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ACTU Claims Wide Support For Higher Dole.
Mar 17th, 2013 at 6:52am
 
ACTU claims wide support for higher dole.     Smiley

    by: Ewin Hannan
    From: The Australian
    March 13, 2013


UNIONS have seized on research showing most voters support increasing the Newstart allowance, renewing their push for the Gillard government to increase the unemployment payment in the federal budget in May.



To coincide with a two-day summit on job insecurity starting in Canberra today, the ACTU has released a survey of 1013 people that finds 54 per cent believe the current Newstart rate of $246.30 is not high enough and the ideal rate would be $315.     Huh

President Ged Kearney said she expected debate over Newstart to be a key theme of the ACTU summit, scheduled to be addressed by Julia Gillard tomorrow. The survey of work and welfare perceptions found voters overestimated the amount of welfare fraud and money directed to welfare payments compared with the US and Britain.   

Voters believed 17 per cent of welfare recipients were prosecuted for welfare fraud, but the prosecution rate was less than 1 per cent in 2009-10.


When asked how Australia compared with the US and Britain in terms of welfare payments, 61 per cent believed we spent more than the US, and 31 per cent believed we paid more than Britain. In 2009, the last year for which there is complete data, Australian public spending on cash benefits was 22 per cent of total government spending, compared with 23 per cent in the US and Britain.

The Australian reported last week that a proposal to give Newstart recipients -- including single parents -- a blanket $50-a-week increase has been all but ruled out by the government.     Sad

However, a proposal to allow single mothers and others on the dole to keep more of their earnings before losing welfare benefits is shaping as a key element of the May budget.

Ms Kearney said she was concerned that the participants believed welfare fraud was higher than the actual rate as it showed the "dole-bludger view of people on welfare" remained common.

The ACTU is pushing for a $50 a week rise in Newstart.

Ms Kearney said the survey found perceptions of the importance of the mining industry "vastly exaggerated". The perception that its contribution to the economy was 38 per cent of gross domestic product contrasted with a reality of 10 per cent.

The summit will consider data showing Australia has overtaken Spain and lags behind only Chile for the highest rate of temporary work in the OECD, at 27.9 per cent of the workforce.     Sad

Ms Kearney will say the social compact that has bound Australia together for more than 100 years is under threat from changes in the workplace. "Many of the changes to our workplace have had negative effects on workers and their families. We have forgotten that the burdens of economic change do not fall equally, that the drive to a more efficient and flexible economy has hurt some people more than others and increased inequality."
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Reply #1 - Mar 17th, 2013 at 7:29am
 
An increase is well overdue.

Not sure that $50 is affordable, maybe stage it in $30 this year and another $20 next year or something.
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Reply #2 - Mar 17th, 2013 at 6:59pm
 
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The Australian reported last week that a proposal to give Newstart recipients -- including single parents -- a blanket $50-a-week increase has been all but ruled out by the government.     Sad

However, a proposal to allow single mothers and others on the dole to keep more of their earnings before losing welfare benefits is shaping as a key element of the May budget.



Now, this assumes that they can find the work in the first place. And that's where it ALL falls down.

This is a cop-out, pure and simple, and is no-where near acceptable.

It does NOTHING for those who cannot. So, are those who cannot ALL bludgers, as some believe?

Impossible. Despite rightist rhetoric and media beat-ups to the contrary.

It's like the deplorable John Howard, who would fund 'training' for the unemployed then cut training
placements and make it impossible to get training assistance for all but the most menial of jobs.

It helped NO-ONE, but looked and sounded good to the assholes who thought (and still think) that
the unemployed are all lazy, drug-addicted, gambling drunks.

The $50/week raise should NOT be negotiable, and the Govt should have no choice but to grant it.

And the dole should be set at (say) 60% of the minimum wage, locked in, and indexed whenever
the min-wage raises come into effect. That would be fair, just, and affordable. The other alternative
is to return the dole to parity with the pension, and index it equally with the pension.

Anything less is an insult, and will ensure that the current, frankly obscene, ineqality compared to
other pensions and allowances not only continues, but will become worse, and progressively harder
to deal with.

The Govt likes to talk about 'mutual obligation' which is a real laugh, as they have never met theirs
but constantly harrass and victimise any poor bugger who has the temerity to miss an appointment
or not front-up for their make-work, pointless, training-bereft WfD schemes.

The unemployed are now perfectly within their rights to tell the Govt to pound it up their collective
dark, wet places, IMO.
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Reply #3 - Mar 17th, 2013 at 10:13pm
 
Kat wrote on Mar 17th, 2013 at 6:59pm:
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The Australian reported last week that a proposal to give Newstart recipients -- including single parents -- a blanket $50-a-week increase has been all but ruled out by the government.     Sad

However, a proposal to allow single mothers and others on the dole to keep more of their earnings before losing welfare benefits is shaping as a key element of the May budget.



Now, this assumes that they can find the work in the first place. And that's where it ALL falls down.

