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Reply #15 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:42am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:40am:
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:33am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 10:49am:
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Great homes that need $100,000 spent on repairs.  Then again if crooks like you sell them, it becomes someone elses problem.     Sad



nothing wrong with buying a home that needs $100 000 worth of repairs as long as you are aware of it at the time of buying , it usually gives you room to move on the price ... and if you haven't done your checks and sign away to spend several hundred thoudsand dollars worth of property than you're an idiot and deserve to get stung.


Bullshit !! You don't get time to do the checks !!

In Europe, property inspections are mandatory before a joint can be sold so that someone can't end up with a termite infested dump that at the very least is unlivable and/or dangerous. Of course the most important thing when buying a house in this country full of scammers is the real estate agents ripoff commissions and the bank loan to stitch you up for the rest of your life. Who cares if you have forked out millions and ended up with something that you can't live in Sad


what a load of rubbish .. do you just make this up as you go?  .... one can tell you've never bought a house ...

you get all the time you need to run all the checks you want ... most building and pest inspections only take a few days to organise, a week at the most besides, you can always have the option of asking your lawyer to add a clause to make any agreement subject to satisfactory pest and building inspection results .... 

did you also make up that stuff about Europe?  I know I didn't need to provide any building or pest inspection when I sold a property in Italy ..... last time I  checked Italy was in Europe wasn't it? .. unless it's moved.


Try germany mate.

It should be provided by the vendor and not the buyer as a matter of law. Why would a dozen interested parties all waste money on duplicating an architects report when thge one report should be provided by the vendor ?

When you sell a car over a certain amount you have to provide a road worthy certificate so why not for a more expensive item such as a house ?


Sure, as in Norway ... but you didn't say Germany, you said Europe .

Also, I'm not sure what state you're in, but I'm pretty sure you don't HAVE to provide a road worthy certificate in NSW  .... sure, buyers usually ask for them, but you are not obliged to provide them, I know I've sold cars in NSW without roadworthy certificates  ... unless your a motor dealer of course.
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Reply #16 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:42am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 10:52am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 10:49am:
In Europe, property inspections are mandatory before a joint can be sold so that someone can't end up with a termite infested dump that at the very least is unlivable and/or dangerous. Of course the most important thing when buying a house in this country full of scammers is the real estate agents ripoff commissions and the bank loan to stitch you up for the rest of your life. Who cares if you have forked out millions and ended up with something that you can't live in Sad





Your insane rants always brighten up my day  Grin






Jeez road worthies on a car must be a bad idea to you as well Sad

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Reply #17 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:47am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:42am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:40am:
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:33am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 10:49am:
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 9:20am:
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Great homes that need $100,000 spent on repairs.  Then again if crooks like you sell them, it becomes someone elses problem.     Sad



nothing wrong with buying a home that needs $100 000 worth of repairs as long as you are aware of it at the time of buying , it usually gives you room to move on the price ... and if you haven't done your checks and sign away to spend several hundred thoudsand dollars worth of property than you're an idiot and deserve to get stung.


Bullshit !! You don't get time to do the checks !!

In Europe, property inspections are mandatory before a joint can be sold so that someone can't end up with a termite infested dump that at the very least is unlivable and/or dangerous. Of course the most important thing when buying a house in this country full of scammers is the real estate agents ripoff commissions and the bank loan to stitch you up for the rest of your life. Who cares if you have forked out millions and ended up with something that you can't live in Sad


what a load of rubbish .. do you just make this up as you go?  .... one can tell you've never bought a house ...

you get all the time you need to run all the checks you want ... most building and pest inspections only take a few days to organise, a week at the most besides, you can always have the option of asking your lawyer to add a clause to make any agreement subject to satisfactory pest and building inspection results .... 

did you also make up that stuff about Europe?  I know I didn't need to provide any building or pest inspection when I sold a property in Italy ..... last time I  checked Italy was in Europe wasn't it? .. unless it's moved.


Try germany mate.

It should be provided by the vendor and not the buyer as a matter of law. Why would a dozen interested parties all waste money on duplicating an architects report when thge one report should be provided by the vendor ?

When you sell a car over a certain amount you have to provide a road worthy certificate so why not for a more expensive item such as a house ?


Sure, as in Norway ... but you didn't say Germany, you said Europe .

Also, I'm not sure what state you're in, but I'm pretty sure you don't HAVE to provide a road worthy certificate in NSW  .... sure, buyers usually ask for them, but you are not obliged to provide them, I know I've sold cars in NSW without roadworthy certificates  ... unless your a motor dealer of course.


so it's ok to sell a termite infested old dump for an exorbitant price to anyone and it's a case of buyer beware !! And the scumbag real estate agent has no legal liabilities except to help themselves to their greedy commissions. Sounds like a great system we have here Sad
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Reply #18 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:52am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:47am:
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:42am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:40am:
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:33am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 10:49am:
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 9:20am:
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Great homes that need $100,000 spent on repairs.  Then again if crooks like you sell them, it becomes someone elses problem.     Sad



nothing wrong with buying a home that needs $100 000 worth of repairs as long as you are aware of it at the time of buying , it usually gives you room to move on the price ... and if you haven't done your checks and sign away to spend several hundred thoudsand dollars worth of property than you're an idiot and deserve to get stung.


