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Reply #390 - Jan 21^st, 2013 at 11:29pm

MOTR wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 11:16pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 8:10pm:

Here is something else for you MOTR.

nights are getting hotter therefore AGW

Not any more. That saying is dead in the water.

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A relatively small change in the average temperature can easily double the frequency of extreme heat events. Australia has warmed steadily since the 1940s, and the probability of extreme heat has now increased almost five-fold compared with 50 years ago.

Within the past decade, the number of extreme heat records in Australia has outnumbered extreme cold records by almost 3:1 for daytime maximum temperatures and 5:1 for night-time minimum temperature.

The duration of heat waves has increased in some parts, especially in the northern half of the continent. Put another way, the frequency of abnormally hot days (above the 90th percentile) has increased by 30% and the frequency of hot nights (above the 90th percentile) has increased by 50%.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2013/jan/21/what-is-causing-australia...

You still haven't given this one a go yet.

It says it all in its first paragraph, well almost all but leaves out some of what Isaid

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Australia has started 2013 with a record-breaking heat wave that has lasted more than two weeks across many parts of the country. Temperatures have regularly gone above 48°C, with the highest recorded maximum of 49.6°C at Moomba in South Australia. The extreme conditions have been associated with a delayed onset of the Australian monsoon, and slow moving weather systems over the continent.

Yes, the overall coverage of the high right accross Australia and it slow movement, coupled with the tropical low staying off Australia and the lower jetstream keeping off Australia.

Not unusual at all under the conditions.

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Reply #391 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 1:12am

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 10:20pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 9:53pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 8:56pm:

Funny how Australia goes through a pretty normal heat wave. Hot, but not abnormal given the reasons for it. The high covering the country. The tropical low staying above Australia instead of around the 3/4 mark over Australia and the lower jetstream staying off of Australia which usually spikes up and down midway through Australia.

Now England are talking about a mini-ice age. But dont be fooled. The doomsday cult are here to tell you that heat causes cold. Warmer makes it colder. They will not tell you it is because of the jetstream shift or a non-active sun, but warmer makes it colder.

It’s snowing, and it really feels like the start of a mini ice age
Something is up with our winter weather. Could it be the Sun is having a slow patch?

By Boris Johnson

Firstly, it’s not just anyone, but Boris Johnson, Mayor of London, personality, and potential Tory leader in the UK. (He’s got so much potential several Tories in safe seats have offered to resign to let him run.) Secondly, he’s confident, brazen and unapologetic. There are not many of the usual duck-and-cover caveats (only lip-service ones), and no bowing to the bullies who will call him names rather than discuss the ideas.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/9814618/Its-snowing-a...

Goodness!!! So this is Boris Johnson's take on things!!! Thank you so much for sharing.

What does Lady Ga-Ga have to say about the issue? Have your read Warnie's latest paper? It is marvellous!!

Moron.

Not my problem you dont know who Boris is. I share it because you may want to keep an eye on who influences the UK in the not too distant future. Grin

I would give you the moron finger, but you are much worse than that. You being a doomsday cult lemming is a given in the moron stakes, but you are almost up the A of the leader you are that taken in.

I 'm not sure if you should be accusing anyone of being "taken in". It was you that was sucked in hook, like and sinker by the fake story in The Australian last week. Remember?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1358024959/113#113

Do you have any more wonderful stories from The Australian to share with us?

I notice you have neglected to post the retraction The Aus printed.

Luckily MOTR did it for you - it appears you lack sufficient honesty to do it yourself

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1358024959/221#221

But please - do keep us up to date on Boris' thoughts on the subject. That is truly fascinating.

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Reply #392 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 4:44am

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 11:29pm:

MOTR wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 11:16pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 8:10pm:

Here is something else for you MOTR.

nights are getting hotter therefore AGW

Not any more. That saying is dead in the water.

Quote:

A relatively small change in the average temperature can easily double the frequency of extreme heat events. Australia has warmed steadily since the 1940s, and the probability of extreme heat has now increased almost five-fold compared with 50 years ago.

Within the past decade, the number of extreme heat records in Australia has outnumbered extreme cold records by almost 3:1 for daytime maximum temperatures and 5:1 for night-time minimum temperature.

