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More than likely,  that young girl will be in a very distressed state today.

He should be protecting the youths regardless of colour.

 Since the beginning of the game players have been heckled. 99.9% of them turn a deaf ear.

As Goodes has requested the young girl to apologise, I think she should phone him and tell to stop being a prissy princess and to get over himself.

So now every person who has the slightest shade of colour must be greatly offended whether they really are or not.

Amadd wrote on May 24^th, 2013 at 10:54pm:



They would, if they were the ones being interviewed.  The media just cross to footy identity afetr footy identity, who read the script - they have to - their livelihood as a public figure depends on it. 

"yeah I'm abaoslutely shocked.  Adam handled it like a true champion"

meanwhile, everyone listening is thinking "dam really?  Having a gigantic sook about what a 13 year old girl says is "handling it like a true champion?  Did we expect him to jump into the crowd and smash her, Eric Cantona style?

All in all, a crappy time for her to say anything at all against an aboriginal player, but let's not pretend worse is said at every game to any player within earshot, or that he doesn't actually resemble an ape.

If I was a cynic I would say Goodes was after a Nicky Winmar moment.....Nah surely not???

"Goodes announced on Twitter about an hour and a half later that the girl had been in touch.

Just received a phone call from a young girl apologizing for her actions. Lets support her please

— Adam Goodes (@adamroy37)

The incident, which took place in the opening match of the AFL's Indigenous Round, soured the Swans' win against an often insipid Magpies outfit.

In a drought-breaking victory for the Swans it was their first win over the Magpies at the MCG since 2000.

The two-time premiership winner was visibly shaken and left the field before the full-time siren in a win that saw him reach a milestone 400 goals in senior footy.

"I had to leave the arena. It just broke my heart," Goodes said.

'I don't put any blame on her'

The two-time Brownlow Medallist was adamant that he was sure the girl did not understand the implications of what she said.

The 16-season stalwart has received an outpouring of support on social media from players and fans alike, but said the girl at the centre of the storm deserves just as much support.

"I've had fantastic support over the past 24 hours," Goodes said.

"I just hope that people give the 13 year old girl the same sort of support because she needs it, her family needs it, and the people around them need it.

"It's not a witch-hunt, I don't want people to go after this young girl.

"We've just got to help educate society better so it doesn't happen again."

Goodes said that Victoria Police asked if he would like to press charges but he declined, reiterating that the girl needs to learn why her abuse was hurtful.

"It's not her fault, she's 13, she's still so innocent, I don't put any blame on her," he said.
"



http://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl/news/article/-/17323036/adam-goodes-gutted-by-rac...





Wow .

I bet you feel like a dick today amadd.

Looks like this Goodes character is showing a lot of character.

He's done everything you said he should do.

Protect the girl.

Support her.

Make sure she's not victimized.




Do you wanna review your initial reaction?

darkhall



B$%#sh^$t

He 100% put blame on her the moment he stood there looking at her, so he cant go back from there now.

He behaved like a little girl younger than the one who yelled out something he didnt like!

I regularly call one of my golfing mates a 'gorilla'.... and he is a big, fat white prick.

Id never heard of the guy also.

Aussie rules is something I have absolutely no interest in.

But I admire the way he's handled it.


No matter what you think, "ape" or monkey" said to a dark skinned person is racial abuse.





He was right to be offended.

He was right to immediately call attention to it.




He was magnanimous and noble in his response to the girl afterwards.








But that wont mean  a thing to you lot.

darkhall67 wrote on May 26^th, 2013 at 7:45pm:



Crap.

1. He doesn't look that dark to me.

2. He looks like an ape.

3.



What a pathetic loser that footballer is.

I suggest he find a new line of work if he can't handle jeers from the crowd.

darkhall67 wrote on May 26^th, 2013 at 7:45pm:



Yes, he realised it was a fairly innocuous comment coming from a young girl and subsequently acted like a man, ignored it, and got on with the job he's paid to do.

Oh, hang on ...

Alinta wrote on May 26^th, 2013 at 8:45pm:


bugger off.  He hardly looks specifically aboriginal!  He looks like a big, hairy, last shaken out of the tree.....umm.......err.......ape, just like my white golf mate looks like, and hits the ball like, a gorilla, and I tell him so.  He reckons I am..............well........let's not go there.

Alinta wrote on May 26^th, 2013 at 8:45pm:


Really? Racial?

How so?

Race wasn't even mentioned.

