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Reply #45 - May 19th, 2013 at 5:57pm
 
mainstream postracial black american conservative (chard) versus radical, white, anti-white racist (grey)

whoever wins, we all lose
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Reply #46 - May 19th, 2013 at 6:47pm
 
JC Denton wrote on May 19th, 2013 at 5:57pm:
mainstream postracial black american conservative


This guy gets it.

Just remember conservative ≠ republican and it's all good.
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Reply #47 - May 19th, 2013 at 6:53pm
 
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That said, it's ok if you disagree with me.  You still my black person, Grey.


You need some good ol'American Wild West culture. The bad guys run the saloon and the girls, they're rustlin' an' bank robin' and pretty soon they're drivin' out the ranchers and miners and buyin' the whole range. Killing folk too.

Then a medium size stranger rides into town and sorts them all out with his pacifist ways. Yeah right  Grin

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Reply #48 - May 19th, 2013 at 6:57pm
 
JC Denton wrote on May 19th, 2013 at 5:57pm:
mainstream postracial black american conservative (chard) versus radical, white, anti-white racist (grey)

whoever wins, we all lose



This guy's speaking for everybody. I've told him about that. Happens again i'll be wiping his trouble off my boots. Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #49 - May 19th, 2013 at 7:01pm
 
Grey wrote on May 19th, 2013 at 6:57pm:
JC Denton wrote on May 19th, 2013 at 5:57pm:
mainstream postracial black american conservative (chard) versus radical, white, anti-white racist (grey)

whoever wins, we all lose



This guy's speaking for everybody. I've told him about that. Happens again i'll be wiping his trouble off my boots. Grin Grin Grin


gotta love how you dont even try to deny it
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Reply #50 - May 19th, 2013 at 7:27pm
 
PARANOIA ........be more concerned about Islam than Germany or Japan.........

Grey you're really a pathetic tale-teller.......battalions of anarchists keeping the baddies in check....ya bloody idiot......
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Reply #51 - May 19th, 2013 at 8:56pm
 
Chard wrote on May 19th, 2013 at 4:18pm:
Charmichel?  Are you shitting me? That man is a prime example of what I'm talking about. THe man was every bit as racist any Klansman and once he started advocating violent radicalism he did more damage to civil rights than he ever helped it.


That's wrong and sad coming from a black man. He may have become bitter in his latter years, but Stokely was a great man, an eloquent writer and a gifted orator. He stuck his neck out so that you would have a life. I read his writing and I heard him speak in London. I didn't hear a thing that threatened me or sounded less than intelligent.

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Reply #52 - May 19th, 2013 at 9:01pm
 
Socrates wrote on May 19th, 2013 at 7:27pm:
PARANOIA ........be more concerned about Islam than Germany or Japan.........

Grey you're really a pathetic tale-teller.......battalions of anarchists keeping the baddies in check....ya bloody idiot......


You assert, I provide evidence, Haven't you been dismissed already?
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Reply #53 - May 19th, 2013 at 9:24pm
 
Grey wrote on May 19th, 2013 at 8:56pm:
Chard wrote on May 19th, 2013 at 4:18pm:
Charmichel?  Are you shitting me? That man is a prime example of what I'm talking about. THe man was every bit as racist any Klansman and once he started advocating violent radicalism he did more damage to civil rights than he ever helped it.


That's wrong and sad coming from a black man. He may have become bitter in his latter years, but Stokely was a great man, an eloquent writer and a gifted orator.


All of which is true up until the point he lost his sh*t and actively pursued an agenda ever bit as racist as the status quo he initially sought to change.


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He stuck his neck out so that you would have a life.


When he was working for King this is true. When he crossed the line into advocating violence based on race himself and stated to think of himself as the black Che Guevara he working for himself and not for racial equality.


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I read his writing and I heard him speak in London. I didn't hear a thing that threatened me or sounded less than intelligent.


Yeah, he calmed down a bit once he figured out that no one really gave a sh*t anymore. At that point he became a curiosity, a relic of an era of US history that he ultimately became nothing more than a minor footnote in. You can tell yourself he's a great man or a shining paragon of civil rights, but he's just another head-lodged-firmly-up-his-own-ass failed wannabe revolutionary only remembered by history geeks and old guys pining for a time when their ideals were still relevant.
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Reply #54 - May 20th, 2013 at 2:10pm
 
Chard wrote on May 19th, 2013 at 9:24pm:
Grey wrote on May 19th, 2013 at 8:56pm:
Chard wrote on May 19th, 2013 at 4:18pm:
Charmichel?  Are you shitting me? That man is a prime example of what I'm talking about. THe man was every bit as racist any Klansman and once he started advocating violent radicalism he did more damage to civil rights than he ever helped it.


That's wrong and sad coming from a black man. He may have become bitter in his latter years, but Stokely was a great man, an eloquent writer and a gifted orator.


All of which is true up until the point he lost his sh*t and actively pursued an agenda ever bit as racist as the status quo he initially sought to change.


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He stuck his neck out so that you would have a life.


