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Re: A Price on Carbon - Immediate Results
Reply #76 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 7:05pm

skippy. wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 7:03pm:

Lol these fools believe a wanker that only this week has been ordered to attend a course aimed at stopping him spreading his lies to the retarded audience that hangs off his every word. It is obviously far to late for regressive fool and armpit.

indoctrination does not suit you or anyone well.

They are forcing Jones to go to education because he made a mistake and even corrected it. That suggests the fools who are making him go are in actual fact indoctinated or the indoctrinators.

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Reply #77 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 7:11pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 6:52pm:

woof woof wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 9:41am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:35am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:31am:

Meanwhile China has stated it will not see a reduction in carbon emissions until 2030 and continues to pollute at a greater increase than Australia's entire yearly output....

Got anymore of that Carbon-Tax Kool-Aid? It tastes awesome....
We're fixing the world everyone!!

Australia's emissions per capita are 4 times that of the Chinese.

Please stop trying to push these rubbish comparisons.

Have you been to China or seen how they live??
50% of Chinese are self sufficiant farmers using cattle as plows and push bikes to travel, they don't have electricioty or running water, are you saying that we should live like that?

Yes. And Andrei thinks these people need to be reducing their emissions so that nasty, greedy ignorant bastard like him don't have to do anything.

BTW nobody has suggested you should live like that. Please don't tell lies.

I think he is just confused by the BS that comes out of your mind and all the other AGWr's that China does not need to be directly involved and can spew out greater and greater amounts of co2 than can ever be ebated, but on the flip side, if we dont ebate, we are doomed.

Talk about circle jerk, dumb A ignorant dictators in the AGW crowd. We can just assume that at some stage, China will have done some ebating. No rush, all good. Well yes, it is all good because the AGW catastrophy pseudo science is bunk.

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Reply #78 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 7:47pm

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 7:00pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 6:46pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 10:02am:

John Smith wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 9:20am:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 9:16am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:29am:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:09am:

More like business meltdown, but if you stay asleep, you can dream all you like.

Just like the carbon tax must have worked, because the earth hasnt warmed for 16 years.

lol go back to sleep, much better in that world.

earth hasnt warmed for 16 years.?!?!

Where did you get that nonsense idea from?

You can come up with as much BS as you like. The earth has not warmed for 16 years.

there you go ... progs has admitted that no matter what the proof, s/hes to stupid to consider it because s/he's already made up her/his mind.

The earth has not warmed for 16 years. That is not making up my mind, that is the earth not warming for 16 years.

Is that a "fact" from the Alan Jones school of fact checking?

I suggest you pull your head out of your arse and stop believing lies.

The earth has been warming for the past 16 years.
That is beyond doubt.

Only a moron would deny it.

lol I took the figures from an obvious AGW crowd that just cant bring themselves to try and BS any further.

No. You either made it up or got it from some idiot like Jones.

THis is obvious - because the global temperature is quite clearly and unambiguously rising. THis is why the sea levels are also rising, global glacial mass balance is decreasing and arctic ice cap is decreasing.

THis is beyond doubt.

You blind faith in the thinks Alan Jones is touching - yet very sadly pathetic.

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Reply #79 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 7:53pm

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 7:02pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 6:50pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 5:33pm:

I really don't get this climate change/global warming stuff. nature produces about 97% of the carbon dioxide that exists in the atmosphere and it actually helps plants to grow. Humans create about 3% carbon dioxide, of which Australia produces .001% of the global man-made carbon dioxide output. How can we, as humans, be wrecking the Earth when our contribution to global CO2 is a meagre three percent? Also, global temperatures have actually been falling for nearly 17 years now - not rising. It's a joke!

No. You really don't get this climate change/global warming stuff.
You probably should stop trying to comment on it.

First - you need to stop repeating nonsense like " global temperatures have actually been falling for nearly 17 years now".

They haven't.

Second - try to imagine that you earn $97 dollars a week. And your rent and food and all other expenses add up to $97 a week. What happens when you get a dog that costs you $3 week in dogfood?

answer is you start using the other 95% of the wage you were trying to hide.