Skin colour wasn't even mentioned.

Nationality wasn't mentioned.

He was called an 'ape', and guess what ... he looks like an ape.

Please explain how 'ape' is racial abuse.

Doctor Jolly wrote on May 27^th, 2013 at 1:26pm:



I think you've got that back to front, actually.

It's the bogans who seem to know who this guy is.

Let's face it, the percentage of bogans in a football crowd is pretty high.

This guy is just another pathetic attention seeker looking for some sympathy from the fans.  AFL football is full of them.    Laying on the ground, writhing in pain.  Oh, please ... grow a set you "guys".  Pathetic sooks.

Doctor Jolly wrote on May 27^th, 2013 at 2:33pm:



In my world, knowing the names of second rate sports people in second rate sports is not important.

In fact, I can't think of anything less important.

Doctor Jolly wrote on May 27^th, 2013 at 4:05pm:



I seriously doubt that.

Half the people in my office had never heard of him before his little sook fest.

While I agree that AFL is an important part of some people's lives, it certainly isn't important to everyone.

I've heard of Barry Cable, Stan Nowotny, and that Ben Cousins fellow.  However, I'd never seen nor heard of this Goodes fellow before.

Some things in life are just more important.

And, as I've said, I can't really think of anything less important than knowing the names of second rate sports people in second rate sports.

"And, as I've said, I can't really think of anything less important than knowing the names of second rate sports people in second rate sports."

I'm curious Gregg........what sport/s rate highly in your  opinion?????

Adam Goodes is a great player who has handled himself with diplomacy and grace since outing the 13 year old girl.....racism is unacceptable not only in sport but in any forum.....I do however believe to much is being made of this!!!



Everyone is a prisoner of his own experiences. No one can eliminate prejudices - just recognize them.
Edward R. Murrow (1908 - 1965), television broadcast, December 31, 1955

greggerypeccary wrote on May 27^th, 2013 at 6:17pm:



Grand Slam tennis...yep, me too

........and AFL.....

I don't think it's racist.  Everyone looks like some sort of animal, and Goodesys "totem animal" just happens to be some sort of ape.  Mine is a donkey - is that better or worse?

philperth2010 wrote on May 27^th, 2013 at 7:35pm:



Nope. 

Do you?

If so, why?

... wrote on May 27^th, 2013 at 7:52pm:



Long pointy ears, or ... ?

Amadd wrote on May 27^th, 2013 at 8:29pm:



Well spotted.  It's good to know I'm not the only one with the gift of seeing which animal people look like.

I've never heard of this "Goodsy" guy. Then again, I don't watch AFL.

I thought he looked Greek.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 28^th, 2013 at 11:59am:



Sometimes I'm staggered by the level of ignorance some people have.

You dont have to watch AFL to know the top half dozen influential players.  I could name the top half dozen of all mainstream sports in Australia ranging from AFL, NRL, to golf and tennis.

I can also recite Don bradmans test average.

Maybe I'm more Australian than others. John Howard would be proud of me, turning in his grave for you numpties.

Doctor Jolly wrote on May 28^th, 2013 at 10:20am:



No, not a lesbian but I certainly do love women.  I especially enjoy women's tennis: all that grunting and bouncing.  Mmmm   

However, if you think watching a few dozen sweaty men in tight footy shorts running around an oval is a "masculine pastime", good luck to you.

Sounds to me like you might be suppressing some homoerotic tendencies though.

FriYAY wrote on May 28^th, 2013 at 12:29pm:


You're a dam loop 

FriYAY wrote on May 28^th, 2013 at 12:29pm:



Correct.

It's a term used to insult people of all nationalities and skin colours.

One can insult a black person without being racist.

Calling a black person an 'idiot' is certainly not racist, just as calling them an 'ape' is not racist.

Some people, however, seem to think that any criticism of a black person is racism.

Absolute fools.

FriYAY wrote on May 28^th, 2013 at 12:29pm:


Good call.

This should help in explaining why "ape" is racial abuse.........and why Adam Goodes and the AFL community acted in the way they have. Some disagree with the course of action and I'm not expecting your change of opinion. It is simply to inform............as Adam did when he talked with the young girl who didn't know. 


"Darwin and his contention that certain blacks had characteristics of apes.
The argument about what he meant goes back and forth over whether he was a racist or not, but there was a longstanding contention that some blacks, being in the same geographical area as apes, and having strikingly different features from whites, may have evolved from apes. Just the blacks. It was scientific theory that was furthered by the general ignorance and convenience to proponents of the theory of the lowly condition of blacks in America in Darwin's time.

