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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40816 Gender:	would you follow a murderer ? May 10^th, 2013 at 11:46pm I wouldn't
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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 43392	Re: would you follow a murderer ? Reply #1 - May 10^th, 2013 at 11:48pm Here folks we have a perfect example of extremism. Sprintcyclist in action.
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26515 Australia	Re: would you follow a murderer ? Reply #2 - May 11^th, 2013 at 4:47am Not sure what you mean. You mean you see them murder someone and follow them by walking behind them or hiding in bushes? Otherwise how would you know they are a murderer? SOB
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: would you follow a murderer ? Reply #3 - May 12^th, 2013 at 7:20am If you keep behind a murderer, more chance of avoiding his/her bullets or blade. In front, you are more likely his/her next victim.
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Chard Gold Member Offline Mein Führer! I can walk! Posts: 1077 Alabama, USA Gender:	Re: would you follow a murderer ? Reply #4 - May 13^th, 2013 at 10:34pm Sprintcyclist wrote on May 10^th, 2013 at 11:46pm: I wouldn't I'll bite, why wouldn't you follow a murderer and are you talking about primary actors or are you including secondary actors as well?
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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: would you follow a murderer ? Reply #5 - May 13^th, 2013 at 10:37pm I wouldn't not follow someone just because they're a murderer. What is this?
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Re: would you follow a murderer ?
Reply #6 - May 14^th, 2013 at 12:20am

... wrote on May 13^th, 2013 at 10:37pm:

I wouldn't not follow someone just because they're a murderer. What is this?

Depending on how you define "murderers" I work for an institution that's really damn good at it. Then again, it's not like it really bothers me in any way. The pay is nice and the benefits are outstanding.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26515 Australia	Re: would you follow a murderer ? Reply #7 - May 14^th, 2013 at 4:21am Sprint - come and explain! SOB
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Reply #8 - May 14^th, 2013 at 9:29am

Chard wrote on May 14^th, 2013 at 12:20am:

Depending on how you define "murderers" I work for an institution that's really damn good at it. Then again, it's not like it really bothers me in any way. The pay is nice and the benefits are outstanding.

US military?

FBI?

CIA?

US Government as a whole?

I wouldn't suggest they're really good at Murder. Prolific perhaps but they do tend to, "use a sledgehammer to crack a walnut," don't they? Grin

A.A.Milne (of "Winne the Pooh" fame) pointed out, "the bomber pilot must answer for each individual bomb he drops..." (or words to that effect). Murder? Not necessarily, if committed as by a military person in a state of war, as classified by law but morally, definitely.

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Reply #9 - May 18^th, 2013 at 5:06am

Brian Ross wrote on May 14^th, 2013 at 9:29am:

Chard wrote on May 14^th, 2013 at 12:20am:

Depending on how you define "murderers" I work for an institution that's really damn good at it. Then again, it's not like it really bothers me in any way. The pay is nice and the benefits are outstanding.

US military?

FBI?

CIA?

US Government as a whole?

US Department of Defense. I specialize in missile defense, so technically I guess my job is to help prevent murder on large scales, but deep down I like working on or around things that go wooshKABOOM.

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I wouldn't suggest they're really good at Murder. Prolific perhaps but they do tend to, "use a sledgehammer to crack a walnut," don't they? Grin

That's because the sledgehammer is very noticeable, so you're looking at that while we're constantly rippling off cruise missiles or sending JSOC units in to quitely murder people in the background.

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A.A.Milne (of "Winne the Pooh" fame) pointed out, "the bomber pilot must answer for each individual bomb he drops..." (or words to that effect).

Of course they need to account for the bombs dropped. How else are you supposed to properly assess how effective the strike was if you don't know where the bombs actually hit?

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Murder? Not necessarily, if committed as by a military person in a state of war, as classified by law but morally, definitely.

You can make an argument that it's legal during wartime against valid targets of military importance, but when you get to the nuts and bolts it all comes down to two things.

1. Killing people.

2. Breaking stuff.

We just happen to be very good at doing both on scales going from some guy in a hut to leveling entire cities.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26515 Australia	Re: would you follow a murderer ? Reply #10 - May 18^th, 2013 at 5:11am Still no explanation of what this thread is about? SOB
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: would you follow a murderer ? Reply #11 - May 18^th, 2013 at 12:10pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18^th, 2013 at 5:11am: Still no explanation of what this thread is about? SOB But you already have 3 posts in it. That is you in a nutshell.
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Reply #12 - May 18^th, 2013 at 1:59pm

Chard wrote on May 18^th, 2013 at 5:06am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 14^th, 2013 at 9:29am:

Chard wrote on May 14^th, 2013 at 12:20am:

Depending on how you define "murderers" I work for an institution that's really damn good at it. Then again, it's not like it really bothers me in any way. The pay is nice and the benefits are outstanding.

US military?

FBI?

CIA?

US Government as a whole?

US Department of Defense. I specialize in missile defense, so technically I guess my job is to help prevent murder on large scales, but deep down I like working on or around things that go wooshKABOOM.

Civilian employee? How are your forced days on unpaid leave going? Appears the Republicans don't want you do this sort of stuff either... Grin

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I wouldn't suggest they're really good at Murder. Prolific perhaps but they do tend to, "use a sledgehammer to crack a walnut," don't they? Grin

That's because the sledgehammer is very noticeable, so you're looking at that while we're constantly rippling off cruise missiles or sending JSOC units in to quitely murder people in the background.

The sledehammer unfortunately tends to kill not only the intended target but also everybody around them for a distance of many kilometres (if Nukes are being used). No finess at all, when a single bullet could achieve the same ends.

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A.A.Milne (of "Winne the Pooh" fame) pointed out, "the bomber pilot must answer for each individual bomb he drops..." (or words to that effect).

Of course they need to account for the bombs dropped. How else are you supposed to properly assess how effective the strike was if you don't know where the bombs actually hit?

He meant morally, not financially... Roll Eyes

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Murder? Not necessarily, if committed as by a military person in a state of war, as classified by law but morally, definitely.

You can make an argument that it's legal during wartime against valid targets of military importance, but when you get to the nuts and bolts it all comes down to two things.

1. Killing people.

2. Breaking stuff.

We just happen to be very good at doing both on scales going from some guy in a hut to leveling entire cities.

My problem isn't with the killing of those who deserve to die. It is with the sledgehammer approach that creates massive "collateral damage" without concern as to the ongoing consequences... Roll Eyes

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Reply #13 - May 18^th, 2013 at 2:02pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 18^th, 2013 at 5:11am:

Still no explanation of what this thread is about?

SOB

Surely you should know by now, SOB? It is about the thousand and one ways in which Muslims can be blamed for all the problems in the world.

Used to be Jews but now they've switched their attentions to the Muslims. Roll Eyes

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Socrates Gold Member Offline A Dog With A Bone Posts: 583 Gender:	Re: would you follow a murderer ? Reply #14 - May 18^th, 2013 at 2:09pm I think sprintcyclist is referring to the late unlamented Osama bin Laden of al-Qaeda notoriety. Maybe I've got it wrong and really sprint means something entirely different ?
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