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Economic Priorities Skewed - Says Milne.
Sep 26th, 2012 at 8:23am
 
Economic priorities skewed, says Milne

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    September 26, 2012


CHRISTINE MILNE will use her first big speech as Greens leader to question Australia's faith in economic growth at any cost.     Smiley

The senator concedes her stance will be seen as heresy by some, but she is going to say it anyway.

Senator Milne will tackle her critics head on, acknowledging the accusation regularly made against her party - ''that we are anti-growth and therefore want everyone to go back to living in caves, sipping nettle broth and whittling Huon pine condoms'' as a former Tasmanian premier once maintained.

She says the ''anti-growth'' tag is partly true - depending on what is supposed to be growing, and how it is measured.
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Right now she says Australians' quality of life is stagnating, the environment is suffering and services are declining, despite Australia posting its 21st successive year of economic growth, as it is now defined.

Undeterred by the Greens' recent falls in opinion polls and poor results in NSW local elections, the Tasmanian senator who took over from the popular Bob Brown in March will say the economy is a tool which is not delivering Australians the life outcomes they desire.     Sad

She says the idea of ''decoupling'' economic growth from environmental harm is seen as ''heresy'' in Australia.

But she asserts that ''surely it is time that those who claim that economic growth derived from resource extraction and pollution is the only path be the ones labelled wacky, irresponsible, divorced from reality or connected to the CIA''.

''I am for growing natural, human, social, manufactured and financial capital and I am against growing global warming, species extinction, poverty, poor health, conflict and corruption,'' her prepared notes for the speech to the National Press Club say.

''If economic growth as it is currently measured isn't actually making us happier, healthier, cleverer or safer then it isn't real growth. If we are growing our economy in defiance of physical limits, that isn't real growth, it's a confidence trick.

''On the other hand, if people are getting happier and healthier, if we're protecting and restoring the environment … if our schools, universities and research institutions are thriving, if we're helping unemployed people find worthwhile jobs … surely this is real growth, regardless of what our GDP numbers show.''

When asked how her leadership would differ from that of Mr Brown, Senator Milne once said the ''Greens haven't been, I think, successful enough in selling our economic vision''.     Smiley

Her speech makes that ''vision'' clear, arguing that gross domestic product is useful for measuring tax revenue, but not for measuring the real progress of a nation.

''GDP measures what we make and consume … it ignores work done in the home and volunteer work across society. It disregards the entrenched gap between rich and poor. It loves a catastrophe like a car accident or the Queensland floods because they generate economic activity, regardless of the human cost'', she says.

As Labor and the Coalition battle to find budget savings, Senator Milne proposes some new spending, including lifting unemployment benefits by $50 a week and a ''goal'' of increasing research and development funding from 2.2 per cent to 3 per cent of GDP.     Smiley

And she insists that around the world her views are ''becoming mainstream'', citing the economists Joseph Stiglitz, Paul Krugman, Amartya Sen, politicians including Robert Kennedy and even a report from the World Economic Forum, which this year debated the future of capitalism.

In March, the miner Clive Palmer claimed the Greens were part of a conspiracy with the CIA against Australian miners to benefit US mining interests, a claim he later retracted.     Grin


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Reply #1 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 8:27am
 
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CHRISTINE MILNE will use her first big speech as Greens leader to question Australia's faith in economic growth at any cost.




Im with you there Chissy


how about we all put our feet up for a week or two and see what happens.

just for a laugh.
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Reply #2 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 8:28am
 
As Labor and the Coalition battle to find budget savings, Senator Milne proposes some new spending, including lifting unemployment benefits by $50 a week and a ''goal'' of increasing research and development funding from 2.2 per cent to 3 per cent of GDP.     Smiley
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Reply #3 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 8:33am
 
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As Labor and the Coalition battle to find budget savings, Senator Milne proposes some new spending, including lifting unemployment benefits by $50 a week and a ''goal'' of increasing research and development funding from 2.2 per cent to 3 per cent of GDP.     Smiley





sounds good.. how many votes will that get?... does she happen to say where that money will come from?????..

probably out of your pocket crook...again and again...as more people end up unemployed so that cost goes up...

there is a huge cloud hanging over the car making  industry in this country. perhaps the bicycle industry will save them
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Reply #4 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 8:44am
 
Does anyone say where the money is coming from.  How about it Mr Abbott.  Where is the extra money coming from, that you want to spend on defence?.   Sad
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Reply #5 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 8:46am
 
Milne and the greens have it right. Future generations will attest to that, but we won't be here to see.

Or maybe nature will take care of things on our behalf, after all......growth is finished! Kaput!

