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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #180 - Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:21pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:19pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:01pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 12:38pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 12:24pm:

Fair enough, but just recognise that it's the protection visa clauses that apply to asylum seekers, not section 14. As maqqa fails to understand, the dummy.

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http://www.immi.gov.au/visas/humanitarian/onshore/866/

To be granted a Protection visa you will need to be found to be owed protection in Australia, because you are a refugee as defined by the Refugees Convention, or because you meet the complementary protection criteria

These illegal aliens have been approved as refugees?

Asylum seekers aren't illegal aliens.

They certainly are aliens, but they're not illegal.

You'll get it right one day Maqqa.

Hopefully he'll also one day understand that asylum seekers apply for protection visas when they seek refugee status in Australia. And as a result anyone applying for asylum seeker status is guaranteed protection under the refugee convention, as per the migration act, until either their claim is approved or denied. Approve means they get protectionvisa. Denied means they become unlawful citizens and can be deported.

Migration Act 1858 section 36 - enough said

I'm gla you know the section. Finally dummy learnt something!!!

And it's given to refugees - not people who have just put in an application for asylum

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #181 - Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:21pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:20pm:

Honestly - I'm surprised you people have the stamina to keep going round and round in circles for months over this issue and really getting nowhere.

Bottom line (to me) is... we'll just have to wait and see what future Prime Minister Tony Abbott can do to solve the problem.

What problem?

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #182 - Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:22pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:21pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:16pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:01pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 12:38pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 12:24pm:

Fair enough, but just recognise that it's the protection visa clauses that apply to asylum seekers, not section 14. As maqqa fails to understand, the dummy.

Quote:

http://www.immi.gov.au/visas/humanitarian/onshore/866/

To be granted a Protection visa you will need to be found to be owed protection in Australia, because you are a refugee as defined by the Refugees Convention, or because you meet the complementary protection criteria

These illegal aliens have been approved as refugees?

Asylum seekers aren't illegal aliens.

They certainly are aliens, but they're not illegal.

You'll get it right one day Maqqa.

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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/illegal%20alien

illegal alien
noun
1.
a foreigner who has entered or resides in a country unlawfully or without the country's authorization.

yeah you'll get it right one day pecker

I get it right every day when I deal with you.

Today is no different.

Asylum seekers aren't illegal aliens.

Sorry old chum.

If they have been granted the status of and given the protection as an asylum seeker then they are a refugee - therefore they are not an illegal alien

before that - they are an illegal alien

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #183 - Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:22pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:21pm:

Carl D wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:20pm:

Honestly - I'm surprised you people have the stamina to keep going round and round in circles for months over this issue and really getting nowhere.

Bottom line (to me) is... we'll just have to wait and see what future Prime Minister Tony Abbott can do to solve the problem.

What problem?

about 33,000+ problems since 2007

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #184 - Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:23pm

Maqqa wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:18pm:

If they have been granted the status of and given the protection as an asylum seeker then they are a refugee - therefore they are not an illegal alien

before that - they are an illegal alien

Oh Maqqa, you're so confused it's not funny anymore.

One does not have to be "granted the status of" an asylum seeker.

One simply makes the claim, and then they become an asylum seeker.

Once again you're confusing the terms "asylum seeker" and "refugee". They aren't the same Maqqa.

There is no application form or approval process to become an asylum seeker.

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #185 - Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:25pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:

Carl D wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:13pm:

Is it illegal to pay criminals (people smugglers) thousands of dollars to 'jump the queue' and enter Australia ahead of thousands of refugees waiting years to get here through the proper channels?

If the answer is "no" would it then be illegal if I paid a criminal to rob a bank for me?

What queue? And under the refugee convention the way a person comes into the country bares no significance. So stfu

Last time I looked this was a public forum where EVERYONE has a right to an opinion so I would kindly appreciate you not telling me or anyone else to STFU.

Judging by the increasing 'anger' in your posts lately my money is on you being one of these 'refugee advocates' with your snout in the taxpayer funded trough and you're worried about your little 'gravy train' getting derailed after the Federal election in September.

Can't happen soon enough for me (and most of Australia, I'm sure).

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #186 - Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:18pm:

If they have been granted the status of and given the protection as an asylum seeker then they are a refugee - therefore they are not an illegal alien

before that - they are an illegal alien

Oh Maqqa, you're so confused it's not funny anymore.

One does not have to be "granted the status of" an asylum seeker.

One simply makes the claim, and then they become an asylum seeker.

Once again you're confusing the terms "asylum seeker" and "refugee". They aren't the same Maqqa.

There is no application form or approval process to become an asylum seeker.

He is just a dummy

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #187 - Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:28pm

Carl D wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:25pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:

Carl D wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:13pm:

Is it illegal to pay criminals (people smugglers) thousands of dollars to 'jump the queue' and enter Australia ahead of thousands of refugees waiting years to get here through the proper channels?

