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Re: SHOOTINGS, extortion and general violence [in Syd
Reply #15 - Dec 10^th, 2012 at 7:10pm

Big Dave wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 5:21pm:

The fact of the matter is that it's a middle eastern issue involing certain parts of SW sydney. That's just reality.

The source posted in the OP suggested there was warfare between rival ethnic gangs. So presuming the middle-easterners are on one side, who are they fighting? It takes two to tango. Traditionally the main ethnic gang violence in Sydney has been between Lebanese and Vietnamese - and other times the notorious white bikie gangs have been involved. Exactly who is involved here?

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Reply #16 - Dec 11^th, 2012 at 4:29am

Big Dave wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 5:21pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 5:46am:

Big Dave wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 4:32am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Dec 9^th, 2012 at 5:15am:

Seriously yadda sydneys west as always been like that. It has nothing to do with islam.

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It's not happening in Sydney's west. It's mostly happening in the SW of sydney. Not far from the city.

Do the area changes slightly with population movement.

SOB

I don't know what you are alluding to. The fact of the matter is that it's a middle eastern issue involing certain parts of SW sydney. That's just reality.

Thats just who you perceive are living there now. The faces change.

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Reply #17 - Dec 11^th, 2012 at 10:34am

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 7:10pm:

Big Dave wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 5:21pm:

The fact of the matter is that it's a middle eastern issue involing certain parts of SW sydney. That's just reality.

The source posted in the OP suggested there was warfare between rival ethnic gangs. So presuming the middle-easterners are on one side, who are they fighting? It takes two to tango. Traditionally the main ethnic gang violence in Sydney has been between Lebanese and Vietnamese - and other times the notorious white bikie gangs have been involved. Exactly who is involved here?

I wouldn't be surprised if it was those other intellectual giants, the islanders.

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Reply #18 - Dec 11^th, 2012 at 10:36am

Soren wrote on Dec 11^th, 2012 at 10:34am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 7:10pm:

Big Dave wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 5:21pm:

The fact of the matter is that it's a middle eastern issue involing certain parts of SW sydney. That's just reality.

The source posted in the OP suggested there was warfare between rival ethnic gangs. So presuming the middle-easterners are on one side, who are they fighting? It takes two to tango. Traditionally the main ethnic gang violence in Sydney has been between Lebanese and Vietnamese - and other times the notorious white bikie gangs have been involved. Exactly who is involved here?

I wouldn't be surprised if it was those other intellectual giants, the islanders.

Well you have shown your intellect by not saying that to their faces.

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Reply #19 - Dec 11^th, 2012 at 2:12pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 7:10pm:

Big Dave wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 5:21pm:

The fact of the matter is that it's a middle eastern issue involing certain parts of SW sydney. That's just reality.

The source posted in the OP suggested there was warfare between rival ethnic gangs. So presuming the middle-easterners are on one side, who are they fighting? It takes two to tango. Traditionally the main ethnic gang violence in Sydney has been between Lebanese and Vietnamese - and other times the notorious white bikie gangs have been involved. Exactly who is involved here?

It's not involving rival ethnic gangs. It's middle eastern criminals extorting money from local businesses in their communities. The people extorting and being extorted happen to be muslim. I got this info from aussiemuslim.com.

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Reply #21 - Dec 11^th, 2012 at 4:53pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 11^th, 2012 at 2:39pm:

Big Dave - from the OP article:

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Gangs from opposing religious sects

There was an article posted on aussiemuslim about businesses ( food places) being extorted from and burnt down (if they don't pay up)by criminal gangs. Their opinion was that certain asian muslim groups were being targeted . They never mentioned that the people being extorted from were involved in gangs. Just ordinary business people. That's what I thought the article was about. Cheers.

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Reply #22 - Dec 11^th, 2012 at 9:04pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Dec 11^th, 2012 at 10:36am:

Soren wrote on Dec 11^th, 2012 at 10:34am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 7:10pm:

Big Dave wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 5:21pm:

The fact of the matter is that it's a middle eastern issue involing certain parts of SW sydney. That's just reality.

The source posted in the OP suggested there was warfare between rival ethnic gangs. So presuming the middle-easterners are on one side, who are they fighting? It takes two to tango. Traditionally the main ethnic gang violence in Sydney has been between Lebanese and Vietnamese - and other times the notorious white bikie gangs have been involved. Exactly who is involved here?

I wouldn't be surprised if it was those other intellectual giants, the islanders.

