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Reply #60 - Jan 14^th, 2013 at 11:41am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 10:47am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 10:38am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 10:22am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 8:26am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2013 at 10:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13^th, 2013 at 5:11pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 13^th, 2013 at 5:08pm:

You just repeat the same thing again and again.

Yep, the truth.

And don't the AGW alarmists hate it. Wink

Do you say the same about people who accept gravity Gregerry?
After all - it is only a theory.

Or is this just something you have "faith" in?
I know that you have told us that you do not understand the science. It is only a faith issue for you.

I do not want to make fun of your religion.

those kinds of attempted comparisons is what makes you look so very silly. The existence of gravity is not in question.

Why isn't the existence of gravity in question?

Why do you blindly accept this theory, yet call people who understand the evidence which supports AGW "alarmists"? Is this your religion?

gold_medal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 8:26am:

The effect of gravity is very we defined. How it works is however a mystery..

No - it isn't a mystery. There is a theory to explain gravity which is supported by a lot of evidence. Just like AGW.
gold_medal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 8:26am:

ACC's existence and effect are in grave doubt.

What is this "grave doubt"?

Which part of the evidence supporting AGW is in "grave doubt"
Could you please identify this "grave doubt" for us?

we've been doing this for weeks now dumb-bunny. the 'grave doubt' is confirmed by 16 years of no warming and no more warming predicted. also the complete and absolute failure of all climate predictions and models.

Where did you get this idea that there has been "no warming for 16 years"?!?! That is nonsense.

Every single one of those 16 years has been warmer than the long term average. That is why the planet is warming.

THis is why global glacial mass balance continues to decrease. Because the planet continues to warm (I know that you lied about this previously. You have never explained why you lied about glaciers not receding, have you)

THis is why sea level continues to rise. Because the planet continues to warm.

THis is why the arctic ice cap continues to decrease. Because the planet continues to warm (I know that you lied about this previously too - some nonsense about undersea volcanos. You tell a lot of lies, don't you?)

THe planet continues to warm - particularly in the past 16 years. This is why 12 of the hottest years ever recorded have occurred in the past 16 years.

And who has predicted no more warming?
I have not heard of any such prediction from any reputable source

The UK Met predicts that warming will continue:
It says that the average temperature is likely to be 0.43 C above the long-term average by 2017

the same wank, different day. you simply are incapable of understanding an argument of any kind. temperatures HAVE stalled and even the science community is realising it. That you dont understand or accept it is of no interest to me. you are a flag-waving, cheer-leading hysteric. Thinking is not part of your profile.

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Re: Climate-Change Denial Feels The Heat.
Reply #62 - Jan 14^th, 2013 at 11:57am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 11:41am:

the same wank, different day. you simply are incapable of understanding an argument of any kind. temperatures HAVE stalled and even the science community is realising it. That you dont understand or accept it is of no interest to me. you are a flag-waving, cheer-leading hysteric. Thinking is not part of your profile.

Sad, but true.

The AGW hypothesis has degenerated into something resembling a religion.

The alarmists believe everything they've been told (without question) and there is nothing in the world that will make them consider any other possibility.

They've abandoned science and embraced faith.

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Reply #63 - Jan 14^th, 2013 at 12:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 11:21am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 9:25am:

Hardly the same.

Trying to compare the AGW hypothesis with the theory of gravity is quite possibly the most ludicrous diversion tactic the alarmists have come up with so far.

Why Greggery?

What is the difference?

Both are "just" theories.
Both could be wrong.

Why do you happily accept that evidence that supports the theory of gravity - but reject the evidence that supports the theory of AGW?

Please answer the question Greggery.

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Reply #65 - Jan 14^th, 2013 at 12:48pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 12:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 11:21am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 9:25am:

Hardly the same.

Trying to compare the AGW hypothesis with the theory of gravity is quite possibly the most ludicrous diversion tactic the alarmists have come up with so far.

Why Greggery?

What is the difference?

Both are "just" theories.
Both could be wrong.

Why do you happily accept that evidence that supports the theory of gravity - but reject the evidence that supports the theory of AGW?

Please answer the question Greggery.

There is no evidence to question gravity (unless you have some you can offer) but there is plenty of conjecture regarding anthropogenic global warming.
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Reply #66 - Jan 14^th, 2013 at 12:51pm

gold_medal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 11:41am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 10:47am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 10:38am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 10:22am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 8:26am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 13^th, 2013 at 10:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 13^th, 2013 at 5:11pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 13^th, 2013 at 5:08pm:

You just repeat the same thing again and again.

