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Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25 th, 2013 at 12:42pm: rabbitoh07 wrote on Feb 25 th, 2013 at 12:26pm: Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 25 th, 2013 at 11:33am: buzzanddidj wrote on Feb 25 th, 2013 at 11:25am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 25 th, 2013 at 10:03am: The 'problem' is not nauru.
if people want to come here illegally, then attempt suicide when they are processed, that's their call. When do Abbott's and his clodhoppers realise you cannot alter a legal status by voicing an OPINION ? There is NOTHING "illegal" in being a refugee If there WERE, Keating and Howard could have LEGALLY deported them on arrival When will you realise that they are, by their very definition, illegal immigrants? Do you not realise that the official term for the vessels they come on are known as a "SIEV"? That means Suspected Illegal Entry Vessel. When will you realise that until a decision has been made on their claim for asylum, they are indeed known as "illegal immigrants". If a decision is made in which their application for asylum is approved, they are released from detention and no further action taken against them. If, however, their application is denied, they are then put through the deportation process for having arrived in Australia illegally without a valid passport and visa. Until any decision is made regarding their request for asylum, they are (or were, until Gillard decided to bunk them next door to female students at a Sydney University) detained in an immigration detention facility. Consider yourself to now be properly and correctly informed.  When will you realise that until a decision has been made on their claim for asylum, they are indeed known as "illegal immigrants".errr...no. 100% Wrong. They are known as unlawful non-citizens under the Act Not "illegal immigrants". There is nothing illegal about seeking asylum Wow, thick as a brick you are! Yes, you are right that there is nothing illegal about claiming asylum. It's the method of arrival that makes them illegals via their attempt to enter Australian territory without a passport or visa. It is a breach of the Immigration Act (hence, it is illegal) to enter this country without those documents. You cannot even board a Qantas flight in Los Angeles or Auckland or London to come here without first showing your passport. The same applies for those who come by boat. If Jacques Cousteau were still alive and he came here on his yacht and didn't have his passport and visa, he'd be denied entry. It's that simple. There is no stigma attached to these people being called "illegal immigrants". It's just a fact and part of a process that begins the assessment of their application. If they're successful in applying then they are not charged with anything and will have no criminal record. If they're unsuccessful in applying they will then commence the process for deportation. Now, did I dumb that down sufficiently for your level of intelligence so you can understand the true facts??? Read section 14 of the Act. You are wrong. 100% wrong. (1) A non-citizen in the migration zone who is not a lawful non-citizen is an unlawful non-citizen.
(2) To avoid doubt, a non-citizen in the migration zone who, immediately before 1 September 1994, was an illegal entrant within the meaning of the Migration Act as in force then became, on that date, an unlawful non-citizen.They are not illegal immigrants. THere is nothing illegal about seeking asylum. An asylum seeker is NOT an illegal immigrant. Read the legislation moron.
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