Well you have shown your intellect by not saying that to their faces.

It's OK to say it to them with a smile. They don't understand long words like 'intellectual'. They'd think you called them nice giants.

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Re: SHOOTINGS, extortion and general violence [in Syd
Reply #23 - Dec 11^th, 2012 at 9:06pm

Big Dave wrote on Dec 11^th, 2012 at 2:12pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 7:10pm:

Big Dave wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 5:21pm:

The fact of the matter is that it's a middle eastern issue involing certain parts of SW sydney. That's just reality.

The source posted in the OP suggested there was warfare between rival ethnic gangs. So presuming the middle-easterners are on one side, who are they fighting? It takes two to tango. Traditionally the main ethnic gang violence in Sydney has been between Lebanese and Vietnamese - and other times the notorious white bikie gangs have been involved. Exactly who is involved here?

It's not involving rival ethnic gangs. It's middle eastern criminals extorting money from local businesses in their communities. The people extorting and being extorted happen to be muslim. I got this info from aussiemuslim.com.

Now I'm surprised they didn't say it way joo gangters.

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Reply #24 - Dec 11^th, 2012 at 9:09pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 11^th, 2012 at 2:39pm:

Big Dave - from the OP article:

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Gangs from opposing religious sects

gandalf, OH BLIND ONE - from the OP article:

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Gangs from opposing religious sects are also extorting money from restaurants in the area with at least three premises fire-bombed or shot at in the past few weeks.

Gee, Mark, which religious sects? Baptists and Methodists? Calvinists and Arminians?

........."It is the worst I have ever seen it. Some of these men are hiding behind their religion, saying they are Muslims and have a right to do what they are doing. That is wrong. They are criminals threatening people in their own community."

An angry Dr Riffi, who has a good relationship with police in the area and on the Middle eastern gang squad, said it was time the police hierarchy and politicians did something seriously about the problem.

If these people are criminals hiding behind their Islamic faith, shouldn't the Muslim community do something about it? Or is it all up to the police hierarchy and politicians?

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/12/sunni-shiite-jihad-comes-to-australia-shooting...

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gandalf,

When moslem gangs or individuals commit crimes in Europe [you know, grooming under-age white girls, plying them with drugs and alcohol, then raping them, the extortion, the intimidation, the destruction of property of others, etc.],
......the European media are too politically correct to refer to those individuals as MOSLEMS.

And almost everyone in Europe knows that the moslem community in Europe is heavily involved in criminality in European societies.

But instead of identifying these miscreants and CRIMINALS as moslems, the the European media will often refer to those moslem criminals
as 'asian youths',
......thereby also tainting the [good moral] reputation of Hindus and Budhists and the

[law-abiding]

members of other asian communities with, THE CRIMES OF MEMBERS OF THE MOSLEM COMMUNITY.

gandalf,

Don't you think that this mis-reporting by the media is unfair upon the mostly

[lawabiding]

members of other asian communities in Europe ???

Shouldn't those moslems who commit crimes, be identified as moslems ? [....so as to protect the reputation of the

[lawabiding]

members of other asian communities ? ]

MORE HERE ON THE NATURE OF THE CRIMINAL BEHAVIOUR OF MEMBERS OF THE MOSLEM COMMUNITY.
AND HOW MOSLEM CRIMINALITY CAN BE DEEMED BY ISLAM, TO BE 'RIGHTEOUS' CONDUCT....
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Walid Shoebat explains that MURUNA [i.e. engaging in [normally] prohibited conduct] is sanctioned [made lawful] by ISLAM [for practising moslems], so long as the intended consequence [of engaging in the [normally] prohibited conduct] was to advance the interests of ISLAM, in the Western nation, where the moslem is living.

MURUNA, is; to make legal, what is prohibited

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1354878259/0#0

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Re: SHOOTINGS, extortion and general violence [in Syd
Reply #25 - Dec 11^th, 2012 at 9:18pm

Yadda wrote on Dec 11^th, 2012 at 9:09pm:

gandalf,

When moslem gangs or individuals commit crimes in Europe [you know, grooming under-age white girls, plying them with drugs and alcohol, then raping them, the extortion, the intimidation, the destruction of property of others, etc.],
......the European media are too politically correct to refer to those individuals as MOSLEMS.

