pm:
Jeff from Tennessee wrote on Nov 29th, 2013 at 7:43am:
What would be good is firearms safety training programs in government schools.



Not really all that different to Australian schools having Army cadet groups though, is it?
Back to top
 

"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
Bobbythebat
 
IP Logged
 
Jeff from Tennessee
New Member
*
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 13
The state of Tennessee, USA
Gender: male
Re: Disarming USA
Reply #11 - Dec 1st, 2013 at 4:15pm
 
I am not familiar with your cadet programs but in the usa our cadet programs (ROTC) have only honor guard type training where guns are concerned. Their are some explorer type programs that do weapons training but they are more law enforcement based. I was thinking more of a basic firearms safety class for the kids. More like sex ed, not boot camp.
Back to top
 

PRO LIBERTATE
Jeff Chandler  
IP Logged
 
freediver
Gold Member
*****
Online


www.ozpolitic.com

Posts: 47041
At my desk.
Re: Disarming USA
Reply #12 - Dec 1st, 2013 at 4:27pm
 
Jeff from Tennessee wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 3:41pm:
If you want to drive a car without killing other folks on the road, you first need to learn about cars and how to correctly use them. Guns work the same way. Most people that are shot by accident have never been educated about guns. I was trained in gun safety when I was about 6. I started shooting at 10, and got my first rifle at 13. I have never accidently shot anything. By the way, I don't think it's a good idea to give school kids guns.


So you think it would be a good idea to train kids in gun safety, without ever giving them a gun? Do you imagine something like sex education?
Back to top
 

I identify as Mail because all I do is SendIT!
WWW  
IP Logged
 
gizmo_2655
Gold Member
*****
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 16010
South West NSW
Gender: male
Re: Disarming USA
Reply #13 - Dec 1st, 2013 at 4:27pm
 
Jeff from Tennessee wrote on Dec 1st, 2013 at 4:15pm:
I am not familiar with your cadet programs but in the usa our cadet programs (ROTC) have only honor guard type training where guns are concerned. Their are some explorer type programs that do weapons training but they are more law enforcement based. I was thinking more of a basic firearms safety class for the kids. More like sex ed, not boot camp.


Well my brother was in the Cadets in high school, and they did do range days. As I recall, there were even rifles stored in the cadet's store room in the school ( mind you, this was 30+ years ago, so it might be very different now)
Back to top
 

"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
Bobbythebat
 
IP Logged
 
Jeff from Tennessee
New Member
*
Offline


Australian Politics

Posts: 13
The state of Tennessee, USA
Gender: male
Re: Disarming USA
Reply #14 - Dec 1st, 2013 at 4:41pm
 
[quote/]

So you think it would be a good idea to train kids in gun safety, without ever giving them a gun? Do you imagine something like sex education? [/quote]

I think training guns would work fine. If the kids want trigger time they can do that on their own time, with their family. Yes the idea is kind of like sex ed. If the kids want practice they can wait until after school.  Wink
Back to top
 

PRO LIBERTATE
Jeff Chandler  
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 2 3 ... 63
Send Topic Print