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Reply #45 - Apr 20^th, 2013 at 8:46pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 20^th, 2013 at 7:49pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 20^th, 2013 at 6:52pm:

Read my lips, gandalf ... Islam was their motive, their inspiration, their sponsor, their mentor, their patron, their advocate, and their guardian.

Yup - just like the Lebanese bikie gangs Tongue

Bringing about the islamic caliphate - one drive by shooting at a time.

The police themselves will tell you that ever since the bikie gangs decided to induct Pacific Islanders and Arabs, things have got a whole lot more violent and seriously criminal.

PS. I've become increasingly surprised and disappointed by the sheer number of poorly-informed keyboard jockeys who infest this forum board. I'll give it no more than a week before I move on.

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Reply #46 - Apr 20^th, 2013 at 9:09pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 20^th, 2013 at 8:46pm:

PS. I've become increasingly surprised and disappointed by the sheer number of poorly-informed keyboard jockeys who infest this forum board.

I on the other hand am not surprised in the least by seeing such moronic posts that ascribe the same motives of pan-islamist terrorists to drop-kick unemployed Lebanese youths who go around dealing drugs and shooting up police stations.

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poorly-informed keyboard jockeys who infest this forum board

just worth repeating for sheer posterity.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #47 - Apr 20^th, 2013 at 9:17pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 20^th, 2013 at 9:09pm:

I on the other hand am not surprised in the least by seeing such moronic posts that ascribe the same motives of pan-islamist terrorists to drop-kick unemployed Lebanese youths who go around dealing drugs and shooting up police stations.

They are overwhelmingly Muslim Lebanese ~ not Christian Lebanese.

How do you account for that?

And what do you say to the fact that the Boston bombers have been found to be Muslims after all? And that they were motivated only after recently becoming more deeply interested in their Islamic religion?

For how long do you think the general population is going to ignore the obvious?

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Re: not all terrorists are goddamn muslim, you bigot
Reply #49 - Apr 20^th, 2013 at 9:48pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 20^th, 2013 at 9:17pm:

... For how long do you think the general population is going to ignore the obvious?

There's a very clever clip on YouTube at the moment where a fellow goes about collecting signatures from the general public WRT 2nd amendent rights in the States. You know - guns! (Can't post a link! Whinge!)

He basically asks them to sign a petition that will limit gun-ownership to the criminal class. And they sign!

It's a bit like here, some people still have difficulty separating/differentiating the schism between Muslims and Islam.

And there is a big difference.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40867 Gender:	Re: not all terrorists are goddamn muslim, you bigot Reply #50 - Apr 20^th, 2013 at 10:03pm no, not all terrorists are muslims. Only about 98% of them.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 142946 Gender:	Re: not all terrorists are goddamn muslim, you bigot Reply #51 - Apr 20^th, 2013 at 10:16pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 20^th, 2013 at 10:03pm: no, not all terrorists are muslims. Only about 98% of them. But that doesn't mean that all Muslims are terrorists. Even your tiny brain can understand that ... yes?
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Re: not all terrorists are goddamn muslim, you bigot
Reply #52 - Apr 20^th, 2013 at 10:20pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 20^th, 2013 at 10:03pm:

no, not all terrorists are muslims.

Only about 98% of them.

Actually less than 1% in Europe and less than 10% in the US.

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 20^th, 2013 at 9:17pm:

They are overwhelmingly Muslim Lebanese ~ not Christian Lebanese.

How do you account for that?

Gee let me guess - maybe that there's something about the Lebanese muslim community in Australia that makes them more susceptible to crime? Once again you seem to be running with the strawman that I don't recognise Lebanese muslim crime. I also recognise other ethnic crimes, which you seem to want to pretend doesn't happen.

Where we differ Herbert, is that unlike you I don't subscribe to the hysterical belief that regular deadbeat criminals who happen to originate from Lebanon carry out their crime as part of a pan-islamic movement to bring about the world-wide caliphate. That is simply retarded.

And what you have singularly failed to explain is, if islam really was responsible for muslims committing crime in Australia, why is it that the criminals are almost exclusively from one nationality - namely Lebanese? Why is it that those muslim immigrants from Indonesia, Malaysia, India, Bosnia etc etc have nothing remotely resembling the crime rate of those muslim immigrants from Lebanon?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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AaLF Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 61 Gender:	Re: not all terrorists are goddamn muslim, you bigot Reply #53 - Apr 20^th, 2013 at 11:39pm Quote: no, not all terrorists are muslims. Only about 98% of them. And there-in lies the problem. If 98% of muslims were terrorists it'd be all over in a day or two. Then we would not need to have this argument. And we could all settle down to "one nation under God's Sharia."
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Reply #54 - Apr 20^th, 2013 at 11:48pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 20^th, 2013 at 8:46pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 20^th, 2013 at 7:49pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 20^th, 2013 at 6:52pm:

Read my lips, gandalf ... Islam was their motive, their inspiration, their sponsor, their mentor, their patron, their advocate, and their guardian.

Yup - just like the Lebanese bikie gangs Tongue

Bringing about the islamic caliphate - one drive by shooting at a time.

The police themselves will tell you that ever since the bikie gangs decided to induct Pacific Islanders and Arabs, things have got a whole lot more violent and seriously criminal.

PS. I've become increasingly surprised and disappointed by the sheer number of poorly-informed keyboard jockeys who infest this forum board. I'll give it no more than a week before I move on.

This place is good for little more than booting the crap out of leftards. If putting them in their place gives you pleasure, then this is the forum to do it.