......Shouldn't those moslems who commit crimes, be identified as moslems ? [....so as to protect the reputation of the

[lawabiding]

members of other asian communities ? ]

gandalf; What right do you have to call these people criminals, and declare that they are not moslems ???
Do you have such a right to call these men criminals, when they claim that they are moslems ?

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Betrayed by the PC brigade: From the Mail writer who first revealed the scandal of Muslim sex gangs, a damning exposé of how politically correct police and social workers betrayed underage white victims

http://muslimrapewave.wordpress.com/page/4/

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: SHOOTINGS, extortion and general violence [in Syd Reply #26 - Dec 11^th, 2012 at 9:25pm gawd, they're ugly fvckers.
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Yadda Gold Member Offline Posts: 22609 A cat with a view	Re: SHOOTINGS, extortion and general violence [in Syd Reply #27 - Dec 11^th, 2012 at 9:30pm Soren wrote on Dec 11^th, 2012 at 9:25pm: gawd, they're ugly fvckers. Careful soren, they may be 'offended' by your opinion about how they 'appear'. After all, someone may think that they look like 'asians' !!!!!
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Re: SHOOTINGS, extortion and general violence [in Syd
Reply #28 - Dec 12^th, 2012 at 7:11am

Yadda wrote on Dec 11^th, 2012 at 9:09pm:

Don't you think that this mis-reporting by the media is unfair upon the mostly
[lawabiding]
members of other asian communities in Europe ???

Now you're just being hysterical. Everyone knows about the notorious Vietnamese gangs and drug rackets in Cabramatta. Everyone knows about the Chinese (and other east asian) prostitution and other child slave rings that run rampant in Sydney. The only asian criminals in Australia are muslim? Give me freaking break. Then there's the "white" crime that probably eclpises them all. Not aware of the bikie gang warfare over the last few years? - then you must be living in a cave.

Finally, I have yet to see any substantive evidence that this so called "middle-east" crime is 1. rampant in Sydney (ie relative to other non-middle east crime) and 2. even predominantly committed by practicing muslims. Only anecdotes and sweeping generalisations. Most of our Lebanese population is christian - are any of those involved? I don't know - and neither it seems do you.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #29 - Dec 12^th, 2012 at 10:29am

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 12^th, 2012 at 7:11am:

Yadda wrote on Dec 11^th, 2012 at 9:09pm:

Don't you think that this mis-reporting by the media is unfair upon the mostly
[lawabiding]
members of other asian communities in Europe ???

Now you're just being hysterical......

I was once bitten by a very aggressive dog.

Although i was bitten by a dog once, i don't treat or approach all dogs, like the dog that bit me.

But if a dog approaches me in an aggressive manner, i will treat that aggressive dog, as an aggressive dog,
...and not as a friendly dog.

That is discrimination, and that 'discrimination' is it prudent.

And [if i can] i will not let that aggressive dog get close enough to bite me.

ISLAM, is an 'aggressive dog'.

And all moslems are suspect, because all moslems are persons who choose to associate themselves with ISLAM.

They [all moslems], choose to accept the tenets and laws of ISLAM.

Dictionary;
tenet = = a principle or belief.

Therefore, if a person self declares to me, that he is a moslem,
....i know what it is that he has chosen to embrace.

Deceit, falsehood, threats, intimidation, vicious violence, murder, are all lawful and accepted [by moslems], as means to promote the interests of ISLAM.

And that is the 'mark' of a moslem.

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THE LAW OF ISLAM;
HATRED FOR THE DISBELIEVERS, AND NEVER ENDING ENMITY AND WARFARE AGAINST THEM....

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11

"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123

"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him;...."
Koran 3.85

"And fight with them until.....religion should be only for Allah,..."
Koran 2.193

"Allah 's Apostle said, " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' ...."
hadithsunnah/bukhari #004.052.196

"...If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

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'Martyrdom is a very beautiful thing'

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'It our muslim destiny to rid the world of Jews'

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'Even Allah's creatures testify that Jews are Allah's enemies'

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http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/www.nationalpost.com/news/2056316.binsize=404x272

'And they too know that to slaughter the Jews is the right thing to do'

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God bless Hitler?

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The real holocaust is coming?

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London, moslem street protests.
'Demonstrating' just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslem really are.

THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"
"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"

ISLAM, is a rabid dog, A RAVENING WOLF,
Those who 'self declare' as moslems, are its legitimate 'pack' members

Dictionary;
rabid = =
1 extreme; fanatical.
2 of, relating to, or affected with rabies.

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