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Re: Climate-Change Denial Feels The Heat.
Reply #150 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 1:32pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 12:40pm:
Oh dear Greggery!  That is patheitic even by your standards!



No Bunny, it's just the truth.  However, you don't like the truth; we all know that. Hitler, gravity, lies, blah blah.

Anyway, here goes ...

Evidence exists.  I've always said that.  Check back over all of my posts in every single thread.  I've never denied that there is evidence to support the AGW hypothesis. Who would?!

What I HAVE said, is this: there's no credible reliable evidence to support the AGW hypothesis.

A big difference.

Here, this might help you:

"evidence: 1. A thing or things helpful in forming a conclusion or judgment: The broken window was evidence that a burglary had taken place. Scientists weigh the evidence for and against a hypothesis."

In the first example, the broken window can certainly be used as evidence to help show that a burglary took place, however, simply calling it evidence doesn't mean it's the actual truth.  It turns out that the window was actually broken by a kid throwing a ball in the street (there's an eye witnesses to this).  The eye witness is credible and reliable. The mere assumption that there was a burglary, based purely on a broken window, is not credible and reliable: it's just an assumption; an educated guess. 

The same goes for your AGW hypothesis: there may indeed be plenty of evidence out there (there is!), but it's not necessarily the truth.  To find the truth we need some credible reliable evidence.  So far, the AGW alarmists have just been standing around looking at the broken glass on the ground and yelling "burglary, burglary".  What they need to do is see if there are any kids hiding around the corner.  However, they simply refuse to look.  Wink

Understand?  Too subtle for you?





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Re: Climate-Change Denial Feels The Heat.
Reply #151 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:08pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:13am:
Sea rise 'not linked to warming', says report


THE latest science on sea level rises has found no link to global warming and no increase in the rate of glacier melt over the past 100 years.

"We need to move from fear-based to fact-based evidence," Dr Greene said. "We can trust the current models for the next 10 years, but there are problems after 15 years; sea level rises could be better or they could be worse."

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/sea-rise-not-linked-to-warmi...

Heh!!!

Great example!!

I hope all of your denier friends read that one closely - and use their "critical reasoning" to wonder why The Australian may want to deliberately deceive them.

The article you quote claimed that the" latest science on sea level rises has found no link to global warming " - and quoted one of the papers authors - Dr John Church.

And what did Dr John Church have to say about this?

Church, a sea level expert with the CSIRO, told a media conference today that was not an accurate description of the paper.

“So sea level clearly is linked to climate change, it is clearly linked to increases in greenhouse gases, and that’s actually in the paper which was quoted by The Australian. So the quote is, I’m sorry, inaccurate,” said Church, a co-ordinating lead author with the IPCC.

While The Australian claimed the paper had found no increase in the rate of sea level rise, Church said the paper showed the rate of sea level rise had increased between the 18th and 19th centuries, and research showed a further acceleration of the rate during the 20th century.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/01/15/ipcc-chief-calls-for-sane-voices-in-local-cl...

This is the sort of stuff that gets you in hook, line and sinker isn't it!!!
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Re: Climate-Change Denial Feels The Heat.
Reply #152 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:11pm
 
gold_medal wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 2:02pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 12:47pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 7:54am:
MET office are frauds

The MET lying to people
1. “… [F]or Mr. Rose to suggest that the latest global temperatures available show no warming in the last 15 years is entirely misleading.”

2. “What is absolutely clear is that we have continued to see a trend of warming …”.

3. “The linear trend from August 1997 (in the middle of an exceptionally strong El Niño) to August 2012 (coming at the tail end of a double-dip La Niña) is about 0.03 C°/decade …”.

4. “Each of the top ten warmest years have occurred in the last decade.”

5. “The models exhibit large variations in the rate of warming … so … such a period [15 years without warming] is not unexpected. It is not uncommon in the simulations for these periods to last up to 15 years, but longer periods are unlikely.”

Each of the assertions enumerated above was calculated to deceive. Each assertion is a lie. It is a lie told for financial advantage. M’lud, let me take each assertion in turn and briefly outline the evidence.

