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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: Anarchism Reply #195 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 12:54am Did you think? Really?
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Reply #196 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 1:22am

Grey wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 12:54am:

Did you think? Really?

I must confess: I wasn't thinking that hard when I wrote that comment..lol. No, I thought I read awhile back on some anarchist site or somesuch that some people threw some bombs or something at around the turn of last century and apologised: maybe under duress perhaps it was!

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I'll try and find a link... Roll Eyes

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Anarchism Reply #197 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 12:49pm What has this got to do with cinema or TV? Isn't it a question of politics or philosophy?
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Anarchism Reply #198 - Feb 5^th, 2014 at 5:50pm Anarchy is the delusion of the romantic middle class. You couldn't have non-hierarchical orchestral music, architecture, health care, engineering, transport - anything. Not even a demo. Anarchism is utopian progressivism taken to its ultimate, ridiculous conclusion.
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Anarchism Reply #199 - Feb 5^th, 2014 at 6:02pm Soren wrote on Apr 11^th, 2013 at 10:37pm: Cleaving to a 19th century idea (anarchism) in the 21st century is really a conservative, not to say reactionary, state of mind. lol wtf
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Anarchism Reply #200 - Feb 5^th, 2014 at 6:02pm Soren wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 5:50pm: Anarchy is the delusion of the romantic middle class. You couldn't have non-hierarchical orchestral music, architecture, health care, engineering, transport - anything. Not even a demo. Anarchism is utopian progressivism taken to its ultimate, ridiculous conclusion. It's a friggen word mate!
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Reply #201 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:12pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 1:22am:

Grey wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 12:54am:

Did you think? Really?

I must confess: I wasn't thinking that hard when I wrote that comment..lol. No, I thought I read awhile back on some anarchist site or somesuch that some people threw some bombs or something at around the turn of last century and apologised: maybe under duress perhaps it was!

Shocked

I'll try and find a link... Roll Eyes

As I've said before, someday somebody will kill in the name of Joan Baez. there was and probably still is in some heads the idea of 'propaganda of the deed' . Assasinations were carried out by people claiming to be Anarchists but it's never been anything to do with the Anarchist mainstream. One of the main tenets of Anarchism is 'no to coercion' and the cause of the split between Anarchists and Communists was the refusal of Anarchists to support the imposition of socialism by force.

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Reply #202 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:21pm

Grey wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:12pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 1:22am:

Grey wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 12:54am:

Did you think? Really?

I must confess: I wasn't thinking that hard when I wrote that comment..lol. No, I thought I read awhile back on some anarchist site or somesuch that some people threw some bombs or something at around the turn of last century and apologised: maybe under duress perhaps it was!

Shocked

I'll try and find a link... Roll Eyes

As I've said before, someday somebody will kill in the name of Joan Baez. there was and probably still is in some heads the idea of 'propaganda of the deed' . Assasinations were carried out by people claiming to be Anarchists but it's never been anything to do with the Anarchist mainstream. One of the main tenets of Anarchism is 'no to coercion' and the cause of the split between Anarchists and Communists was the refusal of Anarchists to support the imposition of socialism by force.

Ya need to start your own club Grey, those highfaluting ideals of yours don't appear to be in sync with the other "Anarchists".......ya know..the sh1t stirrers.... Roll Eyes

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Reply #203 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:21pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 6:02pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 11^th, 2013 at 10:37pm:

Cleaving to a 19th century idea (anarchism) in the 21st century is really a conservative, not to say reactionary, state of mind.

lol wtf

Soren, a conservative, clearly has a problem there Grin

Another meaningless statement could be - Cleaving to a 19th century idea (conservatism) in the 21st century is really an Anarchic, not to say reactionary, state of mind.

We live in an Universe of action and reaction. While some basic ideas can hold true for centuries, the promotion of them will obviously be adapted to the current environment.

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Reply #204 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:26pm

viewpoint wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:21pm:

Ya need to start your own club Grey, those highfaluting ideals of yours don't appear to be in sync with the other "Anarchists".......ya know..the sh1t stirrers.... Roll Eyes

The poo's there viewpoint. Somebody has to stir it sometimes, otherwise people start to think that's where the smell of roses comes from.

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viewpoint Gold Member Offline A joke is a very serious thing. [Winston] Posts: 2209 Gender:	Re: Anarchism Reply #205 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:30pm Now I'll tell myself that when my fellow posters get their knickers in a twist whenever I respond to their crap......
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Reply #206 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:46pm

viewpoint wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:30pm:

Now I'll tell myself that when my fellow posters get their knickers in a twist whenever I respond to their crap......
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You're welcome viewpoint. My point is that when they have "world Economic forums' and 'G8 meets' the 'leaders' all meet up for champagne and caviar for a few days and then release a communique telling everybody how swell everything is and how much they're going to spend getting those poor Africans up to speed, (which never happens). Anarchists are right and doing a public service to protest in the strongest terms.

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Reply #207 - Feb 9^th, 2014 at 9:25pm

Grey wrote on Feb 9^th, 2014 at 3:21pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Feb 5^th, 2014 at 6:02pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 11^th, 2013 at 10:37pm:

Cleaving to a 19th century idea (anarchism) in the 21st century is really a conservative, not to say reactionary, state of mind.

lol wtf

Soren, a conservative, clearly has a problem there Grin

Another meaningless statement could be - Cleaving to a 19th century idea (conservatism) in the 21st century is really an Anarchic, not to say reactionary, state of mind.

We live in an Universe of action and reaction. While some basic ideas can hold true for centuries, the promotion of them will obviously be adapted to the current environment.

Conservatism is not a 19th century idea.

'Current environment' - the understanding of which is shaped by the ideas brought to the task of comprehension.

Anarchism is not something you actually see practiced anywhere - ergo, it is an utter fantasy, utopian dreaming.
Unlike conservatism, which is practiced and is flourishing IN PRACTICE everywhere.

But keep flailing your arms. That's all you can do, after all.

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Anarchism Reply #208 - Feb 14^th, 2014 at 4:39am 'Conservatism' is not practised anywhere: it's an idea like 'free-markets' and 'leftyism'... it exists in your head alone! 'Anarchy', too, is an idea... ** Attack with ideas.......................tally ho what what!!
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