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Re: Swan scores own goal with new Audit regime
Reply #45 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:29am

Maqqa wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 9:26am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:11pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 6:55pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:34pm:

I dont see how releasing the figures after the election helps voters decide. ?

Unless he's playing for the DD election, so by the time the 2nd election comes around the figures are on the board.

you would think that publishing them BEFORE the election would make more sense. 30 days after is just fast enough that abbott cant legislate to stop it. Swan knows he is going down so he is preparing as many landmines as he can.

he can only plant landmines if Abbott is lying about his costings .... tell the truth and he has nothing to fear.

but Abbott's costs are based on Swan's costings - and we all know how bad Swan's costings are

which is all anyone can ask of him ... but that doesn't explain his reluctance to show figures ... if swans figures are out (by the way, it's treasury not swan .. but we'll ignore facts just to humour you) then he is entitled to adjust his own costings and no one will blame him. It's a bullsh it excuse.

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Re: Swan scores own goal with new Audit regime
Reply #46 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:29am

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:26am:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 9:27am:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 8:23pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 7:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 1:17pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 1:13pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:38pm:

One simple fact in economics seems to escape Swan. If you spend more money than you get, you cannot have a surplus. Swan is addicted to spending and sees it as the solution to every problem. Can't wait to hear him whine from Opposition about Abbott's cutbacks to pay for Swan's debt. Mark my words - Swan will be screaming from the rooftops how out of touch and hurtful Abbott is to Australian families but will conveniently leave out the fact that it was his reckless spending that forced Abbott to make those drastic decisions.

hit the nail on the head there

instead of admitting they got it wrong - Labor goes from one disaster to another

Labor accuse Abbott of cutting give aways that they announced in last year's Budget

But we can't afford it

The way we can afford it is to increase the national debt to beyond the current $250B

Wow look at dumb and dumber agreeing with each other. Care to remind us, dumbies, what the government's spending increases vs. gdp growth have been? Grin

the difference between $22B surplus and $250B debt. this wanky GDP percentage is how these dropkicks get into trouble by saying crap like 'we are spending less as a percet of GDP that Howard' while forgetting that they are spending far more than they get in.

For those who don't know!
Surpluses or Deficits, are annual, whereas Debt is the Total accumulation of those Surpluses or Deficits.

Again, for those who don't know!
Whether it is Expenditure to GDP % OR the Debt to GDP %, both are valuable Economic/Accounting tools.
Both provide a reasonable performance guide, as to how one government compares against others, although there can be some inaccuracy "problems" built in, by some governments looking to "paint pictures/SPIN", rather than provide accurate information!

And the performance was better when debt was ZERO!!!

No sh!t Sherlock!

The Economic performances usually are better, WHEN the local &/or Global Economic cycle is approaching a Peak and can therefore afford to pay down Debt, instead of being down & out AND the period from 1995-2006 was the greatest Economic upswing in history, so the performance during that period should have been better.

So, besides that period, what other times have the Libs &/or Labs shown consistent surpluses & zero Debt?
In particular, how did the Libs go, during the Howard Treasurer years from 1977-1983?

Therefore the LIBs are better economic managers

Comparing the current ALP to other countries makes them look like geniuses

Comparing the current ALP to the LIBs - the ALP are morons

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Re: Swan scores own goal with new Audit regime
Reply #47 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:33am

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:29am:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 9:26am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:11pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 6:55pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:34pm:

I dont see how releasing the figures after the election helps voters decide. ?

Unless he's playing for the DD election, so by the time the 2nd election comes around the figures are on the board.

you would think that publishing them BEFORE the election would make more sense. 30 days after is just fast enough that abbott cant legislate to stop it. Swan knows he is going down so he is preparing as many landmines as he can.

he can only plant landmines if Abbott is lying about his costings .... tell the truth and he has nothing to fear.

but Abbott's costs are based on Swan's costings - and we all know how bad Swan's costings are

which is all anyone can ask of him ... but that doesn't explain his reluctance to show figures ... if swans figures are out (by the way, it's treasury not swan .. but we'll ignore facts just to humour you) then he is entitled to adjust his own costings and no one will blame him. It's a bullsh it excuse.