The METS BS exposed
1. The assertion that Mr Rose was “entirely misleading” to say there had been no global warming for 15 years is not just entirely misleading: it is entirely false. The least-squares linear-regression trend on the global temperature data is statistically indistinguishable from zero for 18 years (HadCRUt4), or 19 years (HadCRUt3), or even 23 years (RSS).

2. What is absolutely clear is that the assertion that “it is absolutely clear that we have continued to see a trend of warming” is absolutely, clearly false. The assertion is timescale-dependent. The Met Office justified it by noting that each of the last n decades was warmer than the decade that preceded it. A simple heuristic will demonstrate the dishonesty of this argument. Take a two-decade period. In each of years 1-2, the world warms by 0.05 Cº. In each of years 3-20, the world does not warm at all. Sure, the second decade will be warmer than the first. But global warming will still have stopped for 18 years. By making comparisons on timescales longer than the 18 years without warming, what we are seeing is long-past warming, not a continuing “trend of warming”.

3. In August 1997 global temperatures were not “in the middle of an exceptionally strong El Niño”: they were in transition, about halfway between La Niña (cooler than normal) and El Niño (warmer than normal) conditions. Likewise, temperatures in August 2012 were not “at the tail-end of a double-dip La Niña”: they were plainly again in transition between the La Niña of 2011/12 and the El Niño due in a year or two.

4. The Met Office’s assertion that each of the past ten years has been in the top ten is dataset-dependent. On most datasets, 1998 was the warmest year on the global instrumental record (which only began 160-odd years ago). Therefore, on these datasets, it cannot have been possible for each of the last ten years to be among the warmest on record.

5. Finally, the Met Office shoots itself in the foot by implicitly admitting that there has been a 15-year period without warming, saying that such a period is “not unexpected”. Yet that period was not “expected” by any of the dozens of lavishly-funded computer models that have been enriching their operators – including the Met Office, whose new computer cost gazillions and has the carbon footprint of a small town every time it is switched on. The NOAA’s State of the Climate report in 2008 said this: “Near-zero and even negative trends are common for intervals of a decade or less in the simulations, due to the model’s internal climate variability. The simulations rule out (at the 95% level) zero trends for intervals of 15 years or more, suggesting that an observed absence of warming of this duration is needed to create a discrepancy with the expected present-day warming rate.”

27 consecutive years of global temperatures above the long term average - and you still desperately cling to your silly Daily Mail article!!!

If the earth is not warming:
Why is global glacial mass balance decreasing?
Why are sea levels rising?
Why is the arctic ice cap decreasing?
Why has there been an increase in the frequency of extreme weather events?

What is the cause of these observed phenomena if - as you and David Rose claim - the earth is not warming?


'above the long term average' doesnt mean 'still increasing'. in fact, it can even be true if temperatures were dropping. do you have any edcuation in maths or statistics beyond year 9?

Gold Medal is examining rates of change, lol!


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Re: Climate-Change Denial Feels The Heat.
Reply #153 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:14pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:08pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:13am:
Sea rise 'not linked to warming', says report


THE latest science on sea level rises has found no link to global warming and no increase in the rate of glacier melt over the past 100 years.

"We need to move from fear-based to fact-based evidence," Dr Greene said. "We can trust the current models for the next 10 years, but there are problems after 15 years; sea level rises could be better or they could be worse."

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/sea-rise-not-linked-to-warmi...

Heh!!!

Great example!!

I hope all of your denier friends read that one closely - and use their "critical reasoning" to wonder why The Australian may want to deliberately deceive them.

The article you quote claimed that the" latest science on sea level rises has found no link to global warming " - and quoted one of the papers authors - Dr John Church.

And what did Dr John Church have to say about this?

Church, a sea level expert with the CSIRO, told a media conference today that was not an accurate description of the paper.

“So sea level clearly is linked to climate change, it is clearly linked to increases in greenhouse gases, and that’s actually in the paper which was quoted by The Australian. So the quote is, I’m sorry, inaccurate,” said Church, a co-ordinating lead author with the IPCC.

While The Australian claimed the paper had found no increase in the rate of sea level rise, Church said the paper showed the rate of sea level rise had increased between the 18th and 19th centuries, and research showed a further acceleration of the rate during the 20th century.


