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Will Rudd finally challenge?
May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:09pm

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/rudd-set-to-challenge-again-pyne...

Senior Liberal frontbencher Christopher Pyne says a Labor source has told him Kevin Rudd will again challenge for the leadership in June.

Mr Rudd this week revealed he now supports gay marriage, having voted against it in parliament in 2012.

Mr Pyne told ABC radio on Wednesday the change of stance on gay marriage was a signal Mr Rudd intended to challenge Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

"My information from within the inside of the Labor Party is that (a challenge) is planned for June 3rd ... or the week of June 3rd," Mr Pyne said.

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He said the same source had told him about Mr Rudd's change of heart on gay marriage two days before the former Labor leader went public in an essay on his blog.

Mr Pyne said Mr Rudd also planned to make another "interesting statement" on policy within the next two weeks, before launching his challenge.

He said he knew the topic of the statement, but would not reveal it.

On Tuesday, Mr Rudd rejected suggestions his new position on gay marriage had anything to do with the leadership.

Labor frontbencher Mark Butler said Mr Pyne's claim was "complete garbage".

"I have heard no such thing," Mr Butler said.

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Fit of Absent Mindeness Gold Member Offline We need more fits of absent mindedness Posts: 1622 Brisbane Gender:	Re: Will Rudd finally challenge? Reply #1 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:17pm Won't happen - Rudd isn't interested (if more than half the party don't support him then why would he be?) The alp will go to the election with Julia (for better or worse).
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Reply #2 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 9:32pm

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Senior Liberal frontbencher Christopher Pyne says a Labor source has told him ...

"My information from within the inside of the Labor Party is ...

He said the same source had told him ...

Mr Pyne said Mr Rudd also planned to make another "interesting statement" on policy within the next two weeks, before launching his challenge.

He said he knew the topic of the statement, but would not reveal it

It is a truely indicative sign of the decline in journalistic standards in this country - that this

powdered fop

is given the air and print space that he is, to live out his fantasies

DOUBTLESS, any REAL intended "leak" from within Labor would go through someone a little more believable than

Christopher Pyne

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woof woof Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1518 Gender:	Re: Will Rudd finally challenge? Reply #3 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 9:33pm Rudd couldn't run a warm bath
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Will Rudd finally challenge? Reply #4 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 9:34pm woof woof wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 9:33pm: Rudd couldn't run a warm bath and yet maqqa keeps dreaming about him.
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Lobo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7407 Sydney Gender:	Re: Will Rudd finally challenge? Reply #5 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 9:46pm Is it just coincidence that when Abbott drops a couple of points in the polls Pyne or one of the other poodles trots out the "Rudd Challenge" furphy???
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Re: Will Rudd finally challenge?
Reply #6 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 9:50pm

Makka wrote on May 22^nd, 2013 at 8:09pm:

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/rudd-set-to-challenge-again-pyne...

Senior Liberal frontbencher Christopher Pyne says a Labor source has told him Kevin Rudd will again challenge for the leadership in June.

Mr Rudd this week revealed he now supports gay marriage, having voted against it in parliament in 2012.

Mr Pyne told ABC radio on Wednesday the change of stance on gay marriage was a signal Mr Rudd intended to challenge Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

"My information from within the inside of the Labor Party is that (a challenge) is planned for June 3rd ... or the week of June 3rd," Mr Pyne said.

He said the same source had told him about Mr Rudd's change of heart on gay marriage two days before the former Labor leader went public in an essay on his blog.

Mr Pyne said Mr Rudd also planned to make another "interesting statement" on policy within the next two weeks, before launching his challenge.

He said he knew the topic of the statement, but would not reveal it.

On Tuesday, Mr Rudd rejected suggestions his new position on gay marriage had anything to do with the leadership.

Labor frontbencher Mark Butler said Mr Pyne's claim was "complete garbage".

"I have heard no such thing," Mr Butler said.

What crap....If Chrissy Pyne knew Rudd was going to support Gay marriage he would have been telling everyone who would listen and linking it to a challenge.....Pyne is only fooling himself!!!

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http://www.independentaustralia.net/2013/politics/unnamed-sources-and-democracy/

The media has been completely happy with fake whistleblowers, helping them, for example, churn out endless fake “Rudd challenge” stories, with no more effort than pushing a programmed function key on a keyboard. But the media have treated with contempt those ultimate real whistleblowers: Assange and Manning. Their stories needed investigation, work, writing, and – more scarily – would actually involve speaking truth to power. A function once primary for journalists, but apparently no longer — at least not for the Fourth Estate.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61096 Here Gender:	Re: Will Rudd finally challenge? Reply #7 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 10:43pm Libs like to whip a dead horse
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61096 Here Gender:	Re: Will Rudd finally challenge? Reply #8 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 10:45pm This puts the question: Is Pyne even less honest than Abbott?
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RightSadFred Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2220 Gender:	Re: Will Rudd finally challenge? Reply #9 - May 22^nd, 2013 at 10:52pm Makka There are two boxes you need to tick on Rudd Does the ALP want him back as PM ? Does the country ? If he was to challenge you would need to tick those two boxes. I don't think Rudd is interested in just Damage control, he would only do it if there was a chance he would win.
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Peter Freedman Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5275 Wellington Gender:	Re: Will Rudd finally challenge? Reply #10 - May 23^rd, 2013 at 4:57am The story is what journos call a "beat up". Must be a slow news day.
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Reply #11 - May 23^rd, 2013 at 6:42am

so no one thinks its odd rudd come out of the blue and announces he has had a revelation about gay marriage...Rome could be burning and he talks about gay marriage...how that could possibly make him PM material I have no idea......if anything its the left that are desperate to take the attention of swan and gillard...bring out good old Kev he always gets the headlines when we are desperate to get out of the headlines... Roll Eyes

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Reply #12 - May 23^rd, 2013 at 7:13am

Peter Freedman wrote on May 23^rd, 2013 at 4:57am:

The story is what journos call a "beat up".

Must be a slow news day.

Peter Freedman

Most of what journo's produce are beat ups.

Given the ALP polling ...... this is in no way a beat up at all, the ALP leadership is front and centre.

The ALP in the background are not in good shape, there are many who want Rudd back in, but I doubt Rudd does (he might) and I doubt right now he is close on numbers. This issue will get bigger and bigger and I think Rudd wants the ALP to beg him to come back.

Not sure if that means they want Rudd back, but most accept they can not win with Gillard leading the party, so yes the leadership question is very important. Gillard the the main reason Abbott will probably be our next PM. A better ALP leader would have seen the Libs panic and replace Abbott.

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Re: Will Rudd finally challenge?
Reply #13 - May 23^rd, 2013 at 7:15am

cods wrote on May 23^rd, 2013 at 6:42am:

so no one thinks its odd rudd come out of the blue and announces he has had a revelation about gay marriage...Rome could be burning and he talks about gay marriage...how that could possibly make him PM material I have no idea......if anything its the left that are desperate to take the attention of swan and gillard...bring out good old Kev he always gets the headlines when we are desperate to get out of the headlines... Roll Eyes

cods

No doubt Rudd is fishing for a polpularist angle to improve his public appeal, this is how this guy operates.

It is obviously a "its all about me" strategy.

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 37217 Gender:	Re: Will Rudd finally challenge? Reply #14 - May 23^rd, 2013 at 7:16am ruddy wont challenge. he's just doing his best to turn september 14 from a disaster to and absolute smacking catastrophe. hell hath no fury like an "overweight egocentric career politician from qld" scorned
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