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Re: Sea Levels continue to trend upward.
Reply #15 - Apr 8^th, 2013 at 12:46pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 9:08am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 8:57am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 10:44am:

for this time scale the data shows a strong linear correlation where the slope is a little over 3 mm per year

It is unlikely that this linearity will continue because there are tipping points and various positive drivers that come into play as the earths temperature rises.

What is expected is a departure from linear sea level rise behaviour to a bursts or exponential increases as these tipping points and positive rivers begin to act in unison etc.

If you look at the OP's graph, are we hitting the first exponential growth over the last 2 year period ?

Too early to say, but what can be said is that the cooling the deniers are claiming as the end of global warming was a short term anonmoly which is now undergoing a rapid correction back to modelled warming.

Oh well.

Model warming. Wow, which model you looking at? I cant seem to pick 1 that models our temps and thats from atleast 100 models.

Care to share.

Look at the OP you numskull.

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progressiveslol

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Re: Sea Levels continue to trend upward.
Reply #16 - Apr 8^th, 2013 at 1:12pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 12:46pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 9:08am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 8:57am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 10:44am:

for this time scale the data shows a strong linear correlation where the slope is a little over 3 mm per year

It is unlikely that this linearity will continue because there are tipping points and various positive drivers that come into play as the earths temperature rises.

What is expected is a departure from linear sea level rise behaviour to a bursts or exponential increases as these tipping points and positive rivers begin to act in unison etc.

If you look at the OP's graph, are we hitting the first exponential growth over the last 2 year period ?

Too early to say, but what can be said is that the cooling the deniers are claiming as the end of global warming was a short term anonmoly which is now undergoing a rapid correction back to modelled warming.

Oh well.

Model warming. Wow, which model you looking at? I cant seem to pick 1 that models our temps and thats from atleast 100 models.

Care to share.

Look at the OP you numskull.

I didnt see model anything.

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 7^th, 2013 at 7:53am:

Do you know what the fudge factor is to the graph MOTR. How much have they had to make the past lower, make the present higher in this graph.

In other words, what are the adjustments from the raw data in order to get the picture they wanted, just like they do with the temp data?

http://joannenova.com.au/2012/05/man-made-sea-level-rises-are-due-to-global-adju...

http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/guest/lansner/adjustments/sea-level-fig-2.jpg

http://www.climatechangefacts.info/ClimateChangeDocuments/NilsAxelMornerintervie...

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Re: Sea Levels continue to trend upward.
Reply #17 - Apr 8^th, 2013 at 1:19pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 1:12pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 12:46pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 9:08am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 8:57am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 10:44am:

for this time scale the data shows a strong linear correlation where the slope is a little over 3 mm per year

It is unlikely that this linearity will continue because there are tipping points and various positive drivers that come into play as the earths temperature rises.

What is expected is a departure from linear sea level rise behaviour to a bursts or exponential increases as these tipping points and positive rivers begin to act in unison etc.

If you look at the OP's graph, are we hitting the first exponential growth over the last 2 year period ?

Too early to say, but what can be said is that the cooling the deniers are claiming as the end of global warming was a short term anonmoly which is now undergoing a rapid correction back to modelled warming.

Oh well.

Model warming. Wow, which model you looking at? I cant seem to pick 1 that models our temps and thats from atleast 100 models.

Care to share.

Look at the OP you numskull.

I didnt see model anything.

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 7^th, 2013 at 7:53am:

Do you know what the fudge factor is to the graph MOTR. How much have they had to make the past lower, make the present higher in this graph.

In other words, what are the adjustments from the raw data in order to get the picture they wanted, just like they do with the temp data?

http://joannenova.com.au/2012/05/man-made-sea-level-rises-are-due-to-global-adju...

http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/guest/lansner/adjustments/sea-level-fig-2.jpg

http://www.climatechangefacts.info/ClimateChangeDocuments/NilsAxelMornerintervie...

http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/guest/lansner/adjustments/sea-level-fig-2.jpg

Exactly. No catestrophic warming to be found...despite every alarmist claim being prodded and poked and splashed with as much GRANT CASH that could be thrown at them..now the abstract of sea level rise (or continent sinking haha) and glacier retreat are thrown in....all of which are debunked with the simple notion that no warming equals no co2 feedback of consequence equals the warmist numpties have exagerated the life out this and it is now a mirthless joke.

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Doctor Jolly

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Reply #18 - Apr 8^th, 2013 at 1:49pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 1:12pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 12:46pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 9:08am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 8:57am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 10:44am:

for this time scale the data shows a strong linear correlation where the slope is a little over 3 mm per year

It is unlikely that this linearity will continue because there are tipping points and various positive drivers that come into play as the earths temperature rises.

