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Is Feminism Flatlining? Eva Cox
Nov 14th, 2012 at 9:47am
 
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Women are still not paid as well as men for equivalent work. Women continue to volunteer in the community more than men and are still doing the bulk of household work.

Women are far less safe in NSW families and communities than men. Women are more than twice as likely as men to experience domestic violence and five times more likely than men to be sexually assaulted and have the assault perpetrated by their partner.

Why, if women are better educated, more qualified, less likely to commit crimes, more literate and less likely to drink to excess, do we still lag behind men on power scales and the indicators that count?

Maybe it is because of the assumption that we are responsible for the nurture and care of others, whether paid, underpaid or unpaid. Men have not taken up those hands-on roles and women owned jobs are still undervalued at high and low level. Human resources executives (female) are paid much less than their counterparts in finance, who are mainly males. Most school principals and directors of nursing are male, despite the majority of their workers being female.

We have not achieved the necessary social and cultural changes to match our new legal rights. Instead, workplaces have become ever more macho, pushing longer hours and more profits, rather than looking at social contributions.

Inbuilt masculine prejudices and assumptions still decide on gender acceptable behaviours. So progress for women often means behaving like men – or ‘choosing’ to opt out into the undervalued feminised areas in paid and unpaid roles.


http://thehoopla.com.au/feminism-flatlining/
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Reply #1 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 9:55am
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 9:47am:
Why, if women are better educated, more qualified, less likely to commit crimes, more literate and less likely to drink to excess, do we still lag behind men on power scales and the indicators that count?


They're some big 'IF's.  But IF they are true, it's because they lack the potent, supercharging serum known as tes tos ter one.  Feel free to supplement, but be warned, there may be a few side effects.
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Reply #2 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 9:58am
 
I know the answer to the question you quoted. Do you?
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Reply #3 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 10:05am
 
I just answered it didn't I?

Although my answer didn't include "oppression" so it's probably *ahem* wrong.
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Reply #4 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 10:22am
 
It was a stupid answer. Testosterone isn't needed to run a nation let alone a corporation.

The answer is that there is a lack of balance due to age. The women who are more educated are mostly younger with less experience. With the next generation the balance of power will shift and it will continue to do so.

For what it's worth, I don't believe gender quotas in the workplace are helpful, but there needs to be a change to ensure that women receive the same benefits in their careers as men - salaries etc.
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Reply #5 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 10:35am
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 10:22am:
It was a stupid answer. Testosterone isn't needed to run a nation let alone a corporation.


1 dimensional thinking there Annie - 1/10. 

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Male testosterone linked to high social dominance but low physical aggression in early adolescence.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8885586

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A University of Cambridge study showed a male’s trader daily Testosterone is higher on the days when he makes more money than he would in an average day.

Also the higher a trader’s testosterone level in the morning, the more likely it is he’ll make more money at the end of the day than his low- testosterone colleagues.

Testosterone makes you feel invincible so you start to take bigger risks in hopes of bigger rewards.

This is all due to a phenomenon called ‘’The Winner Effect’’. Researchers have been studying the winner effect observing animals for more than a decade. In animals, success at any given task triggers a boost in testosterone levels, which in turn triggers a number of changes in the brain. Animals under the effects of T make decisions faster, are more willing to take risks and try harder to win.

The same has been examined in human male athletes, with the same results: When you win you release more testosterone, which increases your chances of succeeding the next time around.


http://sacrededenblog.com/your-path-to-success-high-t-high-profits/

If you google "testosterone linked to wealth/health/success/dominance" you'll get millions of results.   Seem like pretty handy advantages to have if you want to get to the top, don't they?  Estrogen isn't terribly useful for this goal. 

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The answer is that there is a lack of balance due to age. The women who are more educated are mostly younger with less experience. With the next generation the balance of power will shift and it will continue to do so.


True.  At least until the artficial "leg ups" to women and barriers to men end.

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For what it's worth, I don't believe gender quotas in the workplace are helpful, but there needs to be a change to ensure that women receive the same benefits in their careers as men - salaries etc.


What kind of change?  Women overall aren't as interested in high power, high risk, high reward roles.  For those who are, I say go for it, but lets not fall into the trap of imagining that what men and women want, or how they measure success are identical.
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For those who are, I say go for it, but lets not fall into the trap of imagining that what men and women want, or how they measure success are identical.


You seem to think that both genders fall into two homogeneous groups that have the same wants and needs and desires. That's ridiculous. How men measure success isn't universal.

The trap you refer to exists in your own mind.
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Reply #7 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 10:55am
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 14th, 2012 at 10:46am:
You seem to think that both genders fall into two homogeneous groups that have the same wants and needs and desires. That's ridiculous. How men measure success isn't universal.

The trap you refer to exists in your own mind.



If that was the case, I wouldn't make an exception - "For those who are, I say go for it".

If 80 or 90% of a group exhibit a particular trait, it's enough to observe a clear, unmistakable pattern - but it's not homogeneous.  A few exceptions don't disprove the rule.
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Reply #8 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 10:58am
 
What do women want?
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Reply #9 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:03am
 
Security.

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Reply #10 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:15am
 
Okay. Security is more important for some than others, but yes - I'd agree for the most part. Don't men want that too?
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Reply #11 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:27am
 
As a much lower priority.  Much like how women want sex, but it's a much lower priority than for men.
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Reply #12 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:43am
 
If sex is a "much lower priority" for the women you have experienced, perhaps you're just not doing it right.
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Reply #13 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:45am
 
What's to get wrong? You piss in their belly button - easy peasy. 


Hohoho...seriously though, you're really disputing that?????
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Reply #14 - Nov 14th, 2012 at 11:50am
 
lol.

Yes, I'm disputing it.
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