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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #75 - Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:06pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 1:49pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

I smashed both of you lefties on here the other day and you still have not learnt

You Dummy got so confused by the end of it you were delivering references that were contradicting your argument within the same post Grin

Yes, that's the bit I love the most.

In an attempt to support his own "argument", he posts references to section 14 of the amended Migration Act 1958 which clearly demonstrates that asylum seekers are not "illegals".

And to make it even funnier, the first words of s14(2) are "To avoid doubt ... ".

Grin

They referenced it

As I said - the reason why I called them "illegal" are

(1) The Migration Act referenced it
(2) The UN Convention referenced it
(3) They broke Australian law
(4) Illegal means unlawful

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #76 - Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:19pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:12pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:08pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 1:58pm:

So youve proven the point: if 9 out of 10 boat people are genuine refugees then the tpvs will do absolutely nothing in terms of deterrent. They may of course cause death to those not wishing to never see their families gain, but hey who cares, right?

And it's disgusting because it goes against the refugee convention when it comes to family reunion. We are always goin on about the family being the unit that makes our society strong, and yet we deny this to others within our society? Moronic policy, which only a moron could hav come up with; hi vanstone, ruddock and Howard.

The whole issue here is because these people are allowed to jump the processing queue that they make the journey

What queue. What about those who are generally "processed" faster than others by UNHCR? Are they also to be treated worse?

They should be treated based on first come first served or in your opinion they must be rightly treated because they have more money

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #77 - Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:20pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:14pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:12pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:08pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 1:58pm:

So youve proven the point: if 9 out of 10 boat people are genuine refugees then the tpvs will do absolutely nothing in terms of deterrent. They may of course cause death to those not wishing to never see their families gain, but hey who cares, right?

And it's disgusting because it goes against the refugee convention when it comes to family reunion. We are always goin on about the family being the unit that makes our society strong, and yet we deny this to others within our society? Moronic policy, which only a moron could hav come up with; hi vanstone, ruddock and Howard.

The whole issue here is because these people are allowed to jump the processing queue that they make the journey

What queue. What about those who are generally "processed" faster than others by UNHCR? Are they also to be treated worse?

Our refugee intake queue. For every one illegal immigrant who gets a spot, there is one person in some putrid UN camp in Africa who misses out.

Oh so this said queue I'd managed by who? And is it FIFO? Don't think soooo. So, what happens when we move people ahead of others? They also on tpvs?

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #78 - Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:22pm

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:06pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 1:49pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

I smashed both of you lefties on here the other day and you still have not learnt

You Dummy got so confused by the end of it you were delivering references that were contradicting your argument within the same post Grin

Yes, that's the bit I love the most.

In an attempt to support his own "argument", he posts references to section 14 of the amended Migration Act 1958 which clearly demonstrates that asylum seekers are not "illegals".

And to make it even funnier, the first words of s14(2) are "To avoid doubt ... ".

Grin

They referenced it

As I said - the reason why I called them "illegal" are

(1) The Migration Act referenced it
(2) The UN Convention referenced it
(3) They broke Australian law
(4) Illegal means unlawful

Where in 1) and 2) is it referenced? Where does it stipulate that asylum seekers are illegal?

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #79 - Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:23pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:22pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:06pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 1:49pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

I smashed both of you lefties on here the other day and you still have not learnt

You Dummy got so confused by the end of it you were delivering references that were contradicting your argument within the same post Grin

Yes, that's the bit I love the most.

In an attempt to support his own "argument", he posts references to section 14 of the amended Migration Act 1958 which clearly demonstrates that asylum seekers are not "illegals".

And to make it even funnier, the first words of s14(2) are "To avoid doubt ... ".

Grin

They referenced it

As I said - the reason why I called them "illegal" are

(1) The Migration Act referenced it
(2) The UN Convention referenced it
(3) They broke Australian law
(4) Illegal means unlawful

Where in 1) and 2) is it referenced? Where does it stipulate that asylum seekers are illegal?

Do a search

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #80 - Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:24pm

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:19pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:12pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:08pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 1:58pm:

So youve proven the point: if 9 out of 10 boat people are genuine refugees then the tpvs will do absolutely nothing in terms of deterrent. They may of course cause death to those not wishing to never see their families gain, but hey who cares, right?

And it's disgusting because it goes against the refugee convention when it comes to family reunion. We are always goin on about the family being the unit that makes our society strong, and yet we deny this to others within our society? Moronic policy, which only a moron could hav come up with; hi vanstone, ruddock and Howard.

The whole issue here is because these people are allowed to jump the processing queue that they make the journey

What queue. What about those who are generally "processed" faster than others by UNHCR? Are they also to be treated worse?

They should be treated based on first come first served or in your opinion they must be rightly treated because they have more money

But they areNt first come first served. To think so is delusional and completely misinformed. So what do we do with those we know were pushed ahead of others?

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #81 - Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:25pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:14pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:12pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:08pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 1:58pm:

So youve proven the point: if 9 out of 10 boat people are genuine refugees then the tpvs will do absolutely nothing in terms of deterrent. They may of course cause death to those not wishing to never see their families gain, but hey who cares, right?

And it's disgusting because it goes against the refugee convention when it comes to family reunion. We are always goin on about the family being the unit that makes our society strong, and yet we deny this to others within our society? Moronic policy, which only a moron could hav come up with; hi vanstone, ruddock and Howard.