Because once the figures are out - the ALP can focus on Abbott's figures rather than having to justify their numbers

Even if Swan's numbers are wrong - do you think he's going to admit he's wrong and say

"Sorry my figures are wrong so I'll give Abbott time to redo his"

Or is he going to attack the LIBs on getting the numbers wrong despite the fact that it's based on Labor's wrong numbers

When you deal with someone with no sense of integrity like Swan - then you have to adopt another strategy

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Re: Swan scores own goal with new Audit regime
Reply #48 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:38am

Maqqa wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 9:28am:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 7:37pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 6:55pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:34pm:

I dont see how releasing the figures after the election helps voters decide. ?

Unless he's playing for the DD election, so by the time the 2nd election comes around the figures are on the board.

you would think that publishing them BEFORE the election would make more sense. 30 days after is just fast enough that abbott cant legislate to stop it. Swan knows he is going down so he is preparing as many landmines as he can.

I agree & would suggest that it should be legislated that both major party's should have to submit their "election promises" to Treasury, at least 90 days prior to election, so that Treasury estimates can be published 60 days prior to the election!

Further and partially to enable the above process, elections should be "fixed" on a set date, say around October/November or March/April.

Further, to assist in raising Productivity, all Federal & State elections should be held at the same time.

To further assist in raising Productivity, Local Council elections should not be held at all, as Local Councils should be abandoned, in favour of rolling them up into a single Federal authority.

Finally, these elections should be held every 4 years!

What's the point when Swan's numbers are wrong

this then allow Labor to pull LIBs back into the mud

no thanks

The point is that it will then be fixed in legislation and both party's will have to comply!

So, the Public will then be able to cast judgement, on the basis that Treasury is hopefully "independent"!

And, its the Public you are interested in Right?

Just as a back up, I would also have in the legislation a guarantee of Treasury being unbiased, to both government & opposition AND if anyone at Treasury, any Politician &/or the Political assistants are shown to have interfered with correct due process, THEN they will be sacked!

Btw, IF Labor &/or Liberal figures are incorrect, THEN they deserve to be shown up for that.

And of course, what goes around comes around, which means that today the Libs are in opposition, whereas at the next election they will most likely be in government.

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Re: Swan scores own goal with new Audit regime
Reply #49 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:42am

Maqqa wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:29am:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:26am:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 9:27am:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 8:23pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 7:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 1:17pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 1:13pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:38pm:

One simple fact in economics seems to escape Swan. If you spend more money than you get, you cannot have a surplus. Swan is addicted to spending and sees it as the solution to every problem. Can't wait to hear him whine from Opposition about Abbott's cutbacks to pay for Swan's debt. Mark my words - Swan will be screaming from the rooftops how out of touch and hurtful Abbott is to Australian families but will conveniently leave out the fact that it was his reckless spending that forced Abbott to make those drastic decisions.

hit the nail on the head there

instead of admitting they got it wrong - Labor goes from one disaster to another

Labor accuse Abbott of cutting give aways that they announced in last year's Budget

But we can't afford it

The way we can afford it is to increase the national debt to beyond the current $250B

Wow look at dumb and dumber agreeing with each other. Care to remind us, dumbies, what the government's spending increases vs. gdp growth have been? Grin

the difference between $22B surplus and $250B debt. this wanky GDP percentage is how these dropkicks get into trouble by saying crap like 'we are spending less as a percet of GDP that Howard' while forgetting that they are spending far more than they get in.

For those who don't know!
Surpluses or Deficits, are annual, whereas Debt is the Total accumulation of those Surpluses or Deficits.

Again, for those who don't know!
Whether it is Expenditure to GDP % OR the Debt to GDP %, both are valuable Economic/Accounting tools.
Both provide a reasonable performance guide, as to how one government compares against others, although there can be some inaccuracy "problems" built in, by some governments looking to "paint pictures/SPIN", rather than provide accurate information!

And the performance was better when debt was ZERO!!!

No sh!t Sherlock!

The Economic performances usually are better, WHEN the local &/or Global Economic cycle is approaching a Peak and can therefore afford to pay down Debt, instead of being down & out AND the period from 1995-2006 was the greatest Economic upswing in history, so the performance during that period should have been better.