What is expected is a departure from linear sea level rise behaviour to a bursts or exponential increases as these tipping points and positive rivers begin to act in unison etc.

If you look at the OP's graph, are we hitting the first exponential growth over the last 2 year period ?

Too early to say, but what can be said is that the cooling the deniers are claiming as the end of global warming was a short term anonmoly which is now undergoing a rapid correction back to modelled warming.

Oh well.

Model warming. Wow, which model you looking at? I cant seem to pick 1 that models our temps and thats from atleast 100 models.

Care to share.

Look at the OP you numskull.

I didnt see model anything.

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 7^th, 2013 at 7:53am:

Do you know what the fudge factor is to the graph MOTR. How much have they had to make the past lower, make the present higher in this graph.

In other words, what are the adjustments from the raw data in order to get the picture they wanted, just like they do with the temp data?

http://joannenova.com.au/2012/05/man-made-sea-level-rises-are-due-to-global-adju...

http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/guest/lansner/adjustments/sea-level-fig-2.jpg

http://www.climatechangefacts.info/ClimateChangeDocuments/NilsAxelMornerintervie...

http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/guest/lansner/adjustments/sea-level-fig-2.jpg

Thats not the OP, thats just a graph made by someone who cant even get auto-focus to work.

Jo Nova is an idiot, making money peddling bullsh1t to those more stupid than herself.
Well, either she's an idiot, or a nasty manipulator.

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Re: Sea Levels continue to trend upward.
Reply #19 - Apr 8^th, 2013 at 1:56pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 1:49pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 1:12pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 12:46pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 9:08am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 8:57am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 10:44am:

for this time scale the data shows a strong linear correlation where the slope is a little over 3 mm per year

It is unlikely that this linearity will continue because there are tipping points and various positive drivers that come into play as the earths temperature rises.

What is expected is a departure from linear sea level rise behaviour to a bursts or exponential increases as these tipping points and positive rivers begin to act in unison etc.

If you look at the OP's graph, are we hitting the first exponential growth over the last 2 year period ?

Too early to say, but what can be said is that the cooling the deniers are claiming as the end of global warming was a short term anonmoly which is now undergoing a rapid correction back to modelled warming.

Oh well.

Model warming. Wow, which model you looking at? I cant seem to pick 1 that models our temps and thats from atleast 100 models.

Care to share.

Look at the OP you numskull.

I didnt see model anything.

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 7^th, 2013 at 7:53am:

Do you know what the fudge factor is to the graph MOTR. How much have they had to make the past lower, make the present higher in this graph.

In other words, what are the adjustments from the raw data in order to get the picture they wanted, just like they do with the temp data?

http://joannenova.com.au/2012/05/man-made-sea-level-rises-are-due-to-global-adju...

http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/guest/lansner/adjustments/sea-level-fig-2.jpg

http://www.climatechangefacts.info/ClimateChangeDocuments/NilsAxelMornerintervie...

http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/guest/lansner/adjustments/sea-level-fig-2.jpg

Thats not the OP, thats just a graph made by someone who cant even get auto-focus to work.

Jo Nova is an idiot, making money peddling bullsh1t to those more stupid than herself.
Well, either she's an idiot, or a nasty manipulator.

Some people, even the graph (using non-manipulated data), say that the manipulated data is the manipulator. Hey, that even has maniplulat in both. Wonder who the manipulators are lol

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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: Sea Levels continue to trend upward. Reply #20 - Apr 8^th, 2013 at 2:20pm Probably the thing that is confusing you is that although there is data saying land temperatures have levelled, all recorded ocean temperature data is showing a continued warming trend. Higher ocean temperature = higher sea levels. Land temperature is irrelavent for this OP.
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Reply #21 - Apr 8^th, 2013 at 4:29pm

muso wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 6:35am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 7^th, 2013 at 9:21pm:

You're a temperamental type person. I shall call you "Nancy".

So, you don't have a reason? It's just a feeling in your bones?

Flick that chip off your shoulder. I was just heckling you. Hop off your high horse and come down and live amongst the rest of us proletariat. I couldn't give a fuying flock about topics that only 1% of the rest of humanity might even consider being interesting. Cheesy

When you finish displaying your superiority complex to everyone, you might want to consider that this post wasn't directed at you for response. But if you want to be my next punching bag, figuratively speaking, then I can make room on my schedule for you.

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Reply #22 - Apr 8^th, 2013 at 5:32pm

Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 2:20pm:

Probably the thing that is confusing you is that although there is data saying land temperatures have levelled, all recorded ocean temperature data is showing a continued warming trend.

Higher ocean temperature = higher sea levels.

Land temperature is irrelavent for this OP.

