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MOTR Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6646	Global warming protest. Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:37pm A mate was telling me there was a protest being organised to highlight the failure of the press to report the Arctic melt. He wasn't sure who was organising it but he thought it was meant to coincide with the expected minimum. Can anyone tell me where I need to be?
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Reply #1 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:40pm

MOTR wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:37pm:

A mate was telling me there was a protest being organised to highlight the failure of the press to report the Arctic melt. He wasn't sure who was organising it but he thought it was meant to coincide with the expected minimum. Can anyone tell me where I need to be?

It's just a rumour, mate, like the rest of the AGW caper. Kids talking to other kids.

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Reply #2 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:43pm

Soren wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:40pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:37pm:

A mate was telling me there was a protest being organised to highlight the failure of the press to report the Arctic melt. He wasn't sure who was organising it but he thought it was meant to coincide with the expected minimum. Can anyone tell me where I need to be?

It's just a rumour, mate, like the rest of the AGW caper. Kids talking to other kids.

I don't get how you can be so dismissive of the scientific consensus.

Why are you so convinced our scientists are getting it wrong?

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Reply #3 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:34pm

MOTR wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:43pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:40pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:37pm:

A mate was telling me there was a protest being organised to highlight the failure of the press to report the Arctic melt. He wasn't sure who was organising it but he thought it was meant to coincide with the expected minimum. Can anyone tell me where I need to be?

It's just a rumour, mate, like the rest of the AGW caper. Kids talking to other kids.

I don't get how you can be so dismissive of the scientific consensus.

Why are you so convinced our scientists are getting it wrong?

A science degree is no inoculation against group-think.

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Reply #4 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:51pm

Soren wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:34pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:43pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:40pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:37pm:

A mate was telling me there was a protest being organised to highlight the failure of the press to report the Arctic melt. He wasn't sure who was organising it but he thought it was meant to coincide with the expected minimum. Can anyone tell me where I need to be?

It's just a rumour, mate, like the rest of the AGW caper. Kids talking to other kids.

I don't get how you can be so dismissive of the scientific consensus.

Why are you so convinced our scientists are getting it wrong?

A science degree is no inoculation against group-think.

No.

Avoiding Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt is inoculation against group-think.

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Reply #5 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:56pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:51pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:34pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:43pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:40pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:37pm:

A mate was telling me there was a protest being organised to highlight the failure of the press to report the Arctic melt. He wasn't sure who was organising it but he thought it was meant to coincide with the expected minimum. Can anyone tell me where I need to be?

It's just a rumour, mate, like the rest of the AGW caper. Kids talking to other kids.

I don't get how you can be so dismissive of the scientific consensus.

Why are you so convinced our scientists are getting it wrong?

A science degree is no inoculation against group-think.

No.

Avoiding Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt is inoculation against group-think.

See what I mean, MOTR? Rabbit thinks his clever. He is insinuating that Bolt and Jones cause 'denialism'.

If AGW boosters are so stupid about such a simple thing, how could you side with them in matters far, far more complex, such as the climate?

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Reply #6 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:02pm

MOTR wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:43pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:40pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:37pm:

A mate was telling me there was a protest being organised to highlight the failure of the press to report the Arctic melt. He wasn't sure who was organising it but he thought it was meant to coincide with the expected minimum. Can anyone tell me where I need to be?

It's just a rumour, mate, like the rest of the AGW caper. Kids talking to other kids.

I don't get how you can be so dismissive of the scientific consensus.

Why are you so convinced our scientists are getting it wrong?

But science is not consensus, it's facts and evidence...and your pulling up short on these 2.

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Reply #7 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:21pm

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Entropy...
"4. The tendency for all matter and energy in the universe to evolve toward a state of inert uniformity.
5. Inevitable and steady deterioration of a system or society."

Fighting against inevitable decay and death is not rational...learn to live in the moment and enjoy the time you have which will be taken from you by death whether you like it or not. Global Warming hysteria stems from an group existential fear of death...get religion or get over it. Death walks beside you, it is your companion, you are worm food...quit thinking you can cheat it, tax it, bribe it...

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Reply #8 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:35pm

namnugenot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:02pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:43pm:

Soren wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:40pm:

MOTR wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:37pm:

A mate was telling me there was a protest being organised to highlight the failure of the press to report the Arctic melt. He wasn't sure who was organising it but he thought it was meant to coincide with the expected minimum. Can anyone tell me where I need to be?

It's just a rumour, mate, like the rest of the AGW caper. Kids talking to other kids.

I don't get how you can be so dismissive of the scientific consensus.

Why are you so convinced our scientists are getting it wrong?

But science is not consensus, it's facts and evidence...and your pulling up short on these 2.

Which "facts and evidence" are you denying?

