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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Labor wins ACT election. Reply #30 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:04am Four years of a Labor and Greens govt wah wah wah
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TheGreenLight Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 633 Gender:	Re: Labor wins ACT election. Reply #31 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:59am adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:04am: Four years of a Labor and Greens govt wah wah wah Another 3 years of the Gillard government after next year's election too?
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Labor wins ACT election. Reply #32 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:05am TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:59am: adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:04am: Four years of a Labor and Greens govt wah wah wah Another 3 years of the Gillard government after next year's election too? I dont care as long as Abbott isnt PM..Im more than happy for a Turnbull led Liberal govt
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Reply #33 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:11am

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:05am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:59am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:04am:

Four years of a Labor and Greens govt Cry

wah wah wah Grin

Another 3 years of the Gillard government after next year's election too?

I dont care as long as Abbott isnt PM..Im more than happy for a Turnbull led Liberal govt

Better than Abbott for sure. I still can't shake the uneasy feeling that Abbott is going to get in. The Libs will likely stick with him now, imagine the field day Labor and the media would have if they didn't. And recent polls like the ACT don't give much hope. If Labor are getting just as much vote as the Libs there, in the most left-wing state or territory, it isn't helpful, especially when polls suggested a comfortable Labor win. I will remain in hope though, that the disaster that would be an Abbott government will never happen.

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Reply #34 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:16am

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:11am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:05am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:59am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:04am:

Four years of a Labor and Greens govt Cry

wah wah wah Grin

Another 3 years of the Gillard government after next year's election too?

I dont care as long as Abbott isnt PM..Im more than happy for a Turnbull led Liberal govt

. I will remain in hope though, that the disaster that would be an Abbott government will never happen.

For our kids future we need to make sure it never happens.

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Reply #35 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:18am

skippy. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:16am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:11am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:05am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:59am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:04am:

Four years of a Labor and Greens govt Cry

wah wah wah Grin

Another 3 years of the Gillard government after next year's election too?

I dont care as long as Abbott isnt PM..Im more than happy for a Turnbull led Liberal govt

. I will remain in hope though, that the disaster that would be an Abbott government will never happen.

For our kids future we need to make sure it never happens.

The next election slogan should be "Anyone but Abbott"

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bambu Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1084 Gender:	Re: Labor wins ACT election. Reply #36 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:20am Gillard-Labor will win the next federal election too if many people who voted Labor, Greens, Independent, and informal last time don't vote Liberal/National this time.
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Reply #37 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:20am

skippy. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:16am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:11am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:05am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:59am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:04am:

Four years of a Labor and Greens govt Cry

wah wah wah Grin

Another 3 years of the Gillard government after next year's election too?

I dont care as long as Abbott isnt PM..Im more than happy for a Turnbull led Liberal govt

. I will remain in hope though, that the disaster that would be an Abbott government will never happen.

For our kids future we need to make sure it never happens.

It's upsetting when you see people close to you prepared to vote got him. My ex-wife and one of my sons for example. You wonder what must go through their heads to be prepared to vote for such a misogynistic, violent and sexist bastard as Abbott.

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Labor wins ACT election. Reply #38 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:22am bambu wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:20am: Gillard-Labor will win the next federal election too if many people who voted Labor, Greens, Independent, and informal last time don't vote Liberal/National this time. Wow, such phenomenal insight.
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Reply #39 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:22am

bambu wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:20am:

Gillard-Labor will win the next federal election too if many people who voted Labor, Greens, Independent, and informal last time don't vote Liberal/National this time.

I'll vote Liberal if they have a moderate Liberal leading them..Im not going to vote Liberal while the hardliners of the regressive far right have control of the party.

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Reply #40 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:23am

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:22am:

bambu wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:20am:

Gillard-Labor will win the next federal election too if many people who voted Labor, Greens, Independent, and informal last time don't vote Liberal/National this time.

I'll vote Liberal if they have a moderate Liberal leading them..Im not going to vote Liberal while the hardliners of the regressive far right have control of the party.

