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Mar 2nd, 2013 at 12:24pm
 
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The Newspoll fraud continues, and shows, this morning, variety.

It has not only ‘been weighted to reflect the population distribution’ (translation: we made up the figures) but, this time, would you actually believe it, not taken, not taken at all, ‘in areas affected by flood and bushfire’; in Queensland, that is, where the anti-Newman pro-Katter surge is huge now; in the Hunter Valley where Labor predominates, or used to; in Eden Monario, a litmus seat; and in Victoria where the Baillieu-blighted Liberal vote is rapidly tanking.

This uncorrected omission of numbers comes under criminal fraud I would think, and O’Shannessy should be arrested; in my view.

There are also 9 percent ‘refused’ or ‘uncommitted’, representing a million voters. A million is a tidy few. On top of which are, oh, fifteen million mobile phones not being rung.

It is tempting for these reasons to call this poll entirely worthless, or the equivalent of mass forgery, or Confederate currency in 1866; but it does show evidence, comrades, of a game-changing shift in voter intent.

This is to be seen in the ‘Others’ column, up from 6.6 in 2010 to 11 last weekend. That 4.4 shift, half a million votes, is clearly going Katter’s way in those heartland Queensland seats the LNP can’t easily hold any more, the ones unflooded last weekend that is, the half of rural and coastal Queensland that wasn’t flooded.

So, if you un-tweak the figures, throw in a margin of error, and some Katter votes trickling down to Labor in preferences, and some ten million mobile phones unrung, Labor wins this poll or scores 49.5, and Gillard leads Abbott 39-37.

I ask the Senate to investigate Newspoll and ask it to justify its methodology. About twenty-five percent of Australians don’t have, or don’t use landline phones any more since it’s cheaper to use mobiles only. And those mobiles aren’t rung, not one of them. Which means three million voters, probably, aren’t contacted. And the answered landlines, the whole of the sample that is, belong to and are used by preponderantly older people; who mostly, not always, vote Liberal.

It’s a pack of lies, probably.

Discuss.


I've no doubt newspoll selectively times the running of certain poll questions. I've also no doubt it picks certain regions to run a poll to construct, or exaggerate, a certain outcome. God knows what polls aren't published because they don't fit Murdoch's desired narrative.

Bob's concerns about Newpoll's methodology also appear quite reasonable. With polls seemingly driving the news cycle and no doubt feeding back into the polls, Bob raises some very important questions.

For those interested in the poll that Bob was referring to, this blog post was made on the 26th of Feb.

http://www.ellistabletalk.com/2013/02/26/10774/
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Reply #1 - Mar 2nd, 2013 at 12:27pm
 
Yeh but the idiot forgets that it also reflects all the other polls. But like I have said before, people are just sick of trying to tell these labor fools why they are unhappy. Given up trying to warn them.

It is good to see they will be walking off a cliff in blind folds (stupidity)
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Reply #2 - Mar 2nd, 2013 at 12:32pm
 
I'm well aware that the electorate is currently inclined to vote out the Gillard government, progs. Just as I'm aware most people don't trust or like Abbott. I actually get out and talk to people. I'm sure Bob also gets that. That's not the issue, progs.

Now, is it possible for you to address the concern over poll bias.
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Reply #3 - Mar 2nd, 2013 at 12:34pm
 
Bob Ellis......... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #4 - Mar 2nd, 2013 at 12:37pm
 
KJT1981 wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 12:34pm:
Bob Ellis......... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Ad hominem argument number two from the right wing echo chamber brigade. We're all aware of Bob's philosophies and political bias. How about playing the ball.
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Reply #5 - Mar 2nd, 2013 at 12:40pm
 
If  Ellis is right........Phoney Pony Tony has been kidding himself.

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Reply #6 - Mar 2nd, 2013 at 12:41pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 12:40pm:
If  Ellis is right........Phoney Pony Tony has been kidding himself.

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Not when the batter (Ellis) is a certified nut job.
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Reply #7 - Mar 2nd, 2013 at 12:44pm
 
Well as he is a critic of Gillard and a fan of Abbott, maybe you are right.

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Reply #8 - Mar 2nd, 2013 at 12:54pm
 
KJT1981 wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 12:41pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 12:40pm:
If  Ellis is right........Phoney Pony Tony has been kidding himself.

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Not when the batter (Ellis) is a certified nut job.


You've already told us that you have nothing constructive to add to this debate. I guess it's possible some didn't get it the first time.
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Reply #9 - Mar 2nd, 2013 at 1:02pm
 
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This uncorrected omission of numbers comes under criminal fraud I would think, and O’Shannessy should be arrested; in my view.



The above is something Miss Borg (another nut job) would say.
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Reply #10 - Mar 2nd, 2013 at 1:05pm
 
And this.


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I ask the Senate to investigate Newspoll and ask it to justify its methodology.



WTF does it have to do with the Senate?

It's ok, you keep quoting looneys.
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Reply #11 - Mar 2nd, 2013 at 1:09pm
 
Do you not know what powers the Senate has?

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Reply #12 - Mar 2nd, 2013 at 1:11pm
 
Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 1:09pm:
Do you not know what powers the Senate has?

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Do you think the senate would give a sh1t?
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Reply #13 - Mar 2nd, 2013 at 1:19pm
 
KJT1981 wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 1:11pm:
Aussie wrote on Mar 2nd, 2013 at 1:09pm:
Do you not know what powers the Senate has?

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I don't know, but you obviously did not know that the Senate can make it it's business if it elects to do so.  That is what Ellis was advocating.

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Do you think the senate would give a sh1t?

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