This is the sort of stuff that gets you in hook, line and sinker isn't it!!!

WATCH OUT MR RABBIT OR THEY'LL SWITCH TO A FULL BLOWN PINK BATTS ASSAULT TO SAVE FACE !!

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Re: Climate-Change Denial Feels The Heat.
Reply #154 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:15pm
 
Swagman wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 1:02pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 12:49pm:
Swagman wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 7:49am:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:50am:
Why do you consider the evidence that supports gravity to be credible  and convincing, but not the evidence that supports AGW?


That goes for you as well Rabbit.

You ignore the fact that there is much more scientific dissent regarding AGWT than the gravitation theory.

The two theories (AGWT / Gravitation) are streets apart when it comes to plausibility.

When you can show us some scientific papers that outline this " scientific dissent" - I will be happy to read them.


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http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/journals/ci/31/special/may01_viewpoint.html

Reply # 40

Reply # 88

Reply # 111

http://www.co2web.info/

I wrote:

When you can show us some scientific papers that outline this " scientific dissent" - I will be happy to read them.

Your denier blogs hardly fit that description now, do they
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Re: Climate-Change Denial Feels The Heat.
Reply #155 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:15pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:08pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:13am:
Sea rise 'not linked to warming', says report


THE latest science on sea level rises has found no link to global warming and no increase in the rate of glacier melt over the past 100 years.

"We need to move from fear-based to fact-based evidence," Dr Greene said. "We can trust the current models for the next 10 years, but there are problems after 15 years; sea level rises could be better or they could be worse."

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/sea-rise-not-linked-to-warmi...

Heh!!!

Great example!!

I hope all of your denier friends read that one closely - and use their "critical reasoning" to wonder why The Australian may want to deliberately deceive them.

The article you quote claimed that the" latest science on sea level rises has found no link to global warming " - and quoted one of the papers authors - Dr John Church.

And what did Dr John Church have to say about this?

Church, a sea level expert with the CSIRO, told a media conference today that was not an accurate description of the paper.

“So sea level clearly is linked to climate change, it is clearly linked to increases in greenhouse gases, and that’s actually in the paper which was quoted by The Australian. So the quote is, I’m sorry, inaccurate,” said Church, a co-ordinating lead author with the IPCC.

While The Australian claimed the paper had found no increase in the rate of sea level rise, Church said the paper showed the rate of sea level rise had increased between the 18th and 19th centuries, and research showed a further acceleration of the rate during the 20th century.


This is the sort of stuff that gets you in hook, line and sinker isn't it!!!

Due to natural and no accelerated rise. Not due to co2.

Keep trying.
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Re: Climate-Change Denial Feels The Heat.
Reply #156 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:18pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:15pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:08pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:13am:
Sea rise 'not linked to warming', says report


THE latest science on sea level rises has found no link to global warming and no increase in the rate of glacier melt over the past 100 years.

"We need to move from fear-based to fact-based evidence," Dr Greene said. "We can trust the current models for the next 10 years, but there are problems after 15 years; sea level rises could be better or they could be worse."

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/sea-rise-not-linked-to-warmi...

Heh!!!

Great example!!

I hope all of your denier friends read that one closely - and use their "critical reasoning" to wonder why The Australian may want to deliberately deceive them.

The article you quote claimed that the" latest science on sea level rises has found no link to global warming " - and quoted one of the papers authors - Dr John Church.

And what did Dr John Church have to say about this?

Church, a sea level expert with the CSIRO, told a media conference today that was not an accurate description of the paper.

“So sea level clearly is linked to climate change, it is clearly linked to increases in greenhouse gases, and that’s actually in the paper which was quoted by The Australian. So the quote is, I’m sorry, inaccurate,” said Church, a co-ordinating lead author with the IPCC.

While The Australian claimed the paper had found no increase in the rate of sea level rise, Church said the paper showed the rate of sea level rise had increased between the 18th and 19th centuries, and research showed a further acceleration of the rate during the 20th century.


This is the sort of stuff that gets you in hook, line and sinker isn't it!!!

