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Maqqa
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Re: Abbott is right about carbon credits
Reply #30 - Mar 13th, 2013 at 12:08am
 
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Yet soil C has been excluded from the Kyoto Protocol mechanisms due to
perceived methodological barriers
. The science and practice of land use and C management has progressed considerably since 2000, so these potential barriers can now be met, resulting in high quality emissions reductions from sustainable land management (SLM)



It is very clear phil

Before 2000 - there were barriers therefore they couldn't use it

Now there are no barriers

It's very clear cut

I can embarrass you further

But you might want to go to the IPCC website and search words like "carbon soil" and "carbon credit" and "reforest"

Try it before posting again about Abbott's Direct Action Plan which as you say is 60% carbon soil
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Re: Abbott is right about carbon credits
Reply #31 - Mar 13th, 2013 at 12:29am
 
Maqqa wrote on Mar 13th, 2013 at 12:08am:
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Yet soil C has been excluded from the Kyoto Protocol mechanisms due to
perceived methodological barriers
. The science and practice of land use and C management has progressed considerably since 2000, so these potential barriers can now be met, resulting in high quality emissions reductions from sustainable land management (SLM)



It is very clear phil

Before 2000 - there were barriers therefore they couldn't use it

Now there are no barriers

It's very clear cut

I can embarrass you further

But you might want to go to the IPCC website and search words like "carbon soil" and "carbon credit" and "reforest"

Try it before posting again about Abbott's Direct Action Plan which as you say is 60% carbon soil


Perhaps you can show me where the Kyoto Protocol accepts storing carbon in soil towards emission reductions Macca.....According to the Australian Government it is not.....

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Some Carbon Farming Initiative (CFI) activities are not included in our greenhouse accounts under the Kyoto Protocol and do not count towards our national target. These include soil carbon, feral animal management and improved forest management. Through the CFI, these activities can earn non-Kyoto Australian Carbon Credit Units (ACCUs).


http://www.climatechange.gov.au/government/initiatives/carbon-farming-initiative...

Soil carbon is not counted in the protocol Macca.....However the Coalition still claim to reduce emissions by storing carbon in soil.....There is every chance it will never be counted towards emission reductions!!!

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Reply #32 - Mar 13th, 2013 at 1:05am
 
You see phil - you desperately want to believe this Labor government because of your political bias


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http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1475-2743.2004.tb00367.x/abstract

The Marrakech Accords allow biospheric carbon sinks and sources to be included in attempts to meet emission reduction targets for the first commitment period of the Kyoto Protocol. Forest management, cropland management, grazing land management and re-vegetation are allowable activities under Article 3.4 of the Kyoto Protocol. Soil carbon sinks and sources can therefore be included under these activities. The Kyoto Protocol states that sinks and sources of carbon should be accounted for ‘taking into account uncertainties, transparency in reporting, verifiability’. At its most stringent, verifiability would entail the sampling of each geo-referenced piece of land subject to an Article 3.4 activity at the beginning and end of a commitment period, using a sampling regime that gives adequate statistical power. Soil and vegetation samples and records would be archived and the data from each piece of land aggregated to produce a national figure. Separate methods would be required to deliver a second set of independent verification data. Such an undertaking at the national level would be prohibitively expensive. At its least stringent, verifiability would entail the reporting of areas under a given practice (without geo-referencing) and the use of default values for a carbon stock change for each practice, to infer a change for all areas under that practice. A definition of verifiability between these extremes would allow simple methods, such as those derived from IPCC default values for CO2 fluxes from soil, to be used for estimating changes in soil carbon. These may enable low-level verifiability to be achieved by most parties by the beginning of the first commitment period (2008–2012).




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http://www.pir.sa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/137904/PIRSA_soil_carbon_an...

t is also informative to note that the CSIRO suggests that Australia’s current Kyoto Protocol commitments already open the door to nearly 80% of the carbon sequestration potential of the continent, mainly in the form of forestry (Eady et al 2009, The Climate Institute 2009). Meanwhile soil carbon is estimated to provide around 2.5% of the national sequestration potential (Eady et al 2009). While soil carbon is expected to play a part in future climate change mitigation at the global and national scales,
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Reply #33 - Mar 13th, 2013 at 1:08am
 
You will also note from YOUR reference - all carbon credits ends up in the Voluntary market to be part of the Emissions Trading Scheme amongst countries


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Voluntary market
In 2010, 131 million carbon credits were traded in the voluntary carbon market worldwide, 34 per cent more than in 2009 (Peters-Stanley et al 2011). The prices of these credits ranged from US$0.10 to US$136.3/tCO2-e.
Several factors contribute to this variability, including the credibility of the offsets program, the integrity of offset credits and whether the project provided social or environmental co-benefits
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