The duration of heat waves has increased in some parts, especially in the northern half of the continent. Put another way, the frequency of abnormally hot days (above the 90th percentile) has increased by 30% and the frequency of hot nights (above the 90th percentile) has increased by 50%.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2013/jan/21/what-is-causing-australia...

You still haven't given this one a go yet.

It says it all in its first paragraph, well almost all but leaves out some of what Isaid

Quote:

Australia has started 2013 with a record-breaking heat wave that has lasted more than two weeks across many parts of the country. Temperatures have regularly gone above 48°C, with the highest recorded maximum of 49.6°C at Moomba in South Australia. The extreme conditions have been associated with a delayed onset of the Australian monsoon, and slow moving weather systems over the continent.

Yes, the overall coverage of the high right accross Australia and it slow movement, coupled with the tropical low staying off Australia and the lower jetstream keeping off Australia.

Not unusual at all under the conditions.

All sorts of things will shift the heat around, progs. No doubt there has been a delay in the onset of the monsoon in previous years. The difference today is that there is more heat in the system. There are going to be plenty more of these record breaking events in the next five years, I look forward to watching you find unique ways to write them off.

That's right, progs, despite the 16 year "pause" in global warming, within the past decade, the number of extreme heat records in Australia has outnumbered extreme cold records by almost 3:1 for daytime maximum temperatures and 5:1 for night-time minimum temperature.

I guess we can call it the Claytons pause, the pause you have when you're not having a pause.

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Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings

"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."

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Reply #393 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 5:05am

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 10:50pm:

MOTR wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 10:29pm:

What makes Boris an expert on climate, progs? Is he a scientist? Margaret Thatcher knew a thing or two about science, she was actually a chemist and apparently an alarmist and a cultist. Wink

Hang on! Boris might be a cult member as well.

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Greater London is home to around 7,556,9001 people who are spread across 607 square miles. This means it has one of the highest concentrations of electricity demand and CO2 emissions in Great Britain. The Capital also has the UK’s toughest targets to reduce carbon. As a result, the Mayor and the London Development Agency (the LDA) have committed to reduce London’s carbon by 60% by 2025.

These are ambitious targets and to tackle them as well as possible, London has become a test-bed for an urban low-carbon project.

‘Low Carbon London’ will run until June 2014 and features all kinds of initiatives. For example, energy saving measures are being applied to 70% of London’s housing; and, through a ‘Responsible Procurement Strategy’, energy efficiency will be showcased through the Greater London Authority Group’s 8,000 vehicles and 900 buildings.

Transport will play a major role as it is a huge contributor to CO2 emissions. Londoners will be encouraged to move around quickly and easily using low carbon forms of transport, such as electric vehicles, hybrid buses and bicycles.

As well as saving energy, it’s about generating it. The Mayor has a London Plan which is a strategy for improving people’s quality of life in the city. The plan has set a target for 2025, where 25% of its energy needs will be met mainly by generating electricity on a local level. It’s far less wasteful to create energy locally than to transfer it from a power station, miles away.

A Green Enterprise District is being created across east London to help the City become a global leader in the low carbon economy. Spanning the boroughs of Hackney, Tower Hamlets, Newham, Waltham Forest, Barking and Dagenham and Havering, the scheme will create 6,000 jobs and help to ‘regenerate one of the most deprived areas in the capital’2 .
The Government will get together with businesses and local communities to save carbon and show what can be achieved.

The Mayor will be working with partners to see if there are any skills shortages which could delay moves to a low carbon future. 17 London universities, who focus on climate change research, have signed up to help.

“I want London to be ahead of the queue, grasping a significant share of the jobs and economic booty arising from this new generation of low carbon goods and services.”

Pity some of our leaders are hell bent on putting us at the back of the queue.

Boris couldnt be a cultist. His mind is too open.

What about Barack Obama, is he a cultist. Looks like right around the world, leaders are realising the importance of staying ahead of the curve. Except our Tony. Cry

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"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."