Bullshit !! You don't get time to do the checks !!

In Europe, property inspections are mandatory before a joint can be sold so that someone can't end up with a termite infested dump that at the very least is unlivable and/or dangerous. Of course the most important thing when buying a house in this country full of scammers is the real estate agents ripoff commissions and the bank loan to stitch you up for the rest of your life. Who cares if you have forked out millions and ended up with something that you can't live in Sad


what a load of rubbish .. do you just make this up as you go?  .... one can tell you've never bought a house ...

you get all the time you need to run all the checks you want ... most building and pest inspections only take a few days to organise, a week at the most besides, you can always have the option of asking your lawyer to add a clause to make any agreement subject to satisfactory pest and building inspection results .... 

did you also make up that stuff about Europe?  I know I didn't need to provide any building or pest inspection when I sold a property in Italy ..... last time I  checked Italy was in Europe wasn't it? .. unless it's moved.


Try germany mate.

It should be provided by the vendor and not the buyer as a matter of law. Why would a dozen interested parties all waste money on duplicating an architects report when thge one report should be provided by the vendor ?

When you sell a car over a certain amount you have to provide a road worthy certificate so why not for a more expensive item such as a house ?


Sure, as in Norway ... but you didn't say Germany, you said Europe .

Also, I'm not sure what state you're in, but I'm pretty sure you don't HAVE to provide a road worthy certificate in NSW  .... sure, buyers usually ask for them, but you are not obliged to provide them, I know I've sold cars in NSW without roadworthy certificates  ... unless your a motor dealer of course.


so it's ok to sell a termite infested old dump for an exorbitant price to anyone and it's a case of buyer beware !! And the scumbag real estate agent has no legal liabilities except to help themselves to their greedy commissions. Sounds like a great system we have here Sad


what has the agent to do with anything? Do you blame the sales girl at Hardly Normal when you buy a dodgy fridge? get real ... you just want to blame anyone and everyone for your problems ..... even if I own a termite infested dump, I am allowed to sell it for whatever the market is willing to pay for it, if you don't want a old termite infested dump don't buy it.  ... I personally wouldn't pay for a tattoo but i'm not about to blame tattoo artists if my son got a tattoo once he was old enough ... 

yes it is a case of buyer beware ... since you seem to be aware of the concept you have no reason to get stung ...
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Reply #19 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 12:27pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:42am:
BigOl64 wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 10:52am:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 10:49am:
In Europe, property inspections are mandatory before a joint can be sold so that someone can't end up with a termite infested dump that at the very least is unlivable and/or dangerous. Of course the most important thing when buying a house in this country full of scammers is the real estate agents ripoff commissions and the bank loan to stitch you up for the rest of your life. Who cares if you have forked out millions and ended up with something that you can't live in Sad





Your insane rants always brighten up my day  Grin






Jeez road worthies on a car must be a bad idea to you as well Sad

f.cken idiot interjection as usual.



Yes exactly, I was totally referring to road worthies for cars with my comment.  Grin



I'm surprised you can get out of bed in the morning without someone doing most of the work for you.

You sad little bugger.  Grin


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Reply #20 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 2:57pm
 
I may be wrong, it's not unknown, but in NSW I thought that you couldn't issue a contract for sale without supplying an inspection report by a licensed building inspector.
But I haven't sold a home in 30 years so I could have it wrong.
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Reply #21 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 3:51pm
 
hadrian_now wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 2:57pm:
I may be wrong, it's not unknown, but in NSW I thought that you couldn't issue a contract for sale without supplying an inspection report by a licensed building inspector.
But I haven't sold a home in 30 years so I could have it wrong.


I don't think so, I sold my property in NSW 2.5 yrs ago and it wasn't required .... it is up to the buyer to get a building and pest inspection and no buyer can ever say they didn't know because the first thing their lawyer will tell them is to get a building and pest inspection ...

a nearby neighbour of mine bought his property on the Gold Coast without an inspection, property has extensive termite damage which is obvious to anyone who knows what to look for .... he accepts it's his own stupid fault for not getting the inspections done at the time of purchase.
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Reply #22 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 5:30pm
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:52am:
what has the agent to do with anything? Do you blame the sales girl at Hardly Normal when you buy a dodgy fridge? get real ... you just want to blame anyone and everyone for your problems ..... even if I own a termite infested dump, I am allowed to sell it for whatever the market is willing to pay for it, if you don't want a old termite infested dump don't buy it.  ... I personally wouldn't pay for a tattoo but i'm not about to blame tattoo artists if my son got a tattoo once he was old enough ... 

yes it is a case of buyer beware ... since you seem to be aware of the concept you have no reason to get stung ...


because they should do something for the money they get instead of telling lies and ripping people off.

