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Re: Murderer of Jill Meagher found.
Reply #270 - Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 3:32pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 3:06pm:

Mine - fortunately - is in line with the public opinion and laws of the country and state in which I currently live.

And that's why I say that the USA is a nice place to visit, but I certainly wouldn't want to live there.

Their lust for guns and killing is just too creepy for my liking.

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Reply #271 - Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 4:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 3:32pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 3:06pm:

Mine - fortunately - is in line with the public opinion and laws of the country and state in which I currently live.

And that's why I say that the USA is a nice place to visit, but I certainly wouldn't want to live there.

Their lust for guns and killing is just too creepy for my liking.

And if you were a woman in Australia you wouldn't want to walk
around the streets of Brunswick at night.
You never know who you might meet.

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Re: Murderer of Jill Meagher found.
Reply #272 - Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 4:51pm

Bobby. wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 3:32pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 3:06pm:

Mine - fortunately - is in line with the public opinion and laws of the country and state in which I currently live.

And that's why I say that the USA is a nice place to visit, but I certainly wouldn't want to live there.

Their lust for guns and killing is just too creepy for my liking.

And if you were a woman in Australia you wouldn't want to walk
around the streets of Brunswick at night.
You never know who you might meet.

To tell you the truth, as a man, I don't particularly enjoying walking around any areas of Melbourne at night.

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Re: Murderer of Jill Meagher found.
Reply #273 - Oct 5^th, 2012 at 10:23am

Grey wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 11:00am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 8:46am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 8:37am:

So why isn't there a vote on this question?

Nobody has been asking it - nobody that matters anyway

SOB

Because the total screw up of a legal process, that is apparent in the American South, is not something anybody wants to see replicated here. I'd like to see execution introduced as an act of compassion, not as a method for legally lynching black people.

There's facts that are being missed here. First we had congratulations for the police. Then attention was drawn (by me) to the role the media played in looking after their own. Neither of which is strictly true. The guy gave himself up; the 'why' is the million dollar question. The police investigation looks very questionable. With Bayley's record you'd think he'd have been rounded up in hours. He don't seem a criminal mastermind who could concoct a solid alibi to me. I doubt he'd even have his shyt together enough to put his clothes through a washing machine let alone burn them.

You have to ask yourself, 'would I want to live as him?'

well I don't know what you expect here.

so we create anixity in the comunity, but ok he should die for his crimes, and with the reactions on this forum it not about this crime, the death of this woman , its more about the sexual assults in the past.

and that why he should die, SAD, well he probably will before he even go's to trial, because some IGNORANT person in the prisons refuses to protect him, just because, the comunity is angry.

Not one should be executed just because the comunity is ANGRY.

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Re: Murderer of Jill Meagher found.
Reply #274 - Oct 5^th, 2012 at 10:58am

Bobby. wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 3:32pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2012 at 3:06pm:

Mine - fortunately - is in line with the public opinion and laws of the country and state in which I currently live.

And that's why I say that the USA is a nice place to visit, but I certainly wouldn't want to live there.

Their lust for guns and killing is just too creepy for my liking.

And if you were a woman in Australia you wouldn't want to walk
around the streets of Brunswick at night.
You never know who you might meet.

Are you trying to say that its safe for women to walk the streets late @ night in america?

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Re: Murderer of Jill Meagher found.
Reply #276 - Oct 6^th, 2012 at 6:47am

Grey wrote on Oct 5^th, 2012 at 12:04pm:

warrigal wrote on Oct 5^th, 2012 at 10:23am:

Not one should be executed just because the comunity is ANGRY.

I'm not angry with him. Actually I feel a deal of compassion for him. I think he should be executed because it's the best solution.

CRAP

SO HE DIES IN CUSTODY BEFORE TRAIL BECAUSE EVERYONE IN VICTORIA IS ANGRY.

That s puts us back in the wild west days when the marshal tracks down the criminal. then hangs then and returns there dead body to the town.

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Re: Murderer of Jill Meagher found.
Reply #277 - Oct 6^th, 2012 at 7:00am

Women can participate in their "reclaim the streets" marches all they like.

The streets will never be safe for women to walk alone at night.

They never have been. Women must remember that they have been dragged back to the cave and raped all throughout history.

We are animals and we give in to animal type urges.

Women should spend more time finding ways to protect themselves rather than finding ways to make men change their cave man ways.

This goes for men too. Men should be careful where they walk alone at night.

Reality is, no city on earth is 100% safe. There will always be some mentally ill people lurking around.

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"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Hendrix
andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #278 - Oct 6^th, 2012 at 7:13am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 6^th, 2012 at 7:00am:

Women can participate in their "reclaim the streets" marches all they like.

The streets will never be safe for women to walk alone at night.

They never have been. Women must remember that they have been dragged back to the cave and raped all throughout history.

We are animals and we give in to animal type urges.