Due to natural and no accelerated rise. Not due to co2.

Keep trying.

Don't tell me .  Tell Dr John Church.  The author of the paper that was misquoted by The Australian.

You have been sucked in big time.
The Australian wrote crap.  ANd YOU FELL FOR IT.
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Re: Climate-Change Denial Feels The Heat.
Reply #157 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:21pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:18pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:15pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:08pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:13am:
Sea rise 'not linked to warming', says report


THE latest science on sea level rises has found no link to global warming and no increase in the rate of glacier melt over the past 100 years.

"We need to move from fear-based to fact-based evidence," Dr Greene said. "We can trust the current models for the next 10 years, but there are problems after 15 years; sea level rises could be better or they could be worse."

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/sea-rise-not-linked-to-warmi...

Heh!!!

Great example!!

I hope all of your denier friends read that one closely - and use their "critical reasoning" to wonder why The Australian may want to deliberately deceive them.

The article you quote claimed that the" latest science on sea level rises has found no link to global warming " - and quoted one of the papers authors - Dr John Church.

And what did Dr John Church have to say about this?

Church, a sea level expert with the CSIRO, told a media conference today that was not an accurate description of the paper.

“So sea level clearly is linked to climate change, it is clearly linked to increases in greenhouse gases, and that’s actually in the paper which was quoted by The Australian. So the quote is, I’m sorry, inaccurate,” said Church, a co-ordinating lead author with the IPCC.

While The Australian claimed the paper had found no increase in the rate of sea level rise, Church said the paper showed the rate of sea level rise had increased between the 18th and 19th centuries, and research showed a further acceleration of the rate during the 20th century.


This is the sort of stuff that gets you in hook, line and sinker isn't it!!!

Due to natural and no accelerated rise. Not due to co2.

Keep trying.

Don't tell me .  Tell Dr John Church.  The author of the paper that was misquoted by The Australian.

You have been sucked in big time.
The Australian wrote crap.  ANd YOU FELL FOR IT.

You dont even link to anything and your word is shite around here. Maybe you had better run along and link to what you are talking about, in a direct way.
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Reply #158 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:22pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 2:10pm:
Australia – was hot and is hot. So what? This is not an unusual heat-wave


The media are in overdrive, making out that “the extreme heat is the new normal” in Australia. The Great Australian Heatwave of January 2013 didn’t push the mercury above 50C at any weather station in Australia, yet it’s been 50C (122F) and hotter in many inland towns across Australia over the past century. See how many are in the late 1800′s and early to mid 1900′s. You can’t blame those high records on man made global warming.  [feel free to post some old records of your own and the source reference we can check and we will update the map]

http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/maps/australia-map-heat-waves-5-web.gif

more
http://joannenova.com.au/2013/01/australia-was-hot-and-is-hot-so-what-this-is-no...

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Reply #159 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:24pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:21pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:18pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:15pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:08pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:13am:
Sea rise 'not linked to warming', says report


THE latest science on sea level rises has found no link to global warming and no increase in the rate of glacier melt over the past 100 years.

"We need to move from fear-based to fact-based evidence," Dr Greene said. "We can trust the current models for the next 10 years, but there are problems after 15 years; sea level rises could be better or they could be worse."

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/sea-rise-not-linked-to-warmi...

Heh!!!

Great example!!

I hope all of your denier friends read that one closely - and use their "critical reasoning" to wonder why The Australian may want to deliberately deceive them.

The article you quote claimed that the" latest science on sea level rises has found no link to global warming " - and quoted one of the papers authors - Dr John Church.

And what did Dr John Church have to say about this?

Church, a sea level expert with the CSIRO, told a media conference today that was not an accurate description of the paper.

“So sea level clearly is linked to climate change, it is clearly linked to increases in greenhouse gases, and that’s actually in the paper which was quoted by The Australian. So the quote is, I’m sorry, inaccurate,” said Church, a co-ordinating lead author with the IPCC.

While The Australian claimed the paper had found no increase in the rate of sea level rise, Church said the paper showed the rate of sea level rise had increased between the 18th and 19th centuries, and research showed a further acceleration of the rate during the 20th century.


This is the sort of stuff that gets you in hook, line and sinker isn't it!!!

Due to natural and no accelerated rise. Not due to co2.

Keep trying.

Don't tell me .  Tell Dr John Church.  The author of the paper that was misquoted by The Australian.

You have been sucked in big time.
The Australian wrote crap.  ANd YOU FELL FOR IT.

You dont even link to anything and your word is shite around here. Maybe you had better run along and link to what you are talking about, in a direct way.

Ha ha ha!!!

You fell for the crap in The Australian

HOOK, LINE and SINKER!!!!!

Nice work Mr Gullible!!


“So sea level clearly is linked to climate change, it is clearly linked to increases in greenhouse gases, and that’s actually in the paper which was quoted by The Australian. So the quote is, I’m sorry, inaccurate,”

http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/01/15/ipcc-chief-calls-for-sane-voices-in-local-cl...
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Reply #160 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:24pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:21pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:18pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:15pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:08pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:13am:
Sea rise 'not linked to warming', says report


THE latest science on sea level rises has found no link to global warming and no increase in the rate of glacier melt over the past 100 years.

"We need to move from fear-based to fact-based evidence," Dr Greene said. "We can trust the current models for the next 10 years, but there are problems after 15 years; sea level rises could be better or they could be worse."

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/sea-rise-not-linked-to-warmi...

Heh!!!

Great example!!

I hope all of your denier friends read that one closely - and use their "critical reasoning" to wonder why The Australian may want to deliberately deceive them.

The article you quote claimed that the" latest science on sea level rises has found no link to global warming " - and quoted one of the papers authors - Dr John Church.

And what did Dr John Church have to say about this?

Church, a sea level expert with the CSIRO, told a media conference today that was not an accurate description of the paper.

“So sea level clearly is linked to climate change, it is clearly linked to increases in greenhouse gases, and that’s actually in the paper which was quoted by The Australian. So the quote is, I’m sorry, inaccurate,” said Church, a co-ordinating lead author with the IPCC.

While The Australian claimed the paper had found no increase in the rate of sea level rise, Church said the paper showed the rate of sea level rise had increased between the 18th and 19th centuries, and research showed a further acceleration of the rate during the 20th century.


This is the sort of stuff that gets you in hook, line and sinker isn't it!!!

Due to natural and no accelerated rise. Not due to co2.

Keep trying.

Don't tell me .  Tell Dr John Church.  The author of the paper that was misquoted by The Australian.

You have been sucked in big time.
The Australian wrote crap.  ANd YOU FELL FOR IT.

You dont even link to anything and your word is shite around here. Maybe you had better run along and link to what you are talking about, in a direct way.

...dood!!!, the two year old girl down the street is more informed than you!!
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Re: Climate-Change Denial Feels The Heat.
Reply #161 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:26pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:24pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:21pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:18pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:15pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:08pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:13am:
Sea rise 'not linked to warming', says report


THE latest science on sea level rises has found no link to global warming and no increase in the rate of glacier melt over the past 100 years.

"We need to move from fear-based to fact-based evidence," Dr Greene said. "We can trust the current models for the next 10 years, but there are problems after 15 years; sea level rises could be better or they could be worse."

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/health-science/sea-rise-not-linked-to-warmi...

Heh!!!

Great example!!

I hope all of your denier friends read that one closely - and use their "critical reasoning" to wonder why The Australian may want to deliberately deceive them.

The article you quote claimed that the" latest science on sea level rises has found no link to global warming " - and quoted one of the papers authors - Dr John Church.

And what did Dr John Church have to say about this?

Church, a sea level expert with the CSIRO, told a media conference today that was not an accurate description of the paper.

“So sea level clearly is linked to climate change, it is clearly linked to increases in greenhouse gases, and that’s actually in the paper which was quoted by The Australian. So the quote is, I’m sorry, inaccurate,” said Church, a co-ordinating lead author with the IPCC.

While The Australian claimed the paper had found no increase in the rate of sea level rise, Church said the paper showed the rate of sea level rise had increased between the 18th and 19th centuries, and research showed a further acceleration of the rate during the 20th century.


This is the sort of stuff that gets you in hook, line and sinker isn't it!!!

Due to natural and no accelerated rise. Not due to co2.

Keep trying.

Don't tell me .  Tell Dr John Church.  The author of the paper that was misquoted by The Australian.

You have been sucked in big time.
The Australian wrote crap.  ANd YOU FELL FOR IT.

You dont even link to anything and your word is shite around here. Maybe you had better run along and link to what you are talking about, in a direct way.

Ha ha ha!!!

You fell for the crap in The Australian

HOOK, LINE and SINKER!!!!!

Nice work Mr Gullible!!


“So sea level clearly is linked to climate change, it is clearly linked to increases in greenhouse gases, and that’s actually in the paper which was quoted by The Australian. So the quote is, I’m sorry, inaccurate,”

http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/01/15/ipcc-chief-calls-for-sane-voices-in-local-cl...

That is not directly

You are full of BS and have the hide to ask for links from other people in a thread just 5 minutes ago.

Quote:
clearly linked to increases in greenhouse gases
Yeh sure, just link that in the actual report and ill be on my way.
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Re: Climate-Change Denial Feels The Heat.
Reply #162 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:31pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:26pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:24pm:
Ha ha ha!!!

You fell for the crap in The Australian

HOOK, LINE and SINKER!!!!!

Nice work Mr Gullible!!


“So sea level clearly is linked to climate change, it is clearly linked to increases in greenhouse gases, and that’s actually in the paper which was quoted by The Australian. So the quote is, I’m sorry, inaccurate,”

http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/01/15/ipcc-chief-calls-for-sane-voices-in-local-cl...

That is not directly

You are full of BS and have the hide to ask for links from other people in a thread just 5 minutes ago.

That is a direct quote.  See the quotation marks?

Do you not like the source?  Do you think that Crikey is lying about what the Dr said?

OK - let's check back to what The Australian wrote today shall we?

CSIRO scientist Dr John Church, regarded as Australia's leading authority on sea level and climate change, said they were clearly connected.

"It is clearly linked to increases in greenhouse gases," he said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/sea-level-rise-linked-to-clim...

Big back-peddle from The Aus there!!!

But you fell for the original lie HOOK, LINE and SINKER!!!!

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Re: Climate-Change Denial Feels The Heat.
Reply #163 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:33pm
 
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:31pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:26pm:
rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:24pm:
Ha ha ha!!!

You fell for the crap in The Australian

HOOK, LINE and SINKER!!!!!

Nice work Mr Gullible!!


“So sea level clearly is linked to climate change, it is clearly linked to increases in greenhouse gases, and that’s actually in the paper which was quoted by The Australian. So the quote is, I’m sorry, inaccurate,”

http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/01/15/ipcc-chief-calls-for-sane-voices-in-local-cl...

That is not directly

You are full of BS and have the hide to ask for links from other people in a thread just 5 minutes ago.

That is a direct quote.  See the quotation marks?

Do you not like the source?  Do you think that Crikey is lying about what the Dr said?

OK - let's check back to what The Australian wrote today shall we?

CSIRO scientist Dr John Church, regarded as Australia's leading authority on sea level and climate change, said they were clearly connected.

"It is clearly linked to increases in greenhouse gases," he said.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/sea-level-rise-linked-to-clim...

Big back-peddle from The Aus there!!!

But you fell for the original lie HOOK, LINE and SINKER!!!!

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

No, you made out like it was in the peer-reviewed paper. So show us it is in the paper. I bet you cant, but being lied to by the IPCC and crikey, is par for the course.

I see, it wasnt in the paper was it, it was just later said because of pressure.
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Re: Climate-Change Denial Feels The Heat.
Reply #164 - Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:35pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 6:33pm:
No, you made out like it was in the peer-reviewed paper. So show us it is in the paper. I bet you cant, but being lied to by the IPCC and crikey, is par for the course.


One of the authors of the paper said:

“So sea level clearly is linked to climate change, it is clearly linked to increases in greenhouse gases, and
that’s actually in the paper which was quoted by The Australian
. So the quote is, I’m sorry, inaccurate,”


Are you now accusing the papers author of lying about his own work!?!?!?!
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