I predict that LABOR will lose the next Federal Election because of these two leading issues.

The Carbon Tax  is an invasive tax which has cost the whole Nation plenty and achieved nothing. The average working person does not want to hear the same tired old arguments, over how it reduces Carbon pollution the average punter thinks that is a crock.

I totally agree. Whilst I applaud Governments for reducing carbon emissions this intrusive tax, is not the way to do it and only causes our country to be uncompetitive and without any real impact on carbon emmissions here.

The Carbon Tax is a big fat balloon that the Liberals will quickly put a needle in. And deservedly so.

The other main one, are the boats up north that continue and continue to arrive uninvited to our shores. If other peoples want to emigrate here, apply to an Australian Embassy and get in the queue just like countless thousands of migrants have had to do.

Don't turn up on our doorstep with your hands out. I am totally convinced, the majority of Australians do no want this.

And further, they will tell Labor so come September.

LABOR to lose because of Carbon Tax, Boat People

So the Liberal Media dishonest spin has worked?

There is no honest reason?

True, but the main issue is trust. JuLiar killed off a first term, demokratically elected PM.

And the Labor brand is completely on the nose - in NSW, anyway. Craig Thomson, Eddie Obeid, the whole greasy lot of them.

Surely people aren't stupid enough to believe Tony Abbott will single-handedly stop the boats, fix the budget or even axe the tax. They're merely voting for him because he's not Labor and he's just saying he'll do all these things.

No one's really warming to Abbott, but I predict he'll get an easy ride on boat-stopping and the budget. He'll come in, blame it all on Labor, and continue promising, spending and taking in refugees as normal.

All Abbott has to do is appear to be trustworthy. If I was him I'd be promising as little as possible and keeping mum - which is pretty-much what he's doing anyway. That, and let the rest of the attack-dogs do the dog-whistling about behaviour protocols and all the rest - none of it to be implemented as policy.

None of it - direct action, the Pacific Solution, running a surplus - how can they? They're not workable solutions, and they contradict each other. Direct action is too expensive, there's no cost-cutting plan, and the Pacific Solution is dead in the water.

The people will vote for Abbott merely for saying these things, but he won't be doing any of them. Abbott will continue to blame Labor for most of his first term, just as he's done in opposition. At some point, he'll need to find his groove. No one knows what that will be - especially Abbott.

The carbon tax is in the nature of a large anchor, the lines of which are tied firmly round the ankles of Julia Gillard.
The issue of boat people is not simply to do with them coming but more to do with where they are coming from.
We assimilated thousands of Vietnamese boat people without any of this aggro. The issue now is inescapably that the vast majority are opposed to middle eastern immigration and the fact that some of it is illegal makes it a convenient hook to hang the anti-Labor hat on.

You have no feel for the mood of the people alevine. They do not always align their thoughts to your preferred ideal.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 11^th, 2013 at 1:38pm:


you might want to point to actual polls or other data to make your point. I dont think many people at all are 'against refugees'. I suspect a lot of people however are against them rolling up on our doorstep unannounced and without our collective permission. you might want to phrase your question more accurately.

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Mar 11^th, 2013 at 2:34pm:


that is a simplistic understanding of our obligations and cacpacity. there is a very big difference between asylum and refugee. and as has already bene established, an awful lot of them are country shoppers, having already passed thru a number of countries to reach us. This is not a simple question. My point remains that if you want to find what australian voters believe then you have to ask the right questions.

longweekend58 wrote on Mar 11^th, 2013 at 3:18pm:


You are as naive on this issue as dummy maqqa.  Country shoppers, no.  Seeking asylum, perfectly legal and within refugee convention.
And the convention provides a very simplistic view on our obligations.  It's the political narrative that seeks to complicate it.

Go educate yourself if you want to have a serious discussion.