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Reply #394 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:16am

MOTR wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 10:29pm:

What makes Boris an expert on climate, progs? Is he a scientist? Margaret Thatcher knew a thing or two about science, she was actually a chemist and apparently an alarmist and a cultist. Wink

Hang on! Boris might be a cult member as well.

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Greater London is home to around 7,556,9001 people who are spread across 607 square miles. This means it has one of the highest concentrations of electricity demand and CO2 emissions in Great Britain. The Capital also has the UK’s toughest targets to reduce carbon. As a result, the Mayor and the London Development Agency (the LDA) have committed to reduce London’s carbon by 60% by 2025.

These are ambitious targets and to tackle them as well as possible, London has become a test-bed for an urban low-carbon project.

‘Low Carbon London’ will run until June 2014 and features all kinds of initiatives. For example, energy saving measures are being applied to 70% of London’s housing; and, through a ‘Responsible Procurement Strategy’, energy efficiency will be showcased through the Greater London Authority Group’s 8,000 vehicles and 900 buildings.

Transport will play a major role as it is a huge contributor to CO2 emissions. Londoners will be encouraged to move around quickly and easily using low carbon forms of transport, such as electric vehicles, hybrid buses and bicycles.

As well as saving energy, it’s about generating it. The Mayor has a London Plan which is a strategy for improving people’s quality of life in the city. The plan has set a target for 2025, where 25% of its energy needs will be met mainly by generating electricity on a local level. It’s far less wasteful to create energy locally than to transfer it from a power station, miles away.

A Green Enterprise District is being created across east London to help the City become a global leader in the low carbon economy. Spanning the boroughs of Hackney, Tower Hamlets, Newham, Waltham Forest, Barking and Dagenham and Havering, the scheme will create 6,000 jobs and help to ‘regenerate one of the most deprived areas in the capital’2 .
The Government will get together with businesses and local communities to save carbon and show what can be achieved.

The Mayor will be working with partners to see if there are any skills shortages which could delay moves to a low carbon future. 17 London universities, who focus on climate change research, have signed up to help.

“I want London to be ahead of the queue, grasping a significant share of the jobs and economic booty arising from this new generation of low carbon goods and services.”

Pity some of our leaders are hell bent on putting us at the back of the queue.

You quote Thatcher??? ah of course... she agrees with you and that is what your side calls evidence...

yeah right.

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Reply #395 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:18am

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 11:22pm:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2013 at 8:37am:

MOTR wrote on Jan 12^th, 2013 at 8:23am:

cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2013 at 8:11am:

MOTR wrote on Jan 12^th, 2013 at 8:01am:

cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2013 at 7:53am:

oh go away..

http://chechar.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/human-ostrich.gif

Hear no warming, see no warming, hey cods.

it goes both ways MOTR... why arent you out putting fires out???...before the demon climate burns us all to death..

I'm not trained to put out fires, cods.

But you are right, global warming will increase the risk of bush fires.

even though it has done no such thing?

But I do love how weather-climate today but not last year when we had very cool weather and probably wont be next year when it is cooler again.

this is why we can take you climate hysterics seriously. you change the rules according to what happened because you can never predict what WILL happen.

it predicts that the planet is warming. Enough said !!

If you expect a prediction of a certain temperature at a certain time and location then go and piss off. It's not about that. How many times do you have to be told that climate change is about the underlying temperature trends. Try studying the law of averages which you should have learned if you really did have a science degree.

hey dumbnail.... no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least. that makes 20 years of no warming. even a dunce like you should be able to work out what the 'underlying trend' is.

NO GLOBAL WARMING.

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Reply #396 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:22am

MOTR wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 4:44am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 11:29pm:

MOTR wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 11:16pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 8:10pm:

Here is something else for you MOTR.

nights are getting hotter therefore AGW

Not any more. That saying is dead in the water.

Quote:

A relatively small change in the average temperature can easily double the frequency of extreme heat events. Australia has warmed steadily since the 1940s, and the probability of extreme heat has now increased almost five-fold compared with 50 years ago.

Within the past decade, the number of extreme heat records in Australia has outnumbered extreme cold records by almost 3:1 for daytime maximum temperatures and 5:1 for night-time minimum temperature.