Who though? Apart from Turnbull I mean. He's the only Lib/Nat I can stand.

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Reply #41 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:26am

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:20am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:16am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:11am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:05am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:59am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:04am:

Four years of a Labor and Greens govt Cry

wah wah wah Grin

Another 3 years of the Gillard government after next year's election too?

I dont care as long as Abbott isnt PM..Im more than happy for a Turnbull led Liberal govt

. I will remain in hope though, that the disaster that would be an Abbott government will never happen.

For our kids future we need to make sure it never happens.

It's upsetting when you see people close to you prepared to vote got him. My ex-wife and one of my sons for example. You wonder what must go through their heads to be prepared to vote for such a misogynistic, violent and sexist bastard as Abbott.

With garbage reasoning like this, I take comfort that the Greens will never gain much power or influence over many people.

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Reply #42 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:29am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:26am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:20am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:16am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:11am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:05am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:59am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:04am:

Four years of a Labor and Greens govt Cry

wah wah wah Grin

Another 3 years of the Gillard government after next year's election too?

I dont care as long as Abbott isnt PM..Im more than happy for a Turnbull led Liberal govt

. I will remain in hope though, that the disaster that would be an Abbott government will never happen.

For our kids future we need to make sure it never happens.

It's upsetting when you see people close to you prepared to vote got him. My ex-wife and one of my sons for example. You wonder what must go through their heads to be prepared to vote for such a misogynistic, violent and sexist bastard as Abbott.

With garbage reasoning like this, I take comfort that the Greens will never gain much power or influence over many people.

Thats right..no one has the right to interrupt Labor and the Libs cosy little duopoly.
Why have a true multi party democracy?

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Reply #43 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:34am

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:29am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:26am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:20am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:16am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:11am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:05am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:59am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:04am:

Four years of a Labor and Greens govt Cry

wah wah wah Grin

Another 3 years of the Gillard government after next year's election too?

I dont care as long as Abbott isnt PM..Im more than happy for a Turnbull led Liberal govt

. I will remain in hope though, that the disaster that would be an Abbott government will never happen.

For our kids future we need to make sure it never happens.

It's upsetting when you see people close to you prepared to vote got him. My ex-wife and one of my sons for example. You wonder what must go through their heads to be prepared to vote for such a misogynistic, violent and sexist bastard as Abbott.

With garbage reasoning like this, I take comfort that the Greens will never gain much power or influence over many people.

Thats right..no one has the right to interrupt Labor and the Libs cosy little duopoly.
Why have a true multi party democracy?

Yeah, why have a party based on compassion, grass-roots democracy and equality?

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Reply #44 - Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 11:18am

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:34am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:29am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:26am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:20am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:16am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:11am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 10:05am:

TheGreenLight wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:59am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2012 at 9:04am:

Four years of a Labor and Greens govt Cry

wah wah wah Grin

Another 3 years of the Gillard government after next year's election too?

I dont care as long as Abbott isnt PM..Im more than happy for a Turnbull led Liberal govt

. I will remain in hope though, that the disaster that would be an Abbott government will never happen.

For our kids future we need to make sure it never happens.

It's upsetting when you see people close to you prepared to vote got him. My ex-wife and one of my sons for example. You wonder what must go through their heads to be prepared to vote for such a misogynistic, violent and sexist bastard as Abbott.

With garbage reasoning like this, I take comfort that the Greens will never gain much power or influence over many people.

Thats right..no one has the right to interrupt Labor and the Libs cosy little duopoly.
Why have a true multi party democracy?

Yeah, why have a party based on compassion, grass-roots democracy and equality?

You've conflated three different positions. Compassion does not automatically equal grass-roots democracy, and neither of those positions equate to equality.
Grass-roots democracy could produce any number of ideas, even ones that may not be based in compassion or equality. To presuppose that it would lead to compassion or equality is to dictate ahead what people ought to think and believe in.
Democracy is the last thing on the Greens' mind.

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