How about you imagine you have a 97,000 litre swimming pool. You have the enormous good fortune of living in a climate where the average daily rainfall is exactly matched by the average daily rate of evaporation due to wind and solar irradience - so, the 97,000 litres remains virtually constant.

What happens when you use your hose to add 3000 litres to that pool?

Seriously - this is not a difficult concept. Are you really that stupid? Or just profoundly dishonest?

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Reply #80 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:06pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 7:02pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 6:50pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 5:33pm:

I really don't get this climate change/global warming stuff. nature produces about 97% of the carbon dioxide that exists in the atmosphere and it actually helps plants to grow. Humans create about 3% carbon dioxide, of which Australia produces .001% of the global man-made carbon dioxide output. How can we, as humans, be wrecking the Earth when our contribution to global CO2 is a meagre three percent? Also, global temperatures have actually been falling for nearly 17 years now - not rising. It's a joke!

No. You really don't get this climate change/global warming stuff.
You probably should stop trying to comment on it.

First - you need to stop repeating nonsense like " global temperatures have actually been falling for nearly 17 years now".

They haven't.

Second - try to imagine that you earn $97 dollars a week. And your rent and food and all other expenses add up to $97 a week. What happens when you get a dog that costs you $3 week in dogfood?

answer is you start using the other 95% of the wage you were trying to hide.

How about you imagine you have a 97,000 litre swimming pool. You have the enormous good fortune of living in a climate where the average daily rainfall is exactly matched by the average daily rate of evaporation due to wind and solar irradience - so, the 97,000 litres remains virtually constant.

What happens when you use your hose to add 3000 litres to that pool?

Seriously - this is not a difficult concept. Are you really that stupid? Or just profoundly dishonest?

You cant be that stupid.

So I put 3000 litres in. Into the actual 2,000,000 litres of water as we are calculating the 100% amount of water, not just the water that turned yellow from your wee wee.

I would say stuff all happened.

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Reply #81 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:14pm

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:06pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 7:02pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 6:50pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 5:33pm:

I really don't get this climate change/global warming stuff. nature produces about 97% of the carbon dioxide that exists in the atmosphere and it actually helps plants to grow. Humans create about 3% carbon dioxide, of which Australia produces .001% of the global man-made carbon dioxide output. How can we, as humans, be wrecking the Earth when our contribution to global CO2 is a meagre three percent? Also, global temperatures have actually been falling for nearly 17 years now - not rising. It's a joke!

No. You really don't get this climate change/global warming stuff.
You probably should stop trying to comment on it.

First - you need to stop repeating nonsense like " global temperatures have actually been falling for nearly 17 years now".

They haven't.

Second - try to imagine that you earn $97 dollars a week. And your rent and food and all other expenses add up to $97 a week. What happens when you get a dog that costs you $3 week in dogfood?

answer is you start using the other 95% of the wage you were trying to hide.

How about you imagine you have a 97,000 litre swimming pool. You have the enormous good fortune of living in a climate where the average daily rainfall is exactly matched by the average daily rate of evaporation due to wind and solar irradience - so, the 97,000 litres remains virtually constant.

What happens when you use your hose to add 3000 litres to that pool?

Seriously - this is not a difficult concept. Are you really that stupid? Or just profoundly dishonest?

You cant be that stupid.

So I put 3000 litres in. Into the actual 2,000,000 litres of water as we are calculating the 100% amount of water, not just the water that turned yellow from your wee wee.

I would say stuff all happened.

Excuse me? Is 3000 3% of 2,000,000?

Did Alan Jones tell you that?

Why do you think the planets temperature is not increasing?
What are you basing that statement on?

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Reply #82 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:22pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:14pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:06pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 7:02pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 6:50pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 5:33pm:

I really don't get this climate change/global warming stuff. nature produces about 97% of the carbon dioxide that exists in the atmosphere and it actually helps plants to grow. Humans create about 3% carbon dioxide, of which Australia produces .001% of the global man-made carbon dioxide output. How can we, as humans, be wrecking the Earth when our contribution to global CO2 is a meagre three percent? Also, global temperatures have actually been falling for nearly 17 years now - not rising. It's a joke!