The whole issue here is because these people are allowed to jump the processing queue that they make the journey

What queue. What about those who are generally "processed" faster than others by UNHCR? Are they also to be treated worse?

Our refugee intake queue. For every one illegal immigrant who gets a spot, there is one person in some putrid UN camp in Africa who misses out.

LOL

The ignorance is astounding.

1. Asylum seekers coming by boat are not illegal immigrants (we've established that fact).

2. Australia does not have a "refugee intake queue".

Australia has a Refugee and Humanitarian program which consists of two different components: Onshore - Protection, and Offshore - Resettlement.

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #82 - Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:26pm

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:23pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:22pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:06pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 1:49pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

I smashed both of you lefties on here the other day and you still have not learnt

You Dummy got so confused by the end of it you were delivering references that were contradicting your argument within the same post Grin

Yes, that's the bit I love the most.

In an attempt to support his own "argument", he posts references to section 14 of the amended Migration Act 1958 which clearly demonstrates that asylum seekers are not "illegals".

And to make it even funnier, the first words of s14(2) are "To avoid doubt ... ".

Grin

They referenced it

As I said - the reason why I called them "illegal" are

(1) The Migration Act referenced it
(2) The UN Convention referenced it
(3) They broke Australian law
(4) Illegal means unlawful

Where in 1) and 2) is it referenced? Where does it stipulate that asylum seekers are illegal?

Do a search

I have but I must not be using the same search as I can't find anything that supports your dummy argument.

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well Reply #83 - Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:26pm sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:24pm: But they are first come first served. To think so is delusional and completely misinformed. So what do we do with those we know were pushed ahead of others? Let me clarify that by saying - first apply first assessed
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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #84 - Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:26pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:26pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:23pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:22pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:06pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 1:49pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

I smashed both of you lefties on here the other day and you still have not learnt

You Dummy got so confused by the end of it you were delivering references that were contradicting your argument within the same post Grin

Yes, that's the bit I love the most.

In an attempt to support his own "argument", he posts references to section 14 of the amended Migration Act 1958 which clearly demonstrates that asylum seekers are not "illegals".

And to make it even funnier, the first words of s14(2) are "To avoid doubt ... ".

Grin

They referenced it

As I said - the reason why I called them "illegal" are

(1) The Migration Act referenced it
(2) The UN Convention referenced it
(3) They broke Australian law
(4) Illegal means unlawful

Where in 1) and 2) is it referenced? Where does it stipulate that asylum seekers are illegal?

Do a search

I have but I must not be using the same search as I can't find anything that supports your dummy argument.

Then you haven't searched

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #85 - Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:27pm

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:26pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:24pm:

But they are first come first served. To think so is delusional and completely misinformed. So what do we do with those we know were pushed ahead of others?

Let me clarify that by saying - first apply first assessed

But not relocated, not by a long shot. And first applied first assessed I doubt would be correct.

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #86 - Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:25pm:

LOL

The ignorance is astounding.

1. Asylum seekers coming by boat are not illegal immigrants (we've established that fact).

2. Australia does not have a "refugee intake queue".

Australia has a Refugee and Humanitarian program which consists of two different components: Onshore - Protection, and Offshore - Resettlement.

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Processing queue

That's why Labor have tried to copy LIBs with the No Disadvantage Test

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #87 - Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:28pm

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:26pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:26pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:23pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:22pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:06pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 1:49pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 1:41pm:

I smashed both of you lefties on here the other day and you still have not learnt

You Dummy got so confused by the end of it you were delivering references that were contradicting your argument within the same post Grin

Yes, that's the bit I love the most.

In an attempt to support his own "argument", he posts references to section 14 of the amended Migration Act 1958 which clearly demonstrates that asylum seekers are not "illegals".

And to make it even funnier, the first words of s14(2) are "To avoid doubt ... ".

Grin

They referenced it

As I said - the reason why I called them "illegal" are

(1) The Migration Act referenced it
(2) The UN Convention referenced it
(3) They broke Australian law
(4) Illegal means unlawful

Where in 1) and 2) is it referenced? Where does it stipulate that asylum seekers are illegal?

Do a search

I have but I must not be using the same search as I can't find anything that supports your dummy argument.

Then you haven't searched

Or I use government website and google, and not dummy.com

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #88 - Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:28pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:27pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:26pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:24pm:

But they are first come first served. To think so is delusional and completely misinformed. So what do we do with those we know were pushed ahead of others?

Let me clarify that by saying - first apply first assessed

But not relocated, not by a long shot. And first applied first assessed I doubt would be correct.

If you doubt then you don't understand the No Disadvantage Test that Labor is trying to copy and implement

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #89 - Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:29pm

Maqqa wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 25^th, 2013 at 2:25pm:

LOL

The ignorance is astounding.

1. Asylum seekers coming by boat are not illegal immigrants (we've established that fact).

2. Australia does not have a "refugee intake queue".

Australia has a Refugee and Humanitarian program which consists of two different components: Onshore - Protection, and Offshore - Resettlement.

Roll Eyes

Processing queue

That's why Labor have tried to copy LIBs with the No Disadvantage Test

Which is ambiguous at best because there is no such thing as a processing queue. Hence why they claim the average is 5 years but noone really knows because some can be 10 years; BECAUSE there is no queue.

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