Are you denying that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?
Are you denying that the atmospheric concentration of CO2 has increased significantly in recent decades?
Are you denying that the majority of the increase in the atmospheric concentration of CO2 in anthropogenic?
Are you denying there has been a measured increase in the amount of downward longwave radiation in recent decades?
Are you denying there has been measured decrease in outgoing longwave radiation at the same wavelengths as those absorbed by CO2 in recent decades?
Are you denying there has been an observed increase in global temperature in recent decades?
Are you denying there has been an observed increase in sea level in recent decades?
Are you denying there has been a decrease in global glacial mass balance in recent decades?
Are you denying there has been a decrease in Arctic sea ice in recent decades?
Are you denying there has been a measured decrease in ocean pH in recent decades?

Which part of the mountain of "facts and evidence" that exist in the body of scientific literature are you trying to pretend does not exist?

Could you explain?

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Reply #9 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:39pm

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:21pm:

[quote] Global Warming hysteria stems from an group existential fear of death.

No - it stems from over a century of empirical observations which support the theory that an increase in atmospheric CO2 causes energy at certain wavelengths to be redirected back towards the surface of the earth resulting in an increase in temperature.

Denying will not make it go away.

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Reply #10 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:46pm

You are nothing but a collection of atoms and elements - the Earth is a dead rock in space, one day the sun will be extinguished, the earth will not be able to sustain life...you cannot stop scientific certainty with a tax and one day soon you will return to your most basic elementary form...for dust thou art and unto dust shalt thou return. In the Grave there is no conscious continuance of existence...you are annihilated...

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Reply #11 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:50pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:39pm:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:21pm:

[quote] Global Warming hysteria stems from an group existential fear of death.

No - it stems from over a century of empirical observations which support the theory that an increase in atmospheric CO2 causes energy at certain wavelengths to be redirected back towards the surface of the earth resulting in an increase in temperature.

Denying will not make it go away.

You are describing entropy...deal with it, Entropy is a certainty we cannot affect or stop...order breaks down and deteriorates into disorder...

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Reply #12 - Sep 7^th, 2012 at 12:11am

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:50pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:39pm:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:21pm:

[quote] Global Warming hysteria stems from an group existential fear of death.

No - it stems from over a century of empirical observations which support the theory that an increase in atmospheric CO2 causes energy at certain wavelengths to be redirected back towards the surface of the earth resulting in an increase in temperature.

Denying will not make it go away.

You are describing entropy...deal with it, Entropy is a certainty we cannot affect or stop...order breaks down and deteriorates into disorder...

No. I haven't described entropy at all.

I described the long standing theory supported by overwhelming empirical evidence that an increase in atmospheric CO2 causes energy at certain wavelengths to be redirected back towards the surface of the earth resulting in an increase in temperature.

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Reply #13 - Sep 7^th, 2012 at 12:13am

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:46pm:

You are nothing but a collection of atoms and elements - the Earth is a dead rock in space, one day the sun will be extinguished, the earth will not be able to sustain life...you cannot stop scientific certainty with a tax and one day soon you will return to your most basic elementary form...for dust thou art and unto dust shalt thou return. In the Grave there is no conscious continuance of existence...you are annihilated...

Yes. Absolutely correct - I am nothing but a collection of atoms and elements - the Earth is a dead rock in space, one day the sun will be extinguished, the earth will not be able to sustain life...you cannot stop scientific certainty with a tax and one day soon you will return to your most basic elementary form...for dust thou art and unto dust shalt thou return. In the Grave there is no conscious continuance of existence...you are annihilated.

What does this have to do with the long standing theory supported by overwhelming empirical evidence that an increase in atmospheric CO2 causes energy at certain wavelengths to be redirected back towards the surface of the earth resulting in an increase in temperature?

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Reply #14 - Sep 7^th, 2012 at 12:22am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 7^th, 2012 at 12:13am:

Prevailing wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:46pm:

You are nothing but a collection of atoms and elements - the Earth is a dead rock in space, one day the sun will be extinguished, the earth will not be able to sustain life...you cannot stop scientific certainty with a tax and one day soon you will return to your most basic elementary form...for dust thou art and unto dust shalt thou return. In the Grave there is no conscious continuance of existence...you are annihilated...

Yes. Absolutely correct - I am nothing but a collection of atoms and elements - the Earth is a dead rock in space, one day the sun will be extinguished, the earth will not be able to sustain life...you cannot stop scientific certainty with a tax and one day soon you will return to your most basic elementary form...for dust thou art and unto dust shalt thou return. In the Grave there is no conscious continuance of existence...you are annihilated.

What does this have to do with the long standing theory supported by overwhelming empirical evidence that an increase in atmospheric CO2 causes energy at certain wavelengths to be redirected back towards the surface of the earth resulting in an increase in temperature?

Everything deteriorates from order to disorder...measure it any way you like...leave a brand new car out in the elements for forty years and it will rust, deteriorate and begin to break down as the certain scientific law of Entropy dictates...it is unstoppable, the universe will one day contract in on itself into nothingness...the particles and substance of the universe are random, chaotic and we are a part of that and guilt doctrines cannot be ascribed to us unless you are trying to impose some psuedo religious trip on us...

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