If the answer is "no" would it then be illegal if I paid a criminal to rob a bank for me?

What queue? And under the refugee convention the way a person comes into the country bares no significance. So stfu

Last time I looked this was a public forum where EVERYONE has a right to an opinion so I would kindly appreciate you not telling me or anyone else to STFU.

Judging by the increasing 'anger' in your posts lately my money is on you being one of these 'refugee advocates' with your snout in the taxpayer funded trough and you're worried about your little 'gravy train' getting derailed after the Federal election in September.

Can't happen soon enough for me (and most of Australia, I'm sure).

Yes yes gravy train. Grin

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. Another dummy without a clue

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #188 - Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:30pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:18pm:

If they have been granted the status of and given the protection as an asylum seeker then they are a refugee - therefore they are not an illegal alien

before that - they are an illegal alien

Oh Maqqa, you're so confused it's not funny anymore.

One does not have to be "granted the status of" an asylum seeker.

One simply makes the claim, and then they become an asylum seeker.

Once again you're confusing the terms "asylum seeker" and "refugee". They aren't the same Maqqa.

There is no application form or approval process to become an asylum seeker.

He is just a dummy

Of unbelievable proportions.

It's hard to believe that an adult can't understand the difference between:

- refugee and asylum seeker
- alien and illegal alien
- illegal and unlawful

To think that he actually believes that one has to be "granted the status of" asylum seeker is, quite frankly, unbelievable.

GOP = Guardians Of Paedophiles

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #189 - Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

One does not have to be "granted the status of" an asylum seeker.

One simply makes the claim, and then they become an asylum seeker.

One simple has to make a claim, and then they become.......??

REALLY!!??

Lets apply this concept of "claim therefore for you are" concept

So if I claimed that you are an idiot - then you are

So if I claimed you are a moron - then you are

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #190 - Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:32pm

FriYAY wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:17pm:

“should not be treated as illegal if a person is seeking asylum”

So they should be considered illegal before they claim asylum. No one knows his or her intention before the claim for asylum is made.

So boats entering Australian waters, contain illegal entrants, until asylum is claimed.

Cheesy

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #191 - Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:36pm

Maqqa wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

One does not have to be "granted the status of" an asylum seeker.

One simply makes the claim, and then they become an asylum seeker.

One simple has to make a claim, and then they become.......??

REALLY!!??

Yes, that's 100% correct Maqqa.

One simply makes the claim that they are seeking asylum, and they become an asylum seeker.

Did you honestly think there was an application form? Grin

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #192 - Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:18pm:

If they have been granted the status of and given the protection as an asylum seeker then they are a refugee - therefore they are not an illegal alien

before that - they are an illegal alien

Oh Maqqa, you're so confused it's not funny anymore.

One does not have to be "granted the status of" an asylum seeker.

One simply makes the claim, and then they become an asylum seeker.

Once again you're confusing the terms "asylum seeker" and "refugee". They aren't the same Maqqa.

There is no application form or approval process to become an asylum seeker.

He is just a dummy

Of unbelievable proportions.

It's hard to believe that an adult can't understand the difference between:

- refugee and asylum seeker
- alien and illegal alien
- illegal and unlawful

To think that he actually believes that one has to be "granted the status of" asylum seeker is, quite frankly, unbelievable.

It is unbelievable

I tried to explain it to you and you still don't get it

Sad for you

Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #193 - Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:36pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

One does not have to be "granted the status of" an asylum seeker.

One simply makes the claim, and then they become an asylum seeker.

One simple has to make a claim, and then they become.......??

REALLY!!??

Yes, that's 100% correct Maqqa.

One simply makes the claim that they are seeking asylum, and they become an asylum seeker.

Did you honestly think there was an application form? Grin

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That would be section 28-51

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Re: Labor have now stuffed up Nauru as well
Reply #194 - Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:41pm

Maqqa wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:30pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:23pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 26^th, 2013 at 1:18pm:

If they have been granted the status of and given the protection as an asylum seeker then they are a refugee - therefore they are not an illegal alien

before that - they are an illegal alien

Oh Maqqa, you're so confused it's not funny anymore.

One does not have to be "granted the status of" an asylum seeker.

One simply makes the claim, and then they become an asylum seeker.

Once again you're confusing the terms "asylum seeker" and "refugee". They aren't the same Maqqa.

There is no application form or approval process to become an asylum seeker.

He is just a dummy

Of unbelievable proportions.

It's hard to believe that an adult can't understand the difference between:

- refugee and asylum seeker
- alien and illegal alien
- illegal and unlawful

To think that he actually believes that one has to be "granted the status of" asylum seeker is, quite frankly, unbelievable.

It is unbelievable

I tried to explain it to you and you still don't get it

Sad for you

Each time you do I fall into intense laughter. Can you explain again pls? Grin

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