When he was working for King this is true. When he crossed the line into advocating violence based on race himself and stated to think of himself as the black Che Guevara he working for himself and not for racial equality.


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I read his writing and I heard him speak in London. I didn't hear a thing that threatened me or sounded less than intelligent.


Yeah, he calmed down a bit once he figured out that no one really gave a sh*t anymore. At that point he became a curiosity, a relic of an era of US history that he ultimately became nothing more than a minor footnote in. You can tell yourself he's a great man or a shining paragon of civil rights, but he's just another head-lodged-firmly-up-his-own-ass failed wannabe revolutionary only remembered by history geeks and old guys pining for a time when their ideals were still relevant.


I don't want to get in an argument about one guy.
But I'm buggered if you're going to get the last word.

He wasn't racist, he simply didn't want white activists in the black movement. He thought it worked better for them to work against racism in their own community. I agree with that. You let White deal with white racism and Black to deal with black racism. Good system.

It's alright, you don't have to be as tough on the issue  Grin Yeh big softie.
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Reply #57 - May 21st, 2013 at 1:09pm
 
Grey wrote on May 20th, 2013 at 2:10pm:
I don't want to get in an argument about one guy. But I'm buggered if you're going to get the last word.


Yes, old Greywalker... Give in to your hatred, it makes you powerful... BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


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He wasn't racist, he simply didn't want white activists in the black movement.


He advocated the use of violence against people solely because of differences in skin color.  If Charmichel isn't racist then I submit that former CSA Lieutenant General Nathan Bedford Forrest was not a racist either.


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He thought it worked better for them to work against racism in their own community by promoting violence against whites.


There, fixed to better reflect reality.


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I agree with that.


Of course you agree. You believe it's justified to use violence on others simply because of political differences just like Charmichel believed it was justifiable to do so against others based on race.


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You let White deal with white racism and Black to deal with black racism.


And that would be find if not for Charmichel's support of ethnic violence.


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It's alright, you don't have to be as tough on the issue  Grin Yeh big softie.


Dude, you talk a good game, but let's face facts. The real reason you support this crap is because you're yet another tail-end baby boomer that was to young to be a part real part of the various social movements of the 60s. Now you're an old guy, probably either still in or coming to the crash point of a midlife crisis, and you're desperate for something, any thing, that will keep you from fading into obscurity with all the other left overs of movements that moved on without you.

Not trying to be mean here, Grey.  I'm just sayin'.
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Reply #58 - May 21st, 2013 at 6:30pm
 
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Of course you agree. You believe it's justified to use violence on others simply because of political differences just like Charmichel believed it was justifiable to do so against others based on race.



Nothing succeeds like exaggeration and putting words into mouths they never exited from.

No, no wait, I mean nothing sucks like...

I don't believe you should use violence on people who hold political differences. I think you should not. I think political violence and religious violence, which is much the same thing, are mankinds biggest problem.

These are the people I root for,

http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2008/s2167985.htm

the common people who don't want to be rulers or 'powerful', people who just want to live ordinary lives and raise kids in peace and security. People who don't care whether their neighbour is black or white, Jewish or Muslim, people who say no to the politics of division. People who only care about whether their neighbour is reaonable and hygenic and doesn't melt down during discussions on the new fence.

And when gangs come along who try, with their hate filled misphilosophies to divide those communities, using violence when they think they can get away with it, they'll be resisted. Anarchists will resist them.

We'll resist them because we are the opposite. We want a political structure that's open all the time to different opinions. Where ideas are talked about and acted on without being corrupted by deal making between gangs. We want a political structure that's free of racism and sexism and coercion. It's what makes us Anarchists and what makes us different to Socialists, Conservatives, Communists,  nazis, KKK's zionists, bolsheviks, shineing path guerillas and smacking polpot.

What you hide behind with your cringeworthy adherence to Mummy boy law, is what Nazis use. That while they don't break the law they should be allowed space. But they do break the law. You know it, I know it, they will do 'black ops' like beating and old white man or raping a white woman and stitching up the black man. Or they'll firebomb, or kick to death, and run away, and they wont confess in legalise to doing these things, but they will make it clear in their rhetoric that it was them, done with their approval. Because that's the point. That's the point of wearing a uniform, it's a threat. You know it, I know it, stop pretending. 

Anarchists don't stand for violence, they stand against it.
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Reply #59 - May 21st, 2013 at 7:08pm
 
And while we're at it, got any evidence of what you're saying about carmichael? I mean I could be wrong, I'm not his official biographer or anything, but it's news to me that he was a racist.

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Dude, you talk a good game, but let's face facts. The real reason you support this crap is because you're yet another tail-end baby boomer that was to young to be a part real part of the various social movements of the 60s. Now you're an old guy, probably either still in or coming to the crash point of a midlife crisis, and you're desperate for something, any thing, that will keep you from fading into obscurity with all the other left overs of movements that moved on without you.


What are you trying to do, start some new bigotry against old or nearly old white guys? I was there in the sixties. In SixtyEight I was 18, the maths are easy. Now you know something, before you knew nothing. But you still don't know a thing worth knowing before you can set up as my judge. But carry on, it really says more about you than me.
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