Yes, as a responce to strong el Nino events. Plain and simple, nothing to do with co2, emmissions or farts (brain or other). Everything else is irrelevant white noise designed to buffer the cash coffers of the CAUSE.

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Reply #23 - Apr 8^th, 2013 at 5:53pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 4:29pm:

[quote author=muso link=1364927377/9#9 date=1365366914][quote author=WorldSacred link=1364927377/6#6 date=1365333674]

Flick that chip off your shoulder. I was just heckling you. Hop off your high horse and come down and live amongst the rest of us proletariat. I couldn't give a fuying flock about topics that only 1% of the rest of humanity might even consider being interesting. Cheesy

When you finish displaying your superiority complex to everyone, you might want to consider that this post wasn't directed at you for response. But if you want to be my next punching bag, figuratively speaking, then I can make room on my schedule for you.

Well your original proclamation must have had some basis, you would think. The subject of Climatology is a tad more complex than the latest price of Santa Getrudis heifers at Gracemere, so if you have such a strong opinion on it, it stands to reason that you wouldn't have just snatched that particular pearl of wisdom from where the sun doesn't shine.

So what's your opinion on brain surgery? There has got to be more where the last one came from.

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Reply #24 - Apr 8^th, 2013 at 6:01pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 9:08am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 8:57am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 10:44am:

for this time scale the data shows a strong linear correlation where the slope is a little over 3 mm per year

It is unlikely that this linearity will continue because there are tipping points and various positive drivers that come into play as the earths temperature rises.

What is expected is a departure from linear sea level rise behaviour to a bursts or exponential increases as these tipping points and positive rivers begin to act in unison etc.

If you look at the OP's graph, are we hitting the first exponential growth over the last 2 year period ?

Too early to say, but what can be said is that the cooling the deniers are claiming as the end of global warming was a short term anonmoly which is now undergoing a rapid correction back to modelled warming.

Oh well.

Model warming. Wow, which model you looking at? I cant seem to pick 1 that models our temps and thats from atleast 100 models.

Care to share.

Are you trying to pretend that sea levels are not rising?!?!?

http://www.cmar.csiro.au/sealevel/sl_hist_last_15.html

DOn't you realise now how silly you are for falling hook,line and sinker for that silly opinion piece from the Daily Mail you keep referring to? You know - the one that claimed that there had been no global warming for 15 years or whatever.

If there has been no global warming - why do sea levels continue to rise? Why does glacial mass balance and the arctic ice cap continue to decrease? Why do ocean temperatures continue to rise?

Why do you always run away when asked that question?

Why is it that the only people you can find to support your denialism are a Daily Mail columnist, a children's TV presenter and a journal published by a bloke that was sentenced to 15 years imprisonment for fraud?

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Reply #25 - Apr 8^th, 2013 at 6:35pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 9:08am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 8:57am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 10:44am:

for this time scale the data shows a strong linear correlation where the slope is a little over 3 mm per year

It is unlikely that this linearity will continue because there are tipping points and various positive drivers that come into play as the earths temperature rises.

What is expected is a departure from linear sea level rise behaviour to a bursts or exponential increases as these tipping points and positive rivers begin to act in unison etc.

If you look at the OP's graph, are we hitting the first exponential growth over the last 2 year period ?

Too early to say, but what can be said is that the cooling the deniers are claiming as the end of global warming was a short term anonmoly which is now undergoing a rapid correction back to modelled warming.

Oh well.

Model warming. Wow, which model you looking at? I cant seem to pick 1 that models our temps and thats from atleast 100 models.

Care to share.

Are you trying to pretend that sea levels are not rising?!?!?

http://www.cmar.csiro.au/sealevel/images/alt_gmsl_seas_rem.jpg
http://www.cmar.csiro.au/sealevel/sl_hist_last_15.html

DOn't you realise now how silly you are for falling hook,line and sinker for that silly opinion piece from the Daily Mail you keep referring to? You know - the one that claimed that there had been no global warming for 15 years or whatever.

If there has been no global warming - why do sea levels continue to rise? Why does glacial mass balance and the arctic ice cap continue to decrease? Why do ocean temperatures continue to rise?

Why do you always run away when asked that question?

Why is it that the only people you can find to support your denialism are a Daily Mail columnist, a children's TV presenter and a journal published by a bloke that was sentenced to 15 years imprisonment for fraud?

Are you pretending you cant read

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Reply #27 - Apr 8^th, 2013 at 8:43pm

if you rank the DECADES for how hot they are you get

warmest decade on record 2000-2009
2nd warmest decade on record 1990-1999
3rd warmest decade on record 1980-1989
4th warmest decade on record 1970-1979
5th warmest decade on record 1960-1969

Gee. I wonder what could be causing this???