So, besides that period, what other times have the Libs &/or Labs shown consistent surpluses & zero Debt?
In particular, how did the Libs go, during the Howard Treasurer years from 1977-1983?

Therefore the LIBs are better economic managers

Comparing the current ALP to other countries makes them look like geniuses

Comparing the current ALP to the LIBs - the ALP are morons

The Economic performances usually are better, WHEN the local &/or Global Economic cycle is approaching a Peak and can therefore afford to pay down Debt, instead of being down & out AND
the period from 1995-2006 was the greatest GLOBAL Economic upswing in history
, so the performance during that period should have been better.

So, besides that period, what other times have the Libs &/or Labs shown consistent surpluses & zero Debt?
In particular, how did the Libs go, during the Howard Treasurer years from 1977-1983?

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Re: Swan scores own goal with new Audit regime
Reply #50 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 2:04pm

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:42am:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:29am:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:26am:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 9:27am:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 8:23pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 7:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 1:17pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 1:13pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:38pm:

One simple fact in economics seems to escape Swan. If you spend more money than you get, you cannot have a surplus. Swan is addicted to spending and sees it as the solution to every problem. Can't wait to hear him whine from Opposition about Abbott's cutbacks to pay for Swan's debt. Mark my words - Swan will be screaming from the rooftops how out of touch and hurtful Abbott is to Australian families but will conveniently leave out the fact that it was his reckless spending that forced Abbott to make those drastic decisions.

hit the nail on the head there

instead of admitting they got it wrong - Labor goes from one disaster to another

Labor accuse Abbott of cutting give aways that they announced in last year's Budget

But we can't afford it

The way we can afford it is to increase the national debt to beyond the current $250B

Wow look at dumb and dumber agreeing with each other. Care to remind us, dumbies, what the government's spending increases vs. gdp growth have been? Grin

the difference between $22B surplus and $250B debt. this wanky GDP percentage is how these dropkicks get into trouble by saying crap like 'we are spending less as a percet of GDP that Howard' while forgetting that they are spending far more than they get in.

For those who don't know!
Surpluses or Deficits, are annual, whereas Debt is the Total accumulation of those Surpluses or Deficits.

Again, for those who don't know!
Whether it is Expenditure to GDP % OR the Debt to GDP %, both are valuable Economic/Accounting tools.
Both provide a reasonable performance guide, as to how one government compares against others, although there can be some inaccuracy "problems" built in, by some governments looking to "paint pictures/SPIN", rather than provide accurate information!

And the performance was better when debt was ZERO!!!

No sh!t Sherlock!

The Economic performances usually are better, WHEN the local &/or Global Economic cycle is approaching a Peak and can therefore afford to pay down Debt, instead of being down & out AND the period from 1995-2006 was the greatest Economic upswing in history, so the performance during that period should have been better.

So, besides that period, what other times have the Libs &/or Labs shown consistent surpluses & zero Debt?
In particular, how did the Libs go, during the Howard Treasurer years from 1977-1983?

Therefore the LIBs are better economic managers

Comparing the current ALP to other countries makes them look like geniuses

Comparing the current ALP to the LIBs - the ALP are morons

The Economic performances usually are better, WHEN the local &/or Global Economic cycle is approaching a Peak and can therefore afford to pay down Debt, instead of being down & out AND
the period from 1995-2006 was the greatest GLOBAL Economic upswing in history
, so the performance during that period should have been better.

So, besides that period, what other times have the Libs &/or Labs shown consistent surpluses & zero Debt?
In particular, how did the Libs go, during the Howard Treasurer years from 1977-1983?

Oops, cat got your tongue, Maqqa?

No ready made SPIN answers?

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Re: Swan scores own goal with new Audit regime
Reply #51 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 4:45pm

Maqqa wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:33am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:29am:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 9:26am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:11pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 6:55pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:34pm:

I dont see how releasing the figures after the election helps voters decide. ?

Unless he's playing for the DD election, so by the time the 2nd election comes around the figures are on the board.

you would think that publishing them BEFORE the election would make more sense. 30 days after is just fast enough that abbott cant legislate to stop it. Swan knows he is going down so he is preparing as many landmines as he can.

he can only plant landmines if Abbott is lying about his costings .... tell the truth and he has nothing to fear.

but Abbott's costs are based on Swan's costings - and we all know how bad Swan's costings are

which is all anyone can ask of him ... but that doesn't explain his reluctance to show figures ... if swans figures are out (by the way, it's treasury not swan .. but we'll ignore facts just to humour you) then he is entitled to adjust his own costings and no one will blame him. It's a bullsh it excuse.

Because once the figures are out - the ALP can focus on Abbott's figures rather than having to justify their numbers

Even if Swan's numbers are wrong - do you think he's going to admit he's wrong and say

"Sorry my figures are wrong so I'll give Abbott time to redo his"

Or is he going to attack the LIBs on getting the numbers wrong despite the fact that it's based on Labor's wrong numbers

When you deal with someone with no sense of integrity like Swan - then you have to adopt another strategy

bullsh it .... if his policy is based on figures that later change, his outcome also changes and no one would deny him the right to adjust his policy .... I tell all my friends that if I win lotto I plan to buy a Ferrari, doesn't mean anyone expects me to buy a Ferrari if I don't win. You are pretending voters are stupid just because it's a convenient excuse to not provide figures.

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Re: Swan scores own goal with new Audit regime
Reply #52 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 6:13pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 4:45pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:33am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:29am:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 9:26am:

John Smith wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 9:11pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 6:55pm:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:34pm:

I dont see how releasing the figures after the election helps voters decide. ?

Unless he's playing for the DD election, so by the time the 2nd election comes around the figures are on the board.

you would think that publishing them BEFORE the election would make more sense. 30 days after is just fast enough that abbott cant legislate to stop it. Swan knows he is going down so he is preparing as many landmines as he can.

he can only plant landmines if Abbott is lying about his costings .... tell the truth and he has nothing to fear.

but Abbott's costs are based on Swan's costings - and we all know how bad Swan's costings are

which is all anyone can ask of him ... but that doesn't explain his reluctance to show figures ... if swans figures are out (by the way, it's treasury not swan .. but we'll ignore facts just to humour you) then he is entitled to adjust his own costings and no one will blame him. It's a bullsh it excuse.

Because once the figures are out - the ALP can focus on Abbott's figures rather than having to justify their numbers

Even if Swan's numbers are wrong - do you think he's going to admit he's wrong and say

"Sorry my figures are wrong so I'll give Abbott time to redo his"

Or is he going to attack the LIBs on getting the numbers wrong despite the fact that it's based on Labor's wrong numbers

When you deal with someone with no sense of integrity like Swan - then you have to adopt another strategy

bullsh it .... if his policy is based on figures that later change, his outcome also changes and no one would deny him the right to adjust his policy .... I tell all my friends that if I win lotto I plan to buy a Ferrari, doesn't mean anyone expects me to buy a Ferrari if I don't win. You are pretending voters are stupid just because it's a convenient excuse to not provide figures.

That example of your is probably because people dont give a shite for a start and second because you talk like that all the time.

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Re: Swan scores own goal with new Audit regime
Reply #53 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 6:55pm

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 4:45pm:

bullsh it .... if his policy is based on figures that later change, his outcome also changes and no one would deny him the right to adjust his policy .... I tell all my friends that if I win lotto I plan to buy a Ferrari, doesn't mean anyone expects me to buy a Ferrari if I don't win. You are pretending voters are stupid just because it's a convenient excuse to not provide figures.

When he was Health Minister - he was rolled in a vote about Medicare and Labor never let him live it down

So it would not change in this situation

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Re: Swan scores own goal with new Audit regime
Reply #56 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 2:04pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:42am:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:29am:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 10:26am:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 9:27am:

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 8:23pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 7:00pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 1:17pm:

Maqqa wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 1:13pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2013 at 12:38pm:

One simple fact in economics seems to escape Swan. If you spend more money than you get, you cannot have a surplus. Swan is addicted to spending and sees it as the solution to every problem. Can't wait to hear him whine from Opposition about Abbott's cutbacks to pay for Swan's debt. Mark my words - Swan will be screaming from the rooftops how out of touch and hurtful Abbott is to Australian families but will conveniently leave out the fact that it was his reckless spending that forced Abbott to make those drastic decisions.

hit the nail on the head there

instead of admitting they got it wrong - Labor goes from one disaster to another

Labor accuse Abbott of cutting give aways that they announced in last year's Budget

But we can't afford it

The way we can afford it is to increase the national debt to beyond the current $250B

Wow look at dumb and dumber agreeing with each other. Care to remind us, dumbies, what the government's spending increases vs. gdp growth have been? Grin

the difference between $22B surplus and $250B debt. this wanky GDP percentage is how these dropkicks get into trouble by saying crap like 'we are spending less as a percet of GDP that Howard' while forgetting that they are spending far more than they get in.

For those who don't know!
Surpluses or Deficits, are annual, whereas Debt is the Total accumulation of those Surpluses or Deficits.

Again, for those who don't know!
Whether it is Expenditure to GDP % OR the Debt to GDP %, both are valuable Economic/Accounting tools.
Both provide a reasonable performance guide, as to how one government compares against others, although there can be some inaccuracy "problems" built in, by some governments looking to "paint pictures/SPIN", rather than provide accurate information!

And the performance was better when debt was ZERO!!!

No sh!t Sherlock!

The Economic performances usually are better, WHEN the local &/or Global Economic cycle is approaching a Peak and can therefore afford to pay down Debt, instead of being down & out AND the period from 1995-2006 was the greatest Economic upswing in history, so the performance during that period should have been better.

So, besides that period, what other times have the Libs &/or Labs shown consistent surpluses & zero Debt?
In particular, how did the Libs go, during the Howard Treasurer years from 1977-1983?

Therefore the LIBs are better economic managers

Comparing the current ALP to other countries makes them look like geniuses

Comparing the current ALP to the LIBs - the ALP are morons

The Economic performances usually are better, WHEN the local &/or Global Economic cycle is approaching a Peak and can therefore afford to pay down Debt, instead of being down & out AND
the period from 1995-2006 was the greatest GLOBAL Economic upswing in history
, so the performance during that period should have been better.

So, besides that period, what other times have the Libs &/or Labs shown consistent surpluses & zero Debt?
In particular, how did the Libs go, during the Howard Treasurer years from 1977-1983?

Oops, cat got your tongue, Maqqa?

No ready made SPIN answers?

Lets face facts Maqqa, YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS!

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Re: Swan scores own goal with new Audit regime
Reply #57 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 9:29pm

Maqqa wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 6:55pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 4:45pm:

bullsh it .... if his policy is based on figures that later change, his outcome also changes and no one would deny him the right to adjust his policy .... I tell all my friends that if I win lotto I plan to buy a Ferrari, doesn't mean anyone expects me to buy a Ferrari if I don't win. You are pretending voters are stupid just because it's a convenient excuse to not provide figures.

When he was Health Minister - he was rolled in a vote about Medicare and Labor never let him live it down

So it would not change in this situation

I'm not asking for his vote, I'm asking for his policies ..... would you buy a house if the salesman told you don't worry about it trust me, we can inspect it after you sign ... only an idiot would vote for someone who refuses to show his policies and how he plas to implement him .. he's already told us we cannot trust him ..I guess thats why you'd vote for him, your an A class idiot

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Re: Swan scores own goal with new Audit regime
Reply #58 - Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 9:30pm

perceptions_now wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2013 at 9:19pm:

Lets face facts Maqqa, YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS!

I answered this earlier today when you referenced this thread

but here it is again

back in 1977 - when Howard was Treasurer

back in 1996 - when Costello was Treasurer

back in 2007 - when Swan is the Treasurer

when you open both eyes - you'll realise Costello was the best of these

even skippy agrees that Costello ran the economy like clockwork

it seems the ALP always cry how they take over when the economy is not growing - but they fall to take personal responsibility for their own failures

Interest rates at 18% is not something that instil confidence during the Keating era

whether you like the explanation or not - any country that involve itself in a major war always seems to be behind the eight ball post war

1975-76 was when the Vietnam War ended - so blame the then Treasurer as much as you want but he more than made up for it during 1996-2007

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