This is a cop-out, pure and simple, and is no-where near acceptable.

It does NOTHING for those who cannot. So, are those who cannot ALL bludgers, as some believe?

Impossible. Despite rightist rhetoric and media beat-ups to the contrary.

It's like the deplorable John Howard, who would fund 'training' for the unemployed then cut training
placements and make it impossible to get training assistance for all but the most menial of jobs.

It helped NO-ONE, but looked and sounded good to the assholes who thought (and still think) that
the unemployed are all lazy, drug-addicted, gambling drunks.

The $50/week raise should NOT be negotiable, and the Govt should have no choice but to grant it.

And the dole should be set at (say) 60% of the minimum wage, locked in, and indexed whenever
the min-wage raises come into effect. That would be fair, just, and affordable. The other alternative
is to return the dole to parity with the pension, and index it equally with the pension.

Anything less is an insult, and will ensure that the current, frankly obscene, ineqality compared to
other pensions and allowances not only continues, but will become worse, and progressively harder
to deal with.

The Govt likes to talk about 'mutual obligation' which is a real laugh, as they have never met theirs
but constantly harrass and victimise any poor bugger who has the temerity to miss an appointment
or not front-up for their make-work, pointless, training-bereft WfD schemes.

The unemployed are now perfectly within their rights to tell the Govt to pound it up their collective
dark, wet places, IMO.



I think that is another issue and it is also well over due but not in place of an increase - as well as an increase.
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Reply #4 - Mar 17th, 2013 at 11:08pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Mar 17th, 2013 at 10:13pm:


I think that is another issue and it is also well over due but not in place of an increase - as well as an increase.



Agreed. Both need to be addressed, and should have been a long time ago.

Someone on the dole who gets work may sometimes only work for a matter of a few hours a
week before losing benefits, depending on pay-rates and hours worked.

And once you use those 'working credits' it takes a LONG time to build them back up again.

It's somewhat better for pensioners, but not by much.
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Reply #5 - Mar 18th, 2013 at 6:06am
 
Unemployed miss out on super-sized pay increase

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    March 18, 2013

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Pensioners will get a super-sized pay rise, while Australians living on Newstart get a comparative pittance. From Wednesday, the take-home pay for single pensioners will jump by an extraordinary $35.80 per fortnight. Couples will get an extra $54.

The increase will lift the total fortnightly payment for a single pensioner to $808.40. It is made up of the scheduled half-yearly increase of $22.30 and the new carbon energy supplement of $13.50 per fortnight.

The first nine months of the energy supplement were paid in a lump sum ahead of the start of the carbon tax on July 1.

From Wednesday, the supplement will be paid fortnightly along with the pension. The Coalition has promised to remove it should it take office and abolish the carbon tax.


Meanwhile, unemployed Australians on Newstart will get much less. The single Newstart benefit will climb by just $4.40 per fortnight. And the Newstart carbon energy supplement is $8.40 per fortnight, much less than the $13.50 given to single pensioners.     Sad

The combination means unemployed Australians will get just one-third of the increase offered to pensioners: $12.80 per fortnight instead of $35.80.

Originally in line with the pension, Newstart began slipping in 1997 when the Howard government guaranteed to index the pension by at least the increase in male earnings but left Newstart linked to the consumer price index, which has climbed little since. In the year to December, it grew 2.2 per cent while male earnings climbed 5.5 per cent.

From Wednesday, the single Newstart payment will be $497 per fortnight and the pension will be $794.90.

Calculations by the NSW Social Policy Research Centre suggest Newstart will shrink to just one-third of the pension by 2050 unless the system is changed.     Sad

Labor backbenchers are lobbying the Treasurer to announce a $100 per fortnight increase in Newstart in the May budget.     Wink

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political-news/unemployed-miss-out-on-supersized-pay-increase-20130317-2g8xd.html#ixzz2NpSvLQwf
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Reply #6 - Mar 18th, 2013 at 6:41am
 
Just how much longer is this obscene discrimination going to be allowed to continue?

Crook, I've posted a synopsis of this in General, cos they won't come down here to debate.

I think they hope me, this board and the whole issue will simply fade away.

We won't be, though.
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Reply #7 - Mar 18th, 2013 at 7:25am
 
Well said Kat.  When will the unemployed ever get a long overdue, and fair and just increase?.  The pressure must be kept up, until they do.     Wink
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Reply #8 - Mar 18th, 2013 at 7:45am
 

Agree 100%, Crook.

It's sad, though, that all some members can do is abuse the messenger.

I've felt all along that, being an election year, they'll get nothing, but we
must, as you say, keep the pressure on.

Longie and a few others think I just come here to 'rant' (their words)
about it, but I'm also active elsewhere on this matter.

Thanks for the support... Smiley
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Reply #9 - Apr 24th, 2013 at 1:57pm
 
If the ACTU is so supportive of such an action the the ACTU should just levy it's members $30 pw and pay it to those people on Newstart. Cheesy

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