No. You really don't get this climate change/global warming stuff.
You probably should stop trying to comment on it.

First - you need to stop repeating nonsense like " global temperatures have actually been falling for nearly 17 years now".

They haven't.

Second - try to imagine that you earn $97 dollars a week. And your rent and food and all other expenses add up to $97 a week. What happens when you get a dog that costs you $3 week in dogfood?

answer is you start using the other 95% of the wage you were trying to hide.

How about you imagine you have a 97,000 litre swimming pool. You have the enormous good fortune of living in a climate where the average daily rainfall is exactly matched by the average daily rate of evaporation due to wind and solar irradience - so, the 97,000 litres remains virtually constant.

What happens when you use your hose to add 3000 litres to that pool?

Seriously - this is not a difficult concept. Are you really that stupid? Or just profoundly dishonest?

You cant be that stupid.

So I put 3000 litres in. Into the actual 2,000,000 litres of water as we are calculating the 100% amount of water, not just the water that turned yellow from your wee wee.

I would say stuff all happened.

Excuse me? Is 3000 3% of 2,000,000?

Did Alan Jones tell you that?

Why do you think the planets temperature is not increasing?
What are you basing that statement on?

No, 3% is 3% of the 100% of co2. Co2 is 5% of the greenhouse gases.

No need to thank me. Shocked

Met office for one.

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Reply #83 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:46pm

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:22pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:14pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:06pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 7:53pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 7:02pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 6:50pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 5:33pm:

I really don't get this climate change/global warming stuff. nature produces about 97% of the carbon dioxide that exists in the atmosphere and it actually helps plants to grow. Humans create about 3% carbon dioxide, of which Australia produces .001% of the global man-made carbon dioxide output. How can we, as humans, be wrecking the Earth when our contribution to global CO2 is a meagre three percent? Also, global temperatures have actually been falling for nearly 17 years now - not rising. It's a joke!

No. You really don't get this climate change/global warming stuff.
You probably should stop trying to comment on it.

First - you need to stop repeating nonsense like " global temperatures have actually been falling for nearly 17 years now".

They haven't.

Second - try to imagine that you earn $97 dollars a week. And your rent and food and all other expenses add up to $97 a week. What happens when you get a dog that costs you $3 week in dogfood?

answer is you start using the other 95% of the wage you were trying to hide.

How about you imagine you have a 97,000 litre swimming pool. You have the enormous good fortune of living in a climate where the average daily rainfall is exactly matched by the average daily rate of evaporation due to wind and solar irradience - so, the 97,000 litres remains virtually constant.

What happens when you use your hose to add 3000 litres to that pool?

Seriously - this is not a difficult concept. Are you really that stupid? Or just profoundly dishonest?

You cant be that stupid.

So I put 3000 litres in. Into the actual 2,000,000 litres of water as we are calculating the 100% amount of water, not just the water that turned yellow from your wee wee.

I would say stuff all happened.

Excuse me? Is 3000 3% of 2,000,000?

Did Alan Jones tell you that?

Why do you think the planets temperature is not increasing?
What are you basing that statement on?

No, 3% is 3% of the 100% of co2. Co2 is 5% of the greenhouse gases.

No. You really need to stop listening to Jonesy.

CO2 is between 10% to 25% of total greenhouse gasses - depending on what water vapour is doing.

Overall - CO2 accounts for about 20% of the greenhouse effect.

97% of this CO2 (along with the water vapour) is in equilibrium. It cycles in and out of the atmosphere in natural cycles.

It is the extra 3% that is added by anthropogenic sources that disturbs this equilibrium. if you don't belive this - give me your bank account number. i promise to only take 3% of your money each year. You won't even notice.

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:22pm:

Met office for one.

Show us the reference then.

I am calling you a liar.

Prove me wrong.

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Reply #85 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 9:15pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Oct 19^th, 2012 at 8:46pm: