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Re: Got my first leccy bill since the Carbon Tax
Reply #120 - Sep 24^th, 2012 at 8:43pm

Bertram wrote on Sep 24^th, 2012 at 8:30pm:

can you not see that the link carries a letter by prof manne of la trobe to the editor of the australian? maybe you can't. here is the letter at that link:

USING Gerard Henderson as its source, Cut & Paste (12-13/5) suggests I should be ashamed that I am employed at a university that was 131st of the nation’s top 500 carbon polluters.

La Trobe is on the list for the carbon tax because it produces its own energy from natural gas, a cleaner energy source than other fossil fuels. Our co-generation plant, which has operated since 1993, is twice as efficient as the brown coal generators that supply the rest of Victoria.

Although I had no role in the decision, the fact that we are powered by the cleanest burning fossil fuel is one reason that I am not ashamed, but proud to be a member of La Trobe University.

Robert Manne, La Trobe University, Vic

it is one thing to be passionate. it is not the same as being blinkered. you have passed the test for the former with flying colours and you are now within a toucher of the latter. a big disservice to your cause.

So you're telling me that LaTrobe has it's own commercial co-generation plant but that you think it should be exempt from paying the carbon price?

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Re: Got my first leccy bill since the Carbon Tax
Reply #121 - Sep 24^th, 2012 at 8:45pm

Oh, this is too good Grin

http://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2012/article/la-trobe-university-and-the...

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LA TROBE UNIVERSITY AND THE CARBON TAX

24 May 2012

La Trobe University has calculated it

is about quarter of a million dollars better off under the new carbon tax regime

because it produces energy for its Melbourne campus from its own gas-fired cogeneration plant.

‘More importantly, our carbon emissions would be much higher if we were to rely on brown coal generators that supply most of the rest of Victoria,’ says Pro Vice-Chancellor (Sustainability) Professor Carol Adams.

‘So the Carbon Pricing Mechanism highlights our efforts in acting responsibly and looking after the interests of today’s students and those of future generations.’

La Trobe University’s co-generation plant produces electricity along with hot water and heating from the one natural gas energy source. It has operated for nearly two decades and is twice as carbon efficient as brown coal power generation.

With some 25,000 staff and students on the Melbourne campus, the plant serves a population the size of a small city.

‘La Trobe is the only university on the carbon tax list because we produce so much of our own energy, sometimes even selling it back into the State grid. But it’s much cleaner and less polluting energy than that produced by other fossil fuels,’ says Professor Adams.

Continuous monitoring

La Trobe continually monitors its sustainability performance, a process which involves contributions from more than 100 people from all areas of the University.

‘We publish this data annually and are one of the few universities in the world to prepare such a thorough report,’ she says. ‘Our report is verified by external assurers and uses the Global Reporting Initiative at A+ application level.’

The report outlines La Trobe’s environmental, social and economic impact as well as the work it is doing through education, research and community engagement.

‘While we have plans in place to achieve long-term targets, our performance in energy and water consumption, as well as emissions resulting from staff business travel, leave room for improvement.’

To help achieve its energy use target by 2020, La Trobe has joined Victoria’s ‘Greener Government Building Program.

Read more about the full range of sustainability activity at La Trobe here: www.latrobe.edu.au/sustainability

The latest annual report, ‘Creating Futures’ is available for here: www.latrobe.edu.au/sustainability/report

La Trobe’s previous report, ‘Responsible Futures’ won the 'Best First Time' sustainability report award from ‘corporateregister.com global’, the world’s largest directory of non-financial reports comprising almost 40,000 reports from 160 countries, read more: www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2011/article/sustainability-efforts-awarded

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Re: Got my first leccy bill since the Carbon Tax
Reply #122 - Sep 24^th, 2012 at 8:58pm

Prevailing wrote on Sep 24^th, 2012 at 3:37pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 24^th, 2012 at 3:34pm:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 24^th, 2012 at 3:27pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 24^th, 2012 at 3:23pm:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 24^th, 2012 at 3:10pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 24^th, 2012 at 3:04pm:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 24^th, 2012 at 2:59pm:

Pretending they are compensating you while they are actually robbing you for their own welfare is the common deceptive logic of overarching planned totalitarian dictatorships....

