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Re: Turnbull swipes at Abbott
Reply #15 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:17am

Shane B wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:13am:

Turnbull needs to keep his mouth shut.

The sooner this wet gets disendorsed the better. He can then follow his true calling as the Labor for Wentworth.

He's a useless prick.

Then he's a useless prick with both a brain and a large following. But that's fine... you stick with that useful prick with no brain and even less support.

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Re: Turnbull swipes at Abbott
Reply #16 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:29am

Shane B wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:13am:

Turnbull needs to keep his mouth shut.

The sooner this wet gets disendorsed the better. He can then follow his true calling as the Labor for Wentworth.

He's a useless prick.

nah,
malcolms blue blood liberal, macquarie bank, media , barrister.

tones the labor stooge, trainee priest, big spending, thinks government should fix the carbon problem, doesnt do research before he opens mouth.
it is no surprise he is down with jules, as popular as herpes,

their personalities (or lack there of) are in perfect sync. i remember thinking that years ago when they used to be on kochies morning show together. i thought they were going to hold hands on the couch

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Re: Turnbull swipes at Abbott
Reply #17 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:35am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:52am:

I'm interested Cods, what would you call something that is paid for by taxation?

not sure that I understand that smithy... if you are asking do I believe in taxation of course I do...

I visit a hospital... its paid for out of taxes and I appreciate that..

what would I call something that is paid for by taxation???

a tax funded necessity???????..

I dont know what you mean..are you saying I am complaining about TAXES??????..I am past doing that old bean.

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Re: Turnbull swipes at Abbott
Reply #18 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:36am

Here's an idea Shane,
Instead of Turnbull leaving the party he has been a member of since the 70's (probably longer than Tone)
Why don't you & Tone & the rest of you piss poor imitations of the GOP bugger off & form your own CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE Party?
That would leave the LIBERAL PARTY to funnily enough LIBERALS, not parasitic conservatives who know they'd have no hope on their own.

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Re: Turnbull swipes at Abbott
Reply #19 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:38am

cods wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:35am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:52am:

I'm interested Cods, what would you call something that is paid for by taxation?

not sure that I understand that smithy... if you are asking do I believe in taxation of course I do...

I visit a hospital... its paid for out of taxes and I appreciate that..

what would I call something that is paid for by taxation???

a tax funded necessity???????..

I dont know what you mean..are you saying I am complaining about TAXES??????..I am past doing that old bean.

No Cods not implying anything, just asking a question

I'll ask it again with a little more clarity,

Would you consider something funded by taxation a tax?

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Re: Turnbull swipes at Abbott
Reply #20 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:40am

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:29am:

Shane B wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 10:13am:

Turnbull needs to keep his mouth shut.

The sooner this wet gets disendorsed the better. He can then follow his true calling as the Labor for Wentworth.

He's a useless prick.

nah,
malcolms blue blood liberal, macquarie bank, media , barrister.

tones the labor stooge, trainee priest, big spending, thinks government should fix the carbon problem, doesnt do research before he opens mouth.
it is no surprise he is down with jules, as popular as herpes,

their personalities (or lack there of) are in perfect sync. i remember thinking that years ago when they used to be on kochies morning show together. i thought they were going to hold hands on the couch

why do you lefties undermine someone who had tried another career??? what is it with you people.. do you really think someone who has done nothing but be a union rep.. or be a professional politician...is the way we should elect people to high office???.

I dont have a problem with anyone be they doctors lawyers or road fixers... as long as they are intelligent..and honest...honesty is something I put above most other things..

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Re: Turnbull swipes at Abbott
Reply #21 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:47am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:38am:

cods wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:35am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:52am:

I'm interested Cods, what would you call something that is paid for by taxation?

not sure that I understand that smithy... if you are asking do I believe in taxation of course I do...

I visit a hospital... its paid for out of taxes and I appreciate that..

what would I call something that is paid for by taxation???

a tax funded necessity???????..

I dont know what you mean..are you saying I am complaining about TAXES??????..I am past doing that old bean.

No Cods not implying anything, just asking a question

I'll ask it again with a little more clarity,

Would you consider something funded by taxation a tax?

well look at it this way smithy...

every thing the govt spends is a TAX..oh sneaky I know.. like rego for one.. even speeding fines to me its all TAX..

so I cant think of one thing the govt does that they dont use TAXES for..so I guess the answer is yes..

I have always said a TAX IS A TAX IS A TAX no matter what you call it..a levy by any other name is a TAX

its what they do with it that bothers me..

so what point are you making smithy?????.

can you tell me where the govt gets money from that isnt a TAX on someone or something?

who spends TAXES? as far as I know its only the govts of the day sadly in the case of the present one.. we are not getting good value.