The duration of heat waves has increased in some parts, especially in the northern half of the continent. Put another way, the frequency of abnormally hot days (above the 90th percentile) has increased by 30% and the frequency of hot nights (above the 90th percentile) has increased by 50%.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2013/jan/21/what-is-causing-australia...

You still haven't given this one a go yet.

It says it all in its first paragraph, well almost all but leaves out some of what Isaid

Quote:

Australia has started 2013 with a record-breaking heat wave that has lasted more than two weeks across many parts of the country. Temperatures have regularly gone above 48°C, with the highest recorded maximum of 49.6°C at Moomba in South Australia. The extreme conditions have been associated with a delayed onset of the Australian monsoon, and slow moving weather systems over the continent.

Yes, the overall coverage of the high right accross Australia and it slow movement, coupled with the tropical low staying off Australia and the lower jetstream keeping off Australia.

Not unusual at all under the conditions.

All sorts of things will shift the heat around, progs. No doubt there has been a delay in the onset of the monsoon in previous years. The difference today is that there is more heat in the system. There are going to be plenty more of these record breaking events in the next five years, I look forward to watching you find unique ways to write them off.

That's right, progs, despite the 16 year "pause" in global warming, within the past decade, the number of extreme heat records in Australia has outnumbered extreme cold records by almost 3:1 for daytime maximum temperatures and 5:1 for night-time minimum temperature.

I guess we can call it the Claytons pause, the pause you have when you're not having a pause.

well at least you finally admit that there IS a pause. its the first step to recovery

these 'extreme heat' records are very poorly defined. hey rather conveniently creat this new 'records' that werent in existence before. It feels like cricket where they actually talk about the highest scored by a 38yo west indian playing in india in january facing a spin bowler when the weather was 20 degrees and the wind was sw and 30 km/hr and his partner was white.

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Reply #397 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:26am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:16am:

You quote Thatcher??? ah of course... she agrees with you and that is what your side calls evidence...

yeah right.

So what does"your side" call evidence?

You told us that glaciers were not receding. After being asked over and over again to show evidence to support this - you cannot. It appears you were lying.

You told us that there was some magical undersea volcano that is responsible for the melting of the arctic ice cap. After being asked over and over again to show evidence to support this - you cannot. It appears you were lying

You told us that the MWP was 4 degrees warmer globally than today. After being asked over and over again to show evidence to support this - you linked to some blog which referred to a paper that identified that at some stage in the last 1000 years or so, on particular part of Antarctica may have been 1 degree warmer than today. It did not in any way support what you said. It appears you were lying.

Would you please show some evidence to support some of this nonsense you spout, or apologise for lying to the forum.

Thanks.

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Reply #398 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:35am

gold_medal wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:18am:

hey dumbnail.... no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least. that makes 20 years of no warming. even a dunce like you should be able to work out what the 'underlying trend' is.

NO GLOBAL WARMING.

Still clinging to your David Rose article!!!! Heh! THat is cute.

I guess this is what you call "evidence" is it? Mindlessly repeating some mantra you read by an idiot newspaper columnist! No mattaer how removed from reality it is!

Please explain to us:

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has sea level continued to rise?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has global glacial mass balance continued to decline?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has the extent of the arctic ice cap continued to decrease?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why have ocean temperatures continued to increase?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has every single on of the last 27 consecutive years had a global average temperature above the long term average?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why were 2010 and 2005 the hottest years ever recorded?

And,

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why is the only "evidence" you have to support this an opinion piece from some columnist in the Daily Mail?

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Reply #399 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:52am

MOTR wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 4:44am:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 11:29pm:

MOTR wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 11:16pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Jan 21^st, 2013 at 8:10pm:

Here is something else for you MOTR.

nights are getting hotter therefore AGW

Not any more. That saying is dead in the water.

Quote:

A relatively small change in the average temperature can easily double the frequency of extreme heat events. Australia has warmed steadily since the 1940s, and the probability of extreme heat has now increased almost five-fold compared with 50 years ago.

Within the past decade, the number of extreme heat records in Australia has outnumbered extreme cold records by almost 3:1 for daytime maximum temperatures and 5:1 for night-time minimum temperature.

