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Reply #510 - May 14^th, 2014 at 11:10pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 14^th, 2014 at 7:34pm:

Actually I don't see many sustained muslim protests against western occupation and oppression of muslim lands either.

Muslims generally don't protest it seems - and they don't discriminate on this.

Really??
Western occupation? Apathy.
Terrorist 'misrepresenting' Islam? Apathy.

Cartoons and amateur videos and books - no end to violent, murderous Muslim protests across the globe.

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Reply #511 - May 14^th, 2014 at 11:31pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 14^th, 2014 at 7:41pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 14^th, 2014 at 7:34pm:

Actually I don't see many sustained muslim protests against western occupation and oppression of muslim lands either.

Muslims generally don't protest it seems - and they don't discriminate on this.

http://www.freesoulblog.net/pics/DemocracyGoToHell.jpg

really ?

the magic of Photoshop.

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Muslims want to silence and intimidate you Reply #512 - May 15^th, 2014 at 12:11am Evil looking bvggers in Sydney. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-18/man-refused-bail-over-sydney-protest/42680... And these are just the ones that weren't arrested....
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Reply #514 - May 15^th, 2014 at 12:37pm

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Protest rallies by muslims in the west are few and far between.

As are the Muslims. Coincidence?

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In the muslim lands protests are usually banned.

Unless it is against freedom of speech.

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Thats why the arab spring protests were such a shock to everyone - muslims were doing something they rarely do

What differed was that it went slightly beyond the usual "kill the infidel" rubbish.

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Reply #515 - May 15^th, 2014 at 1:16pm

freediver wrote on May 14^th, 2014 at 8:12pm:

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Muslims generally don't protest it seems - and they don't discriminate on this.

Unless of course it is to undermine freedom of speech. Then you can expect worldwide protests and a few deaths - and more spineless apologetics from the "progressive" Muslims who pretend to support freedom of speech, so long as it costs them nothing.

I can't recall a protest by hindus, buddhists, christians, athiests, agnostics or wiccans for anything.

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Reply #516 - May 15^th, 2014 at 2:21pm

freediver wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 12:37pm:

Unless it is against freedom of speech.

Sloganeering can be fun FD - but it doesn't change the reality that most muslim countries have strict laws against any kind of organised protesting.

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 1:16pm:

I can't recall a protest by hindus, buddhists, christians, athiests, agnostics or wiccans for anything.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #517 - May 15^th, 2014 at 2:52pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 1:16pm:

I can't recall a protest by hindus, buddhists, christians, athiests, agnostics or wiccans for anything.

Buddhists are often protesting for their governments to kill minorities in places like Burma and Sri Lanka:

Sri Lanka's Buddhist monks are intent on war
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1554817/Sri-Lankas-Buddhist-monks-are-...

Anti-Muslim monk stokes Burmese religious tensions
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-23846632

They will even set themselves on fire to prove a point:

Now don't get me started on Hindu nationalist demonstrations in India or sectarian marches in Northern Ireland or anti-abortion protests in the US.

Perhaps I will post this Christian protest though seeing as it targets your kind:

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Reply #519 - May 15^th, 2014 at 6:48pm

Muslims still want to silence and intimidate you.

By killing innocents on western streets, buses, trains, in the name of Allah and Islam, citing Koraniv verrses as justification
By conducting law-fare against free expression, whether in words, cartoons, film or by quoting the Koran while laughing.
Promoting international treaties on making criticism of religion unlawful and punishable
Conflating religion and race and thus pouncing on every critic of Islam as 'racists' and a 'bigot'
Relentless double talk and rape of the language: attempting to present Islamist terrorists as 'liberators' - and who can be against 'liberators. TC promotes Boko Haram as a anti-corruption forces, implying that anyone who is against Boko Haram is for corruption. Calling Islam a religion of peace when a disproportionate number of terror attacks are committed by Muslims in the name of Islam.

Bottom line - Islam will not concede your right in your own western, democratic country, to be openly critical of Islam, Mohammed and people who follow his teachings and practices.

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Reply #520 - May 15^th, 2014 at 8:00pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 28^th, 2013 at 3:55pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on May 28^th, 2013 at 3:23pm:

He had a 6 year old wife who he porked when she was 9, some might consider it break and enter.

We don't know how old she was - contemporary research suggests she was well into her teens when the marriage was consumated. This was discussed at more length in another discussion. I noted your deafening silence when my arguments were put forward to counter your slander.