Like I said why would ten interest parties each get an independent architects report on the one joint ?

Wouldn't it make more sense that the seller get one and make it available for any prospective purchaser ?

What you and the corrupt real estate institute advocates is brain dead but you always whinge and whine about being short changed a few hundred bucks on a transaction that could be in the millions Sad

The whole real estate industry in australia is full of crooks after a slice of the action from doing little or no work and the government is just as guilty in perpetuating it Sad

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Reply #23 - Feb 16th, 2013 at 5:41pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 5:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:52am:
what has the agent to do with anything? Do you blame the sales girl at Hardly Normal when you buy a dodgy fridge? get real ... you just want to blame anyone and everyone for your problems ..... even if I own a termite infested dump, I am allowed to sell it for whatever the market is willing to pay for it, if you don't want a old termite infested dump don't buy it.  ... I personally wouldn't pay for a tattoo but i'm not about to blame tattoo artists if my son got a tattoo once he was old enough ... 

yes it is a case of buyer beware ... since you seem to be aware of the concept you have no reason to get stung ...


because they should do something for the money they get instead of telling lies and ripping people off.
your assuming that they lie ... based on what? a dream? How do they rip you off? you don't pay them the seller does. They do their job, which is to bring buyers and sellers together . You can always chose to go it alone ... you don't have to use an agent


Like I said why would ten interest parties each get an independent architects report on the one joint ?
because ten parties would not ..was that another dream?  ... one usually gets the reports done after an offer is made an accepted ... since a seller can only do that once, it is impossible to have 10 people asking for the same report, it is illegal for him to accept another offer after he has already accepted one .


Wouldn't it make more sense that the seller get one and make it available for any prospective purchaser ?
nope, you want it you pay ... as a seller I have no need for a report


What you and the corrupt real estate institute advocates is brain dead but you always whinge and whine about being short changed a few hundred bucks on a transaction that could be in the millions Sad

you do realise the money people pay for the house goes to the seller and not the agent don't you?  and since agents take their commission from the money before they hand over the moeny to the seller, I doubt there are many cases of someone being short changed .. we'll just notch that one up to another dream why don't we.


The whole real estate industry in australia is full of crooks after a slice of the action from doing little or no work and the government is just as guilty in perpetuating it Sad

little or no work? fine, get a job as a real estate agent . I'm betting you wouldn't last 6 months



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just as an after thought nail

you do realise that the agent works for the seller and not the buyer don't you?  you can of course hire a buyers agent to act on your behalf and look after your interests, but I'm betting you won't want to pay for it .
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Reply #25 - Feb 17th, 2013 at 10:21am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 9:30pm:
just as an after thought nail

you do realise that the agent works for the seller and not the buyer don't you?  you can of course hire a buyers agent to act on your behalf and look after your interests, but I'm betting you won't want to pay for it .


that's debatable. Many unscrupulous agents falsely quote just to sign the punters up to their books and then proceed to find anyone to buy it even if it means selling it a greatly reduced price. Agents are all in it for their comissions Sad
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Reply #26 - Feb 17th, 2013 at 10:30am
 
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 5:41pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 5:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:52am:
what has the agent to do with anything? Do you blame the sales girl at Hardly Normal when you buy a dodgy fridge? get real ... you just want to blame anyone and everyone for your problems ..... even if I own a termite infested dump, I am allowed to sell it for whatever the market is willing to pay for it, if you don't want a old termite infested dump don't buy it.  ... I personally wouldn't pay for a tattoo but i'm not about to blame tattoo artists if my son got a tattoo once he was old enough ... 

yes it is a case of buyer beware ... since you seem to be aware of the concept you have no reason to get stung ...


because they should do something for the money they get instead of telling lies and ripping people off.
your assuming that they lie ... based on what? a dream? How do they rip you off? you don't pay them the seller does. They do their job, which is to bring buyers and sellers together . You can always chose to go it alone ... you don't have to use an agent


Like I said why would ten interest parties each get an independent architects report on the one joint ?
because ten parties would not ..was that another dream?  ... one usually gets the reports done after an offer is made an accepted ... since a seller can only do that once, it is impossible to have 10 people asking for the same report, it is illegal for him to accept another offer after he has already accepted one .