Over the years it has been convenient for some to associate the imagery of the primitive ape with blacks in their put-downs and attacks. I've experienced this in the workplace and it got pretty heavy for a time. Ape images were left in my workspace, ape dolls. I was called 'king #$%$ in grade-school for over a year by my classmates (2 non-whites in the entire school).

But, those who've never been on the receiving end seem to have a hard time seeing the insult in the association. The implication to me is that I'm less than human than them. It's meant to divide and hurt."

darkhall67 wrote on May 28^th, 2013 at 2:50pm:



It's an explanation: I'll give you that.

Not a good one though.

If people continue to play the racist card like this, it's only going to make things worse for the aboriginal people.

Damn...timed my explanation a minute or so early and the page changed....

Non sequitur


Non sequitur

Non sequitur

greggerypeccary wrote on May 28^th, 2013 at 4:10pm:



Did you watch that blind Ape Gurrumul on the voice last night?

Amadd wrote on May 28^th, 2013 at 4:55pm:


Gurrumul looks more like a toad.  Is that racist?

... wrote on May 28^th, 2013 at 7:12pm:


I'll pay that one.

I think if he smiled he'd crack his face.
Delta was far more interesting to look at...and listen to. She looks like a Goddess..is that racist?

Well, seriously, they were both great. A really nice performance 

Delta needs to stop trying so hard.

Gurrumul has a beautiful voice.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 11:26am:


Fair comment...........I'm in Melbourne, a Swans Club member and a fan of many sports. That said, I doubt I would recognise names of rugby or soccer players simply because I'm not interested in the sport and Melb sports media is AFL crazy.

.....and I also think Adam looks more Greek than indigenous....

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 11:26am:



I'm agreeing 100% with Mistie today.

I usually switch off or over when AFL comes on the TV.

The WA media usually concentrates on WA teams though: I know what Nick Natta Wotty (or whatever his name is) does every minute of the day but have no idea who that Greek guy Adam Goodes is.

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 12:23pm:


Thats a narrow minded view of the world which explains your extreme view. You probably switch off whenever you hear a viewpoint counter to your own.

Doctor Jolly wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 12:35pm:


No, it's not.  I've played football and I've been to WAFL, VFL, and AFL matches.  I simply don't like watching AFL.

And, I don't have an "extreme view".

I don't like AFL: that's all.  I don't want it banned; I don't tell other people not to watch it; I don't care if they put it on TV 24 hours a day.  I don't like it and I don't watch it: nothing extreme about that.


Doctor Jolly wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 12:35pm:


No, quite the contrary.

I enjoy hearing viewpoints counter to my own.

Is this racist?

darkhall67 wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 1:46pm:


So is this racist or not?

Alinta wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 1:12pm:


If she didn't realise it was a racial slur, then she obviously used it in another context.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 2:16pm:



Yep.  Or, putting a thought in someone else's head.

When do 13 year olds know what they are saying? They are on step up from little kids. They just spurt things out. Absolutely disgraceful. Australia is turning into a fascist state. I hope it doesn't damage her and her future.

darkhall67 wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 3:53pm:



ah so it's one rule for blacks and one rule for honkies.

Sounds racist.  Go join the KKK, adolf.

darkhall67 wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 4:31pm:



Says who?

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 4:43pm:






Anyone with more than a miniscule knowledge of history.

Big Dave wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 3:44pm:


No Australia WAS a racist state, we're gradually rolling back from that, because being a racist state makes the state an International pariah, that everybody embargoes. Plus it creates unbelievable tensions within the state itself. Not one good thing ever came from racisim, it's not the default position as some here seem to think. A zero tolerance to racism is a very good thing, tough on kids who've been brought up loaded with that baggage, but there you go.   

philperth2010 wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 5:49pm:


Do you know who Eddie is?

Bwahaha... Eddie Eddie Eddie 

Big Dave wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 6:50pm:


Well do you want to be better than the racist Indians, Arabs, Blacks, Yellows or not?

greggerypeccary wrote on May 29^th, 2013 at 4:43pm:


This from the person who doesnt know who Adam Goodes, Delta or Eddie McGuire are.

"The AFL and McGuire have been tireless in their pursuit of the end of racism and the inclusion of all races and religions."

Yep, makes Ed's comment all the more bewildering to me even taking into account brain fade and fatigue.