Absolutely!
I agree with the lunatic.

The last thing I need or want is support from an ill mannered and poorly raised miserable cretin like you...

Mate you need all the support you can get - from wherever quarter that may come.

I would suggest though, it is best they are part of the medical profession.

I DO NOT RECALL EVER ENGAGING YOU

IN CONVERSATION NOR HAVE I INVITED YOU TO DO

SO OR GIVEN LICENSE TO YOU TO CONVERSE WITH

ME IN ANY WAY THROUGH RECIPROCITY NOW GO

AWAY WITH YOUR NASTY TROLLING AND AMUSE

YOURSELF WITH SOMEONE WHO GIVES A STUFF

WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY....I HOPE THAT THERE IS NO

PART OF SHUT UP AND BUGGER OFF YOU CANNOT

UNDERSTAND...

Lesson learned

DON'T AGGRIVATE LUNATICS

CLEARLY THE LESSON IS NOT LEARNED,

You are STILL unaware as to the EXTENT of your LUNACY ?

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Re: Got my first leccy bill since the Carbon Tax
Reply #123 - Oct 6^th, 2012 at 9:18pm

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 24^th, 2012 at 8:43pm:

Bertram wrote on Sep 24^th, 2012 at 8:30pm:

can you not see that the link carries a letter by prof manne of la trobe to the editor of the australian? maybe you can't. here is the letter at that link:

USING Gerard Henderson as its source, Cut & Paste (12-13/5) suggests I should be ashamed that I am employed at a university that was 131st of the nation’s top 500 carbon polluters.

La Trobe is on the list for the carbon tax because it produces its own energy from natural gas, a cleaner energy source than other fossil fuels. Our co-generation plant, which has operated since 1993, is twice as efficient as the brown coal generators that supply the rest of Victoria.

Although I had no role in the decision, the fact that we are powered by the cleanest burning fossil fuel is one reason that I am not ashamed, but proud to be a member of La Trobe University.

Robert Manne, La Trobe University, Vic

it is one thing to be passionate. it is not the same as being blinkered. you have passed the test for the former with flying colours and you are now within a toucher of the latter. a big disservice to your cause.

So you're telling me that LaTrobe has it's own commercial co-generation plant but that you think it should be exempt from paying the carbon price?

not me. prof manne is telling you.

he is saying that the carbon tax, being a blunt instrument, is a stupid thing. you should write to him if you think he is wrong.

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Re: Got my first leccy bill since the Carbon Tax
Reply #124 - Oct 6^th, 2012 at 9:48pm

Bertram wrote on Oct 6^th, 2012 at 9:18pm:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 24^th, 2012 at 8:43pm:

Bertram wrote on Sep 24^th, 2012 at 8:30pm:

can you not see that the link carries a letter by prof manne of la trobe to the editor of the australian? maybe you can't. here is the letter at that link:

USING Gerard Henderson as its source, Cut & Paste (12-13/5) suggests I should be ashamed that I am employed at a university that was 131st of the nation’s top 500 carbon polluters.

La Trobe is on the list for the carbon tax because it produces its own energy from natural gas, a cleaner energy source than other fossil fuels. Our co-generation plant, which has operated since 1993, is twice as efficient as the brown coal generators that supply the rest of Victoria.

Although I had no role in the decision, the fact that we are powered by the cleanest burning fossil fuel is one reason that I am not ashamed, but proud to be a member of La Trobe University.

Robert Manne, La Trobe University, Vic

it is one thing to be passionate. it is not the same as being blinkered. you have passed the test for the former with flying colours and you are now within a toucher of the latter. a big disservice to your cause.