To be fair to gandalf though, he's actually reasonably level-headed compared to most of the clowns who occupy this place.

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Re: not all terrorists are goddamn muslim, you bigot
Reply #55 - Apr 21^st, 2013 at 8:39am

Lionel Edriess wrote on Apr 20^th, 2013 at 9:48pm:

It's a bit like here, some people still have difficulty separating/differentiating the schism between Muslims and Islam.

And there is a big difference.

Ah. We've crossed swords over this one before.

But I take your point.

I've had many Muslim friends in the workplace whose default position was not one of hostility towards the Australian infidel host people.

But nevertheless they were all carriers and hosts of the sexually transmitted disease that we know as 'Islam'.

Take the Boston bombers. Their parents were interviewed on TV, and they seem to be a totally reasonable people with their head in the right place.

But Islam, being a sexually transmitted disease, resurfaced to deadly effect in their children. In the parents it remained dormant and non-lethal, only to be reactivated in a most violent way 25 years after the birth of their children.

This potential rests within every Muslim who is born to migrants in Western societies.

To invite Muslims to settle in your country is to play Russian Roulette with people's lives. Any people with the capacity to be 'radicalised' towards committing mass-murder should obviously be barred from immigration.

It's a no-brainer.

Just ask the people of Boston.

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Reply #56 - Apr 21^st, 2013 at 8:50am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 20^th, 2013 at 10:16pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 20^th, 2013 at 10:03pm:

no, not all terrorists are muslims.

Only about 98% of them.

But that doesn't mean that all Muslims are terrorists.

Even your tiny brain can understand that ... yes?

Polls in England taken immediately following the Twin Towers tragedy revealed a surprising number of UK Muslims in sympathy with the perpetrators.

I'll try to dig up the original poll results. What I remember is that there was only 10% of poll respondents who saw themselves as wholly and solely 'English' ~ with no sense of duty to be loyal to foreign Muslims.

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Why would anyone be supportive of Muslim immigration?

40% want Sharia law.

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Tragically, almost one in four British Muslims believe that last year's 7/7 attacks on London were justified because of British support for the U.S.-led war on terror.

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When asked, "Is Britain my country or their country?" only one in four say it is. Thirty percent of British Muslims would prefer to live under Sharia (Islamic religious) law than under British law.

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Twenty-eight percent hope for the U.K. one day to become a fundamentalist Islamic state.

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The news is no less alarming on the question of freedom of speech. Seventy-eight percent support punishment for the people who earlier this year published cartoons featuring the Prophet Mohammed. Sixty-eight percent support the arrest and prosecution of those British people who "insult Islam." When asked if free speech should be protected, even if it offends religious groups, 62 percent of British Muslims say No, it should not.

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By contrast, the U.K. embraced taxpayer-subsidized multiculturalism and has paid a very dear price, indeed. The result — cultural apartheid — has encouraged a significant number of Muslims to exhibit more loyalty to fellow Muslims outside of the U.K. than to their fellow Britons.

By allowing a continuing Muslim immigration program we are lemmings rushing to our own destruction.

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Re: not all terrorists are goddamn muslim, you bigot
Reply #57 - Apr 21^st, 2013 at 9:08am

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 21^st, 2013 at 8:39am:

... But nevertheless they were all carriers and hosts of the sexually transmitted disease that we know as 'Islam'. ...

And here is where we can agree, Herb.

How many Westerners have been converted and radicalised, and then go on to commit acts of terror against their own societies? It would appear that even 20 years of Westernised/Christian upbringing is no defence against this 'disease'.

I know of no other religion that actively exhorts its followers to commit murder, even mass murder, against those not of the faith. To leave, or even question, this 'religion', is to invite death.

This one simple fact is consistently ignored by the aoplogists for Islam.

Of the billions of Muslims worldwide, it is only the few radical Islamists that continue the terror, thus condemning the rest by their actions.

What then is the percentage of Islamic terrorists, as opposed to Muslim?

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Reply #58 - Apr 21^st, 2013 at 9:23am

Read the above quotes, Lionel.

If those figures relate to UK-born Muslims who have enjoyed the many benefits and privileges of growing up in a First World country with a very generous welfare system, then you can imagine the increase in those percentages for Muslims in the Middle East and in Indonesia whose attitudes have had no reason to be softened or moderated by having shared in these bounties.

Those Muslims have grown up in a Britain that has been bending over backwards to make them feel comfortable, cashed-up, included, welcomed, valued, etc etc with millions of taxpayer British Pounds going annually towards Muslim cultural groups, associations, councils, schools, prayer halls etc etc.

And yet blood is truly thicker than water.

A sizable number feel they have a religious duty to bite the hand that's been feeding them.

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Reply #59 - Apr 21^st, 2013 at 9:43am

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 21^st, 2013 at 8:50am:

Tragically, almost one in four British Muslims believe that last year's 7/7 attacks on London were justified because of British support for the U.S.-led war on terror.

Thats just a flat out lie Herbert, and its not even a quote from the source you cited.

What *YOUR* source says is this:

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The ICM opinion poll also indicates that a fifth have sympathy with the "feelings and motives" of the suicide bombers who attacked London last July 7, killing 52 people, although 99 per cent thought the bombers were wrong to carry out the atrocity.

So actually, your "1 in four think it was justified" really means 1 in 5 sympathise with the "feelings and motives" of the bombers - but almost all those believe the bombing was unjustified.

You are completely shameless Herbert.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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