(don't worry, Andrew Bolt and Lord Monckton has assured everyone on the planet that the world has stopped warming for 15 years - phew - that was a close one - THANK GOD FOR THE HONEST INTELLECTUAL NAMED MR BOLT hey folks?)

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Reply #28 - Apr 8^th, 2013 at 8:57pm

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 6:35pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 9:08am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 8:57am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 10:44am:

for this time scale the data shows a strong linear correlation where the slope is a little over 3 mm per year

It is unlikely that this linearity will continue because there are tipping points and various positive drivers that come into play as the earths temperature rises.

What is expected is a departure from linear sea level rise behaviour to a bursts or exponential increases as these tipping points and positive rivers begin to act in unison etc.

If you look at the OP's graph, are we hitting the first exponential growth over the last 2 year period ?

Too early to say, but what can be said is that the cooling the deniers are claiming as the end of global warming was a short term anonmoly which is now undergoing a rapid correction back to modelled warming.

Oh well.

Model warming. Wow, which model you looking at? I cant seem to pick 1 that models our temps and thats from atleast 100 models.

Care to share.

Are you trying to pretend that sea levels are not rising?!?!?

http://www.cmar.csiro.au/sealevel/images/alt_gmsl_seas_rem.jpg
http://www.cmar.csiro.au/sealevel/sl_hist_last_15.html

DOn't you realise now how silly you are for falling hook,line and sinker for that silly opinion piece from the Daily Mail you keep referring to? You know - the one that claimed that there had been no global warming for 15 years or whatever.

If there has been no global warming - why do sea levels continue to rise? Why does glacial mass balance and the arctic ice cap continue to decrease? Why do ocean temperatures continue to rise?

Why do you always run away when asked that question?

Why is it that the only people you can find to support your denialism are a Daily Mail columnist, a children's TV presenter and a journal published by a bloke that was sentenced to 15 years imprisonment for fraud?

Are you pretending you cant read

Still no answers?

Still running away?

Please tell us

If there has been no global warming for 15 years - why do sea levels continue to rise? Why does glacial mass balance and the arctic ice cap continue to decrease? Why do ocean temperatures continue to rise?

Stop running away.

See how stupid you look when you believe crap written in a Daily Mail opinion piece?
When you get you information from the website of a children's TV presenter?
When you link to journals published by a bloke that was sentenced to 15 years imprisonment for fraud?

No wonder you run away every time you are asked a question.

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Reply #29 - Apr 8^th, 2013 at 10:08pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 8:57pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 6:35pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 6:01pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 9:08am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Apr 8^th, 2013 at 8:57am:

Chimp_Logic wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2013 at 10:44am:

for this time scale the data shows a strong linear correlation where the slope is a little over 3 mm per year

It is unlikely that this linearity will continue because there are tipping points and various positive drivers that come into play as the earths temperature rises.

What is expected is a departure from linear sea level rise behaviour to a bursts or exponential increases as these tipping points and positive rivers begin to act in unison etc.

If you look at the OP's graph, are we hitting the first exponential growth over the last 2 year period ?

Too early to say, but what can be said is that the cooling the deniers are claiming as the end of global warming was a short term anonmoly which is now undergoing a rapid correction back to modelled warming.

Oh well.

Model warming. Wow, which model you looking at? I cant seem to pick 1 that models our temps and thats from atleast 100 models.

Care to share.

Are you trying to pretend that sea levels are not rising?!?!?

http://www.cmar.csiro.au/sealevel/images/alt_gmsl_seas_rem.jpg
http://www.cmar.csiro.au/sealevel/sl_hist_last_15.html

DOn't you realise now how silly you are for falling hook,line and sinker for that silly opinion piece from the Daily Mail you keep referring to? You know - the one that claimed that there had been no global warming for 15 years or whatever.

If there has been no global warming - why do sea levels continue to rise? Why does glacial mass balance and the arctic ice cap continue to decrease? Why do ocean temperatures continue to rise?

Why do you always run away when asked that question?

Why is it that the only people you can find to support your denialism are a Daily Mail columnist, a children's TV presenter and a journal published by a bloke that was sentenced to 15 years imprisonment for fraud?

Are you pretending you cant read

Still no answers?

Still running away?

Please tell us

If there has been no global warming for 15 years - why do sea levels continue to rise? Why does glacial mass balance and the arctic ice cap continue to decrease? Why do ocean temperatures continue to rise?

Stop running away.

See how stupid you look when you believe crap written in a Daily Mail opinion piece?
When you get you information from the website of a children's TV presenter?
When you link to journals published by a bloke that was sentenced to 15 years imprisonment for fraud?

No wonder you run away every time you are asked a question.

Guess you arent. You are for real.

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