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Re: Turnbull swipes at Abbott
Reply #22 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:49am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:36am:

Here's an idea Shane,
Instead of Turnbull leaving the party he has been a member of since the 70's (probably longer than Tone)
Why don't you & Tone & the rest of you piss poor imitations of the GOP bugger off & form your own CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE Party?
That would leave the LIBERAL PARTY to funnily enough LIBERALS, not parasitic conservatives who know they'd have no hope on their own.

ugh! how ugly is that tirade?

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Re: Turnbull swipes at Abbott
Reply #23 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:56am

cods wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:47am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:38am:

cods wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:35am:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 9:52am:

I'm interested Cods, what would you call something that is paid for by taxation?

not sure that I understand that smithy... if you are asking do I believe in taxation of course I do...

I visit a hospital... its paid for out of taxes and I appreciate that..

what would I call something that is paid for by taxation???

a tax funded necessity???????..

I dont know what you mean..are you saying I am complaining about TAXES??????..I am past doing that old bean.

No Cods not implying anything, just asking a question

I'll ask it again with a little more clarity,

Would you consider something funded by taxation a tax?

well look at it this way smithy...

every thing the govt spends is a TAX..oh sneaky I know.. like rego for one.. even speeding fines to me its all TAX..

so I cant think of one thing the govt does that they dont use TAXES for..so I guess the answer is yes..

I have always said a TAX IS A TAX IS A TAX no matter what you call it..a levy by any other name is a TAX

its what they do with it that bothers me..

so what point are you making smithy?????.

can you tell me where the govt gets money from that isnt a TAX on someone or something?

who spends TAXES? as far as I know its only the govts of the day sadly in the case of the present one.. we are not getting good value.

Then how can Tony tell you he will not have a carbon tax when his direct action is funded by taxation?

Is Tony being honest, after all not 10 minutes ago you posted
cods wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:40am:

honesty is something I put above most other things..

AS for this

cods wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:49am:

ugh! how ugly is that tirade?

Truth is often ugly, which is why it is avoided.

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: Turnbull swipes at Abbott Reply #24 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:59am Direct action is not always funded by taxation. I can tell you this from experience. There is a hydro facility outside of Haifa that was built by the Government to improve energy delivery away from traditional source. It was not funded from taxes.
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Re: Turnbull swipes at Abbott
Reply #25 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 12:06pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:59am:

Direct action is not always funded by taxation.

I can tell you this from experience.

There is a hydro facility outside of Haifa that was built by the Government to improve energy delivery away from traditional source.

It was not funded from taxes.

We are not in Israel,
Direct Action Australia is funded solely by the Australian Government though taxation.
Revenue may come into it once developed but full start up costs are funded by my tax $$$

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Reply #27 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 12:21pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 12:06pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:59am:

Direct action is not always funded by taxation.

I can tell you this from experience.

There is a hydro facility outside of Haifa that was built by the Government to improve energy delivery away from traditional source.

It was not funded from taxes.

We are not in Israel,
Direct Action Australia is funded solely by the Australian Government though taxation.
Revenue may come into it once developed but full start up costs are funded by my tax $$$

I am not telling you that you are.
There is no reason Australia could not invest in the same technology and it does not come from taxes.

To use taxes is a easy way out and you are not being truthful saying it always costs taxes.
It does not. No matter which country it is.

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Re: Turnbull swipes at Abbott
Reply #28 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 12:29pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 12:21pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 12:06pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 11:59am:

Direct action is not always funded by taxation.

I can tell you this from experience.

There is a hydro facility outside of Haifa that was built by the Government to improve energy delivery away from traditional source.

It was not funded from taxes.

We are not in Israel,
Direct Action Australia is funded solely by the Australian Government though taxation.
Revenue may come into it once developed but full start up costs are funded by my tax $$$

I am not telling you that you are.
There is no reason Australia could not invest in the same technology and it does not come from taxes.

To use taxes is a easy way out and you are not being truthful saying it always costs taxes.
It does not. No matter which country it is.

Don't you understand English?
My posts acknowledges that revenue may come into it but Liberal policy is to fund the start up from General revenue.
Funniest thing is no tax $$ are being used with Labors CARBON TAX, yet only Tax Dollars are being used by the man promising to abolish the Carbon Tax. Grin

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Reply #29 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 12:32pm

what about grants?
Funded private investment?

All of this can come from before the facility is operational?

Toyota part funded the hydro facility in Haifa to use water for energy.

None of this came from taxes.

I think a tax on people for climate action is absurd - from any political party.
It is not the people who should pay for any of this.

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