More generally, Islam strictly prohibits forced marriage - as explicity commanded by the prophet.

moh was in his 50's at that stage. A 50 year old with many wives and sex slaves marries a 6 - 9 year old........... not a good look
the Koran says Aisha was 6 - 9 years old. Or is the koran sort of like the hadiths too ? Believe it when it suits.

islam is full of forced marriages, to this day.

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Reply #521 - May 15^th, 2014 at 8:38pm

Soren wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 6:48pm:

Muslims still want to silence and intimidate you.

By killing innocents on western streets, buses, trains, in the name of Allah and Islam, citing Koraniv verrses as justification
By conducting law-fare against free expression, whether in words, cartoons, film or by quoting the Koran while laughing.
Promoting international treaties on making criticism of religion unlawful and punishable
Conflating religion and race and thus pouncing on every critic of Islam as 'racists' and a 'bigot'
Relentless double talk and rape of the language: attempting to present Islamist terrorists as 'liberators' - and who can be against 'liberators. TC promotes Boko Haram as a anti-corruption forces, implying that anyone who is against Boko Haram is for corruption. Calling Islam a religion of peace when a disproportionate number of terror attacks are committed by Muslims in the name of Islam.

Bottom line - Islam will not concede your right in your own western, democratic country, to be openly critical of Islam, Mohammed and people who follow his teachings and practices.

Always, absolutely, never ever.

Stilts.

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Re: Muslims want to silence and intimidate you
Reply #522 - May 15^th, 2014 at 8:43pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 8:00pm:

Or is the koran sort of like the hadiths too ? Believe it when it suits.

But of course. This is what spiritual texts are for.

Believe when it suits. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

The thing is, you also need to practice. Believe? Oh so easy. Doing?

Much harder.

Believe when it suits, Sprint, and do what thou wilt. This is the jihad of all peoples. When to submit? when to struggle? When to give and take?

This doubt, habibi, is what we all share as humans.

Gud is great, no?

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Re: Muslims want to silence and intimidate you
Reply #523 - May 15^th, 2014 at 9:26pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 2:21pm:

freediver wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 12:37pm:

Unless it is against freedom of speech.

Sloganeering can be fun FD - but it doesn't change the reality that most muslim countries have strict laws against any kind of organised protesting.

Nor does it change the fact that you are incapable of explaining away the contradictions in your own statements, pretending to support freedom of speech. You just wait for the topic to go away, then jump back in when some other issue pops up.

Would it be reasonable to conclude from your behaviour that when self identified "progressive" Muslims claim to support freedom of speech, they should not be trusted?

freediver wrote on May 10^th, 2014 at 10:17am:

That seems to be it. I'll elaborate for you. You offer your limp wristed support for freedom of speech when it costs nothing. You wave the white flag to your fellow Muslims if there is going to be any cost at all. And in realistic scenarios you support censorship, but you only talk about it in a limited and carefully selected set of contexts where you can make yourself look normal. You have spent the rest of the thread offering excuse after excuse for why you cannot possibly reveal the extent of your support for censorship, often invoking trickery on my part.

freediver wrote on May 13^th, 2014 at 7:20pm:

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I don't support censorship in the interests of pandering to those who threaten violence.

Yet you have stood by your original claim that you do, albeit trying to blame it on some kind of trickery on my part. Or are you merely saying you support censorship in this context, but for different reasons?

Is this some kind of infidel trickery Gandalf? Am I cynically using wishy washy western liberal morals to attack Islam?

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Reply #524 - May 15^th, 2014 at 9:29pm

True Colours wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 2:52pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 1:16pm:

I can't recall a protest by hindus, buddhists, christians, athiests, agnostics or wiccans for anything.

Buddhists are often protesting for their governments to kill minorities in places like Burma and Sri Lanka:

Sri Lanka's Buddhist monks are intent on war
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1554817/Sri-Lankas-Buddhist-monks-are-...

Anti-Muslim monk stokes Burmese religious tensions
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-23846632

http://www.manitobabuddhistchurch.org/blog_files/page114_blog_entry32_1.jpg

http://www.irrawaddy.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/7.-OIC.jpg

http://www.generationaldynamics.com/ww2010/g130630b.jpg

They will even set themselves on fire to prove a point:

http://i.imgur.com/w0m8yGM.jpg

http://cdnd.asiancorrespondent.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/SriLankaMonkSuicid...

Now don't get me started on Hindu nationalist demonstrations in India or sectarian marches in Northern Ireland or anti-abortion protests in the US.

Perhaps I will post this Christian protest though seeing as it targets your kind:

http://soundandmotionmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/westboro-baptist.jpg

Muslims fly planes into buildings. Monks set themselves (and only themselves) on fire.

And TC still cannot see the difference.

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