So you're telling me that LaTrobe has it's own commercial co-generation plant but that you think it should be exempt from paying the carbon price?

not me. prof manne is telling you.

he is saying that the carbon tax, being a blunt instrument, is a stupid thing. you should write to him if you think he is wrong.

I am not calling you a liar mate but can you highlight the section where he makes this claim.....Thank you???

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Re: Got my first leccy bill since the Carbon Tax
Reply #125 - Oct 6^th, 2012 at 10:02pm

I am employed at a university that was 131st of the nation’s top 500 carbon polluters.

La Trobe is on the list for the carbon tax because it produces its own energy from natural gas, a cleaner energy source than other fossil fuels. Our co-generation plant, which has operated since 1993, is twice as efficient as the brown coal generators that supply the rest of Victoria.

we are powered by the cleanest burning fossil fuel

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Re: Got my first leccy bill since the Carbon Tax
Reply #126 - Oct 6^th, 2012 at 10:12pm

Bertram wrote on Oct 6^th, 2012 at 10:02pm:

I am employed at a university that was 131st of the nation’s top 500 carbon polluters.

La Trobe is on the list for the carbon tax because it produces its own energy from natural gas, a cleaner energy source than other fossil fuels. Our co-generation plant, which has operated since 1993, is twice as efficient as the brown coal generators that supply the rest of Victoria.

we are powered by the cleanest burning fossil fuel

he is saying that the carbon tax, being a blunt instrument, is a stupid thing. you should write to him if you think he is wrong.

Yes very good but.....I am not calling you a liar mate but can you highlight the section where he makes this claim.....Thank you???

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Re: Got my first leccy bill since the Carbon Tax
Reply #127 - Oct 10^th, 2012 at 10:44pm

FriYAY wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2012 at 2:52pm:

Small increase in power usage, bill up by nearly 50% for me.

Don't know what is to blame but it is a dam big increase.

buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 10:32pm:

adelcrow wrote on Oct 10^th, 2012 at 5:11pm:

Abbott got sprung lying yet again Grin

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-10-10/abbott-caught-out-on-use-of-pensioner27s-p...

LIAR, LIAR, LIAR !

6 hours 26 minutes ago

Question Time in Federal Parliament today returned to the more regular themes of the carbon tax and the economy, after yesterday's extraordinary move to try to force Peter Slipper out of the Speaker's role.

But Labor says Opposition Leader Tony Abbott has been caught out in his use of a "pensioner's" electricity bill as part of his anti-carbon tax campaign.

In questioning the Prime Minister about Hetty Verolme's bill, Mr Abbott said the customer "nearly had a heart attack" when she got her most recent power bill.

It had more than doubled since her previous bill to $1,563 for the months of June and July

, and Mr Abbott wanted to know what advice Julia Gillard had for the Perth pensioner.

He followed up with a supplementary question: "With an $800 increase in just one bill of which 70 per cent is due to the carbon tax, how can the Prime Minister possibly claim that Hetty Verolme's compensation is in any way adequate?"

Labor challenged Mr Abbott to table the bill in Parliament so it could verify Mr Abbott's claims, meaning it has now been made publicly available.

An electricity consumption graph on the side of the bill shows that most of the increase was due to a dramatic increase in power usage at Mrs Verolme's home.

It also includes a note saying that electricity prices had increased on July 1 by 2.255 cents per unit because of the carbon tax, which "represents an estimated increase of 9.13 per cent for an average daily usage of 15.89 units".

That is less than the Treasury forecast of a 10 per cent increase in electricity costs because of the carbon tax.

"Once again, the Leader of the Opposition caught out just like he was on Whyalla, caught out just like he was on the coal industry, caught out just like he was on lamb roasts, peddling fear (and) peddling reckless negativity," Ms Gillard told Parliament.

"The one thing you'll never hear from the Leader of the Opposition is anything that sounds like the truth about carbon pricing.

"The Opposition knows that the increase around the country has been what was predicted - 10 per cent or less."

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