Wouldn't it make more sense that the seller get one and make it available for any prospective purchaser ?
nope, you want it you pay ... as a seller I have no need for a report


What you and the corrupt real estate institute advocates is brain dead but you always whinge and whine about being short changed a few hundred bucks on a transaction that could be in the millions Sad

you do realise the money people pay for the house goes to the seller and not the agent don't you?  and since agents take their commission from the money before they hand over the moeny to the seller, I doubt there are many cases of someone being short changed .. we'll just notch that one up to another dream why don't we.


The whole real estate industry in australia is full of crooks after a slice of the action from doing little or no work and the government is just as guilty in perpetuating it Sad

little or no work? fine, get a job as a real estate agent . I'm betting you wouldn't last 6 months





so if I bid at an auction and get the house and then I waste money and get an architects report only to find out that it has lots of asbestos in it. I don't want the house now because I may want to do some renovations later on. If I had of known this I would never had bought the joint in the first place and saved time and money and looked for another place. Seems stupid and counter productive that you have to waste time and money when the seller could have provided this information in the first place ?

Typical scam operators in this country always looking to hoodwink people:(

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Reply #28 - Feb 17th, 2013 at 11:40am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 17th, 2013 at 10:21am:
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 9:30pm:
just as an after thought nail

you do realise that the agent works for the seller and not the buyer don't you?  you can of course hire a buyers agent to act on your behalf and look after your interests, but I'm betting you won't want to pay for it .


that's debatable. Many unscrupulous agents falsely quote just to sign the punters up to their books and then proceed to find anyone to buy it even if it means selling it a greatly reduced price. Agents are all in it for their comissions Sad


falsely quote what? I didn't realise they quoted for anything .... if you're referring to the price they esitmate your house should sell for, than thats an estimate based on recent sales activity in the area and contrary to what you believe, not guesswork based on their horoscope.. of course as every house is unique, it is only a guide... in the end the market will determine the price

Of course agents are in it for their commission .. I work for my income, not because I enjoy the crap that comes with it ... you work for your pay, as does everyone else who works .. if you didn't get paid you wouldn't do it

and what greatly reduced prices? weren't you whinging earlier that they sell at overinflated prices ... you're all over the shop and have no real line of thought other than to disagree .. you're just making it up as you go.
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Reply #29 - Feb 17th, 2013 at 11:44am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 17th, 2013 at 10:30am:
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 5:41pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 5:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Feb 16th, 2013 at 11:52am:
what has the agent to do with anything? Do you blame the sales girl at Hardly Normal when you buy a dodgy fridge? get real ... you just want to blame anyone and everyone for your problems ..... even if I own a termite infested dump, I am allowed to sell it for whatever the market is willing to pay for it, if you don't want a old termite infested dump don't buy it.  ... I personally wouldn't pay for a tattoo but i'm not about to blame tattoo artists if my son got a tattoo once he was old enough ... 

yes it is a case of buyer beware ... since you seem to be aware of the concept you have no reason to get stung ...


because they should do something for the money they get instead of telling lies and ripping people off.
your assuming that they lie ... based on what? a dream? How do they rip you off? you don't pay them the seller does. They do their job, which is to bring buyers and sellers together . You can always chose to go it alone ... you don't have to use an agent


Like I said why would ten interest parties each get an independent architects report on the one joint ?
because ten parties would not ..was that another dream?  ... one usually gets the reports done after an offer is made an accepted ... since a seller can only do that once, it is impossible to have 10 people asking for the same report, it is illegal for him to accept another offer after he has already accepted one .


Wouldn't it make more sense that the seller get one and make it available for any prospective purchaser ?
nope, you want it you pay ... as a seller I have no need for a report


What you and the corrupt real estate institute advocates is brain dead but you always whinge and whine about being short changed a few hundred bucks on a transaction that could be in the millions Sad

you do realise the money people pay for the house goes to the seller and not the agent don't you?  and since agents take their commission from the money before they hand over the moeny to the seller, I doubt there are many cases of someone being short changed .. we'll just notch that one up to another dream why don't we.


The whole real estate industry in australia is full of crooks after a slice of the action from doing little or no work and the government is just as guilty in perpetuating it Sad

little or no work? fine, get a job as a real estate agent . I'm betting you wouldn't last 6 months





so if I bid at an auction and get the house and then I waste money and get an architects report only to find out that it has lots of asbestos in it. I don't want the house now because I may want to do some renovations later on. If I had of known this I would never had bought the joint in the first place and saved time and money and looked for another place. Seems stupid and counter productive that you have to waste time and money when the seller could have provided this information in the first place ?

Typical scam operators in this country always looking to hoodwink people:(



I wasn't referring to auctions .. you don't like auctions don't buy at auction ... lots of properties for sale that don't go to auctions, with auctions you need to do your homework beforehand ... I personally have never bought at auction .. I don't like them.

in the case of auctions I would actually agree with you that it should be done beforehand and provided to all interested bidders ..
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