RIP GROWTH
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Reply #6 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 9:08am
 
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Does anyone say where the money is coming from.  How about it Mr Abbott.  Where is the extra money coming from, that you want to spend on defence?.   Sad


He might go cap in hand to the Chinese. It's a well worn path by now with the ALP having visited the well many times. It's that simple.
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Reply #7 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 9:18am
 
Milne needs to understand that rewarding something means you get more of it.

Reward effort and innovation and you get more effort and innovation.

Reward people for being unemployed and you will get more unemployed.

She is a fruit loop...........

....and the only thing 'skewed' is her politics.....skewed farrrrrr left Cheesy
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Reply #8 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 9:21am
 
No one gets rewarded for being unemployed.  However she is right.  The unemployed are long overdue, a fair and just increase.   Wink
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Reply #9 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 9:32am
 
no , its impossible for a serious thinker to take her party seriously.
you cannot call for all the cuts to development, mining, farming ,logging in one breath
without also calling for a massive winding back in government spending at the same time.

as the economic pie would shrink, the greens would HAVE to call for major cuts to
asylum seeker spending
cuts to welfare
abolishment of the NDIS
reduction in education spending
abolishment of the dental scheme.

all of the above can only be funded by the very industries the greens want gone,

their position is childish.
they are like the 2 year old at the checkout nagging for a chocalate,
they should largely be ignored until they start to talk in terms of balanced policies and NOT populist nonsense. Angry Angry Angry
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Reply #10 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 9:33am
 
Milne discussing economics is akin to me discussing the internal mechanics of the Sudanese parliament.

This from a woman who heads a party that -

1) Would see some of us pay a 50% tax rate
2) Decimate the main industry of Australia with the loss of tens of thousands of jobs
3) Wants to increase the cost of living to families across Australia.


For a complete buffoon such as Milne to even look at the subject of economics and priorities - when her party is so far out of kilter is offensive to say the least.

I'm surprised at you Imcrook supporting a party that have shown they couldn't give a bugger about the economic well being of middle and lower Australia - all in their pursuit of nonsense policies driven by a beautiful green world (usually LSD fuellled).
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Reply #11 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 9:42am
 
I believe she is on the national press club today.  Why not watch it and see what she has to say?.   Smiley
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Reply #12 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 11:30am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 26th, 2012 at 9:33am:
Milne discussing economics is akin to me discussing the internal mechanics of the Sudanese parliament.

This from a woman who heads a party that -

1) Would see some of us pay a 50% tax rate
2) Decimate the main industry of Australia with the loss of tens of thousands of jobs
3) Wants to increase the cost of living to families across Australia.



For a complete buffoon such as Milne to even look at the subject of economics and priorities - when her party is so far out of kilter is offensive to say the least.

I'm surprised at you Imcrook supporting a party that have shown they couldn't give a bugger about the economic well being of middle and lower Australia - all in their pursuit of nonsense policies driven by a beautiful green world (usually LSD fuellled).


Andrei,
For the record -
1) That has already happened & the world didn't end.
2) That is already happening now & has very little to do with either major Australian Political or the Greens.
3) That is also already happening, as witnessed by a declining disposable income, particularly over the last decade. I also expect that disposable income will continue to shrink, for some time, yet!

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Reply #13 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 11:41am
 
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Does anyone say where the money is coming from.  How about it Mr Abbott.  Where is the extra money coming from, that you want to spend on defence?.   Sad


Own goal there Crook.

So how about it Milne, where is the money coming from;
Senator Milne proposes some new spending, including lifting unemployment benefits by $50 a week and a ''goal'' of increasing research and development funding from 2.2 per cent to 3 per cent of GDP.
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Reply #14 - Sep 26th, 2012 at 11:43am
 
perceptions_now wrote on Sep 26th, 2012 at 11:30am:
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 26th, 2012 at 9:33am:
Milne discussing economics is akin to me discussing the internal mechanics of the Sudanese parliament.

This from a woman who heads a party that -

1) Would see some of us pay a 50% tax rate
2) Decimate the main industry of Australia with the loss of tens of thousands of jobs
3) Wants to increase the cost of living to families across Australia.



For a complete buffoon such as Milne to even look at the subject of economics and priorities - when her party is so far out of kilter is offensive to say the least.

I'm surprised at you Imcrook supporting a party that have shown they couldn't give a bugger about the economic well being of middle and lower Australia - all in their pursuit of nonsense policies driven by a beautiful green world (usually LSD fuellled).


Andrei,
For the record -
1) That has already happened & the world didn't end.
2) That is already happening now & has very little to do with either major Australian Political or the Greens.
3) That is also already happening, as witnessed by a declining disposable income, particularly over the last decade. I also expect that disposable income will continue to shrink, for some time, yet!




You support people in the middle income brackets paying HALF of their income in tax???

That is NEVER acceptable.

People spend their own money better than any Government will.
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