Yep, the truth.

And don't the AGW alarmists hate it. Wink

Do you say the same about people who accept gravity Gregerry?
After all - it is only a theory.

Or is this just something you have "faith" in?
I know that you have told us that you do not understand the science. It is only a faith issue for you.

I do not want to make fun of your religion.

those kinds of attempted comparisons is what makes you look so very silly. The existence of gravity is not in question.

Why isn't the existence of gravity in question?

Why do you blindly accept this theory, yet call people who understand the evidence which supports AGW "alarmists"? Is this your religion?

gold_medal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 8:26am:

The effect of gravity is very we defined. How it works is however a mystery..

No - it isn't a mystery. There is a theory to explain gravity which is supported by a lot of evidence. Just like AGW.
gold_medal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 8:26am:

ACC's existence and effect are in grave doubt.

What is this "grave doubt"?

Which part of the evidence supporting AGW is in "grave doubt"
Could you please identify this "grave doubt" for us?

we've been doing this for weeks now dumb-bunny. the 'grave doubt' is confirmed by 16 years of no warming and no more warming predicted. also the complete and absolute failure of all climate predictions and models.

Where did you get this idea that there has been "no warming for 16 years"?!?! That is nonsense.

Every single one of those 16 years has been warmer than the long term average. That is why the planet is warming.

THis is why global glacial mass balance continues to decrease. Because the planet continues to warm (I know that you lied about this previously. You have never explained why you lied about glaciers not receding, have you)

THis is why sea level continues to rise. Because the planet continues to warm.

THis is why the arctic ice cap continues to decrease. Because the planet continues to warm (I know that you lied about this previously too - some nonsense about undersea volcanos. You tell a lot of lies, don't you?)

THe planet continues to warm - particularly in the past 16 years. This is why 12 of the hottest years ever recorded have occurred in the past 16 years.

And who has predicted no more warming?
I have not heard of any such prediction from any reputable source

The UK Met predicts that warming will continue:
It says that the average temperature is likely to be 0.43 C above the long-term average by 2017

the same wank, different day. you simply are incapable of understanding an argument of any kind.

I certainly have difficulty understaning arguments based on lies.

Why did you write that glaciers are not receding? Are you ever going to tell us?
Why did you write that an undersea volcano is melting the arctic ice cap? Are you ever going to tell us?
Why did you write that the Doran 2009 received only 79 responses when the actual number was over 3000? Are you ever going to tell us?
Why did you write that the MWP was 4 degrees warmer globaly than today? Are you ever going to tell us?

If you didn't tell so many lies - people may be able to understand your arguments

gold_medal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 11:41am:

temperatures HAVE stalled and even the science community is realising it.

Are they!?!?!

Could you please show us a scientific paper that demontrates that " temperatures HAVE stalled".

I think what you really meant to say was - you have read an article by David Rose - and you were sucked in, hook, line and sinker.

THe planet is warming. THis is beyond doubt.

Every single one of the past 27 years has been warmer than the long term average.
The planet is warming.
The 12 hottest years ever recorded have occurred in the past 16 years.
The planet is warming.
Not only was 2012 that hottest year ever recorded in the USA - it was also the hottest La Nina year ever recorded globally.
The planet is warming.

Denying this is silly.
Denying this based on a retarded newspaper article by David Rose is even sillier.

gold_medal wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 11:41am:

That you dont understand or accept it is of no interest to me. you are a flag-waving, cheer-leading hysteric. Thinking is not part of your profile.

Any time you are ready to explain why you have been caught red-handed so many times telling lies - we are all ears.

Why did you write that glaciers are not receding? Are you ever going to tell us?
Why did you write that an undersea volcano is melting the arctic ice cap? Are you ever going to tell us?
Why did you write that the Doran 2009 received only 79 responses when the actual number was over 3000? Are you ever going to tell us?

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Re: Climate-Change Denial Feels The Heat.
Reply #67 - Jan 14^th, 2013 at 12:54pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 12:48pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 12:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 11:21am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 9:25am:

Hardly the same.

Trying to compare the AGW hypothesis with the theory of gravity is quite possibly the most ludicrous diversion tactic the alarmists have come up with so far.

Why Greggery?

What is the difference?

Both are "just" theories.
Both could be wrong.

Why do you happily accept that evidence that supports the theory of gravity - but reject the evidence that supports the theory of AGW?

Please answer the question Greggery.