Women should spend more time finding ways to protect themselves rather than finding ways to make men change their cave man ways.

This goes for men too. Men should be careful where they walk alone at night.

Reality is, no city on earth is 100% safe. There will always be some mentally ill people lurking around.

and because we preceive that someone is Evil we have axiety and Anger in the Community.

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If you can create a big enough lie about someone IGNORANT people will bellieve it.

The bigger the Arshole you are on this forum, the more right you have to stay.

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Re: Murderer of Jill Meagher found.
Reply #279 - Oct 6^th, 2012 at 8:13am

warrigal wrote on Oct 6^th, 2012 at 7:13am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 6^th, 2012 at 7:00am:

Women can participate in their "reclaim the streets" marches all they like.

The streets will never be safe for women to walk alone at night.

They never have been. Women must remember that they have been dragged back to the cave and raped all throughout history.

We are animals and we give in to animal type urges.

Women should spend more time finding ways to protect themselves rather than finding ways to make men change their cave man ways.

This goes for men too. Men should be careful where they walk alone at night.

Reality is, no city on earth is 100% safe. There will always be some mentally ill people lurking around.

and because we preceive that someone is Evil we have axiety and Anger in the Community.

I'm just saying that there will always be opportunists out there ready to pounce so we all should be on our guard.

It's natural for the community to get anxious and angry when a young person is murdered in cold blood.

I also agree that the law as it stands is well able to dish out the correct punishment for the perpetrator of such crimes.

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Re: Murderer of Jill Meagher found.
Reply #280 - Oct 6^th, 2012 at 2:04pm

Pansi,
Quote:

I'm just saying that there will always be opportunists out there ready to pounce so we all should be on our guard.

It's natural for the community to get anxious and angry when a young person is murdered in cold blood.

I also agree that the law as it stands is well able to dish out the correct punishment for the perpetrator of such crimes.

I would like to change the topic to one of:

how can we stop this happening again?
(apart from the noose )

What if we were to find that the murderer of Jill
was a serial rapist who was allowed back out on the streets?

It's time that judges give out sentences that stop these
rapists & murderers from ever getting out of jail & onto our streets.

From memory - the 5 murderers & rapists in the Anita Cobby case
were all jailed for life with no possibility of parole.

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Re: Murderer of Jill Meagher found.
Reply #281 - Oct 6^th, 2012 at 3:04pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 6^th, 2012 at 7:00am:

Women can participate in their "reclaim the streets" marches all they like.

The streets will never be safe for women to walk alone at night.

They never have been. Women must remember that they have been dragged back to the cave and raped all throughout history.

We are animals and we give in to animal type urges.

Women should spend more time finding ways to protect themselves rather than finding ways to make men change their cave man ways.

This goes for men too. Men should be careful where they walk alone at night.

Reality is, no city on earth is 100% safe. There will always be some mentally ill people lurking around.

Whaddya know, we agree on something.

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Reply #282 - Oct 6^th, 2012 at 3:08pm

I agree bobby, in cases where there is no hope of reform , a never to be released stamp is ok with me.

I think there are a few people in our prison system that will never get released. The granny killer, Dunn, the child molester, a woman who cooked her boyfriend and served him up for tea and a few others, all better behind bars than out on the street.

The death penalty will only stop that one person from re-offending, it is no deterrent to other's though.

I don't think if this bloke is found guilty he'll get the NTBR stamp though, maybe 20 years.

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Reply #283 - Oct 6^th, 2012 at 3:10pm

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 6^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 6^th, 2012 at 7:00am:

Women can participate in their "reclaim the streets" marches all they like.

The streets will never be safe for women to walk alone at night.

They never have been. Women must remember that they have been dragged back to the cave and raped all throughout history.

We are animals and we give in to animal type urges.

Women should spend more time finding ways to protect themselves rather than finding ways to make men change their cave man ways.

This goes for men too. Men should be careful where they walk alone at night.

Reality is, no city on earth is 100% safe. There will always be some mentally ill people lurking around.

Whaddya know, we agree on something.

Oh frek! I didn't mean to say that. I'm changing my opinion.

only joking.

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #284 - Oct 6^th, 2012 at 3:34pm

warrigal wrote on Oct 6^th, 2012 at 7:13am:

and because we preceive that someone is Evil we have axiety and Anger in the Community.

It's you that's full of crap Warrigal. It's a crap response to put words and ideas in somebody elses head. I don't believe in evil, I've little faith in punishment and no time for revenge.

Look at it this way. If a country was to declare war on Australia, would you be against fighting back ? These guys have basically declared war on society. there's only one way to stop people trying to kill you. Well you CAN put them in prison; which is virtually saying they can kill these other people instead. Or you can put them in solitary confinement for ever, (how cruel is THAT?). And you can continue in many ways to waste money but that could be spent on kids making sure they have better outcomes.

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