The duration of heat waves has increased in some parts, especially in the northern half of the continent. Put another way, the frequency of abnormally hot days (above the 90th percentile) has increased by 30% and the frequency of hot nights (above the 90th percentile) has increased by 50%.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2013/jan/21/what-is-causing-australia...

You still haven't given this one a go yet.

It says it all in its first paragraph, well almost all but leaves out some of what Isaid

Quote:

Australia has started 2013 with a record-breaking heat wave that has lasted more than two weeks across many parts of the country. Temperatures have regularly gone above 48°C, with the highest recorded maximum of 49.6°C at Moomba in South Australia. The extreme conditions have been associated with a delayed onset of the Australian monsoon, and slow moving weather systems over the continent.

Yes, the overall coverage of the high right accross Australia and it slow movement, coupled with the tropical low staying off Australia and the lower jetstream keeping off Australia.

Not unusual at all under the conditions.

All sorts of things will shift the heat around, progs. No doubt there has been a delay in the onset of the monsoon in previous years. The difference today is that there is more heat in the system. There are going to be plenty more of these record breaking events in the next five years, I look forward to watching you find unique ways to write them off.

That's right, progs, despite the 16 year "pause" in global warming, within the past decade, the number of extreme heat records in Australia has outnumbered extreme cold records by almost 3:1 for daytime maximum temperatures and 5:1 for night-time minimum temperature.

I guess we can call it the Claytons pause, the pause you have when you're not having a pause.

Or the boogyman

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Reply #400 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 3:40pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:26am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:16am:

You quote Thatcher??? ah of course... she agrees with you and that is what your side calls evidence...

yeah right.

So what does"your side" call evidence?

You told us that glaciers were not receding. After being asked over and over again to show evidence to support this - you cannot. It appears you were lying.

You told us that there was some magical undersea volcano that is responsible for the melting of the arctic ice cap. After being asked over and over again to show evidence to support this - you cannot. It appears you were lying

You told us that the MWP was 4 degrees warmer globally than today. After being asked over and over again to show evidence to support this - you linked to some blog which referred to a paper that identified that at some stage in the last 1000 years or so, on particular part of Antarctica may have been 1 degree warmer than today. It did not in any way support what you said. It appears you were lying.

Would you please show some evidence to support some of this nonsense you spout, or apologise for lying to the forum.

Thanks.

Ive now shown the link to a report on this volcano TWICE. this is why people dont bother linking to reports for people like you. You dont deserve it. At least MOTR has the credbility to read the sodding things. You just pretend they arent there.

you can be safely ignored and your opinion mocked.

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Reply #401 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 3:41pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:35am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:18am:

hey dumbnail.... no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least. that makes 20 years of no warming. even a dunce like you should be able to work out what the 'underlying trend' is.

NO GLOBAL WARMING.

Still clinging to your David Rose article!!!! Heh! THat is cute.

I guess this is what you call "evidence" is it? Mindlessly repeating some mantra you read by an idiot newspaper columnist! No mattaer how removed from reality it is!

Please explain to us:

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has sea level continued to rise?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has global glacial mass balance continued to decline?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has the extent of the arctic ice cap continued to decrease?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why have ocean temperatures continued to increase?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has every single on of the last 27 consecutive years had a global average temperature above the long term average?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why were 2010 and 2005 the hottest years ever recorded?

And,

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why is the only "evidence" you have to support this an opinion piece from some columnist in the Daily Mail?

You havent caught up... even MOTR accepts the truth of that statement - as does most of the science community.

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Reply #402 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 8:04pm

You haven't been listening, goldie. If the Met is predicting the next 5 years are likely to be as hot as the hottest year on record, who in their right mind thinks the planet has stopped warming. When the extreme becomes the normal you've got climate change.

Our satellites tell us the planet must be warming and the earth is responding.

Cherry picking 1998 to argue a warming pause only works if you don't really understand statistics. Some people say there are lies, damned lies and statistics. I say there are lies, damned lies and the statistically ignorant.

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Hunt says Coalition accepts IPCC findings

"What does this mean? It means that we need to do practical things that actually reduce emissions."

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Reply #403 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 8:22pm

gold_medal wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 3:40pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:26am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:16am:

You quote Thatcher??? ah of course... she agrees with you and that is what your side calls evidence...

yeah right.

So what does"your side" call evidence?

You told us that glaciers were not receding. After being asked over and over again to show evidence to support this - you cannot. It appears you were lying.

You told us that there was some magical undersea volcano that is responsible for the melting of the arctic ice cap. After being asked over and over again to show evidence to support this - you cannot. It appears you were lying

You told us that the MWP was 4 degrees warmer globally than today. After being asked over and over again to show evidence to support this - you linked to some blog which referred to a paper that identified that at some stage in the last 1000 years or so, on particular part of Antarctica may have been 1 degree warmer than today. It did not in any way support what you said. It appears you were lying.

Would you please show some evidence to support some of this nonsense you spout, or apologise for lying to the forum.

Thanks.

Ive now shown the link to a report on this volcano TWICE. this is why people dont bother linking to reports for people like you. You dont deserve it. At least MOTR has the credbility to read the sodding things. You just pretend they arent there.

you can be safely ignored and your opinion mocked.

Oh I do apologise!!!!

Have you REALLY shown us evidence that there was some magical undersea volcano that is responsible for the melting of the arctic ice cap?!?!?

Or have you just posted a link to some retards blog?

Since you obviously have the information at hand - please post it again for us? I must have missed it before. After all - I have been asking you over and over again for this evidence with no response.. Now you claim to have posted it!! TWICE!!!!

Show us again please. Show us this evidence that there was some magical undersea volcano that is responsible for the melting of the arctic ice cap.

Here is your big chance to show me up. Just copy and paste (CTRL-C/CTRL-V) this wonderful evidenece for us again.

Here.
Now.

Show us this evidence that there was some magical undersea volcano that is responsible for the melting of the arctic ice cap. If you cannot.

Pleas apologise foir telling lies to the forum.

And while you are there - we are still waiting. You told us that glaciers were not receding. After being asked over and over again to show evidence to support this - you cannot. It appears you were lying.

You told us that the MWP was 4 degrees warmer globally than today. After being asked over and over again to show evidence to support this - you linked to some blog which referred to a paper that identified that at some stage in the last 1000 years or so, on particular part of Antarctica may have been 1 degree warmer than today. It did not in any way support what you said. It appears you were lying.

We are still waiting Gold Medal.

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Re: 2013 Australian heat wave has no precedent.
Reply #404 - Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 8:26pm

gold_medal wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 3:41pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:35am:

gold_medal wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2013 at 7:18am:

hey dumbnail.... no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least. that makes 20 years of no warming. even a dunce like you should be able to work out what the 'underlying trend' is.

NO GLOBAL WARMING.

Still clinging to your David Rose article!!!! Heh! THat is cute.

I guess this is what you call "evidence" is it? Mindlessly repeating some mantra you read by an idiot newspaper columnist! No mattaer how removed from reality it is!

Please explain to us:

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has sea level continued to rise?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has global glacial mass balance continued to decline?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has the extent of the arctic ice cap continued to decrease?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why have ocean temperatures continued to increase?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has every single on of the last 27 consecutive years had a global average temperature above the long term average?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why were 2010 and 2005 the hottest years ever recorded?

And,

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why is the only "evidence" you have to support this an opinion piece from some columnist in the Daily Mail?

You havent caught up... even MOTR accepts the truth of that statement - as does most of the science community.

Could you please provide us with evidence that MOTR and "most of the science community" are as gullible as you are to believe a stupid newspaper column by David Rose.

Please show us this evidence or apologise for lying to the forum.

And please answer the questions asked of you. Please explain to us:

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has sea level continued to rise?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has global glacial mass balance continued to decline?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has the extent of the arctic ice cap continued to decrease?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why have ocean temperatures continued to increase?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why has every single on of the last 27 consecutive years had a global average temperature above the long term average?

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why were 2010 and 2005 the hottest years ever recorded?

And,

If there "no warming in the last 16 years and none expected for the next 5 at least" - why is the only "evidence" you have to support this an opinion piece from some columnist in the Daily Mail?

How about you stop quoting David Rose and start answering some questions?

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