There is no evidence to question gravity (unless you have some you can offer) but there is plenty of conjecture regarding anthropogenic global warming.
Sad

"Conjecture"?!?! No evidence then. Only "conjecture".

Is there any actual evidence that AGW is not occurring?
And if so - what is it?

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Reply #68 - Jan 14^th, 2013 at 12:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 11:21am:

To the alarmists' way of thinking you either believe in the AGW hypothesis 100% or you deny climate change altogether. Many of them have no understanding of scientific scepticism or the differences between climate change and AGW. Some even struggle to comprehend the difference between 'weather' and 'climate'. It's turned into a faith based religion with no basis (or interest) in scientific methods.

Errr...Greggery, what exactly IS this "AGW hypothesis" you keep talking about.

Could you tell us please

You see, tHis is the problem when you use words you do not understand Greggery. No one else knows WTF you are on about.

Please explain to us what you mean by "AGW hypothesis".

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Reply #69 - Jan 14^th, 2013 at 12:58pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 12:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 11:21am:

Swagman wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 9:25am:

Hardly the same.

Trying to compare the AGW hypothesis with the theory of gravity is quite possibly the most ludicrous diversion tactic the alarmists have come up with so far.

Why Greggery?

What is the difference?

Both are "just" theories.
Both could be wrong.

Why do you happily accept that evidence that supports the theory of gravity - but reject the evidence that supports the theory of AGW?

Please answer the question Greggery.

One has empirical evidence that is reproducable in every aspect. The other, co2, has not.

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Reply #70 - Jan 14^th, 2013 at 1:03pm

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 12:58pm:

One has empirical evidence that is reproducable in every aspect. The other, co2, has not.

I see. You will simply deny the existence of the vast amount of empirical evidence that supports the theory of AGW. Simply close your eyes and pretend it isn't there!

THis is why people call you a "denier".

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Reply #71 - Jan 14^th, 2013 at 1:04pm

Swagman wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 9:25am:

Hardly the same.

Obvious to most, but not all unfortunately.

Comparing the AGW hypothesis (and that's exactly what it is - a hypothesis) with the theory of gravity is quite possibly the most ludicrous diversion tactic the alarmists have come up with (apart from that juvenile Hitler comment).

And the funny thing is, even after this has been pointed out to these hysterical alarmists they still don't understand why their oversimplified comparison is so absurd.

The religion of 'The AGW Hypothesis Alarmists' is based on blind faith and very little else. As each day passes their "arguments" get weaker and weaker. I just hope they return to science one day and abandon this ridiculous cult.

While AGW is certainly a valid scientific hypothesis that needs to be continually tested, the alarmist cult associated with it is pure nonsense and it adds nothing worthwhile to the debate.

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Reply #72 - Jan 14^th, 2013 at 1:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 1:04pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 9:25am:

Hardly the same.

Obvious to most, but not all unfortunately.

Comparing the AGW hypothesis with the theory of gravity is quite possibly the most ludicrous diversion tactic the alarmists have come up

Why Greggery?

What is the difference?

Both are "just" theories.
Both could be wrong.

Why do you happily accept that evidence that supports the theory of gravity - but reject the evidence that supports the theory of AGW?

Please answer the question Greggery.

I have always had the courtesy to answer your questions Greggery. Why can't you do the same?

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Reply #73 - Jan 14^th, 2013 at 1:07pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 1:03pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 12:58pm:

One has empirical evidence that is reproducable in every aspect. The other, co2, has not.

I see. You will simply deny the existence of the vast amount of empirical evidence that supports the theory of AGW. Simply close your eyes and pretend it isn't there!

THis is why people call you a "denier".

What evidence. The evidence that temps could be up to and below about 1 degree C.

What alarm is in that.

The feedbacks are wrong which is the area of alarm you should be talking about, except you will not be talking about that for long when the real scientists shut you up.

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Reply #74 - Jan 14^th, 2013 at 1:08pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 1:06pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 1:04pm:

Swagman wrote on Jan 14^th, 2013 at 9:25am:

Hardly the same.

Obvious to most, but not all unfortunately.

Comparing the AGW hypothesis with the theory of gravity is quite possibly the most ludicrous diversion tactic the alarmists have come up

Why Greggery?

What is the difference?

Both are "just" theories.
Both could be wrong.

Why do you happily accept that evidence that supports the theory of gravity - but reject the evidence that supports the theory of AGW?

Please answer the question Greggery.

I have always had the courtesy to answer your questions Greggery. Why can't you do the same?

One has empirical evidence that is reproducable in every aspect. The other, co2, has not.

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