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Maqqa

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14% - that low?!

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Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:04pm

Pre July

There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead
There will be no floating price on the carbon price
We will close brown coal power stations in VIC
Australian Carbon Tax will lower global temperature

Post July

There's a carbon tax
There's a floating price
Brown coal power stations will stay open
Temperature has now dropped

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st Reply #1 - Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:05pm How illuminating!!
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st Reply #2 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 7:37am its the closest thing to backflips...gillard wins GOLD for her backflips..
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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st Reply #3 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 8:13am Did someone say BACKFLIP??
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29949 Gender:	Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st Reply #4 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 1:45pm Gist wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 8:13am: Did someone say BACKFLIP?? http://media.fakeposters.com/results/2012/06/23/rlgx7lflhl.jpg Yes, someone did. Julia won Gold, Silver and Bronze in the "shoot your own foot" event at the dopey olympics.
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st Reply #5 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 4:04pm Nothing about THOMMO and the illegals?
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Prevailing Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7169 Stop Men	Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st Reply #6 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 4:09pm We are pressing from all sides for accountability and transparency...thats why they are panicking...the net is closing in...
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st Reply #7 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 5:38pm We have numbers, Here: Coalition $1.18, Labor $4.50 http://centrebet.com/#Sports/Event/2062830
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rabbitoh07

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Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
Reply #8 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 6:42pm

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

Pre July

There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead

...but I am determined to put a price on carbon.

And that is what we have. No tax. A price on carbon with a 3 year fixed price period.

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

There will be no floating price on the carbon price

Who said that?

There was always going to be a floating price on the carbon price after the 3 year fixed price period.

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

We will close brown coal power stations in VIC

Who said that?

They said they would seek to negotiate the potential closure of up to 2000 megawatts of high pollution electricity generation capacity if it was value for taxpayers money. But it isn't value for taxpayers money.

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

Australian Carbon Tax will lower global temperature

Who said that?
Besides Andrew Bolt?

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aquascoot

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Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
Reply #9 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 6:47pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 5:38pm:

We have numbers,

Here:

Coalition $1.18, Labor $4.50

http://centrebet.com/#Sports/Event/2062830

those numbers are probably more trustworthy than any spin as they represent the combined knowledge of the "pure market" thats actually a lot better for tony than i would have expected. those are black caviar odds. tone is the new black caviar of australian politics. julia (the chestnut mare) is going to have to do be ridden hard with the whip to get anywhere near him at those figures

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rabbitoh07

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Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
Reply #10 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 6:48pm

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

Post July

There's a carbon tax

No - there is a price on carbon with a 3 year fixed price period.

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

There's a floating price

No - we are still in the 3 year fixed price period.

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

Brown coal power stations will stay open

nearly 900 megawatts of high polluting brown coal electricity capacity in the economy has been mothballed and shutdown just in recent weeks. That’s the reality. That’s emissions gone out of the system. That’s almost of the half of the amount that we said we would talk about in Contracts for Closure but we haven’t had to pay for that to happen. The market’s looking after it because there is a carbon price in place. And it’s the same across all the parts of the economy that have a carbon price liability. They will reduce their emissions because they’ve got a price incentive to do so now. You can cut your carbon price liability if you can find ways to reduce your emissions.
http://www.climatechange.gov.au/minister/greg-combet/2012/transcripts/September/TR-257-12.aspx

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

Temperature has now dropped

?!?!?

On what do you base that bizarre claim?

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rabbitoh07

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Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
Reply #11 - Sep 6^th, 2012 at 6:55pm

aquascoot wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 6:47pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 5:38pm:

We have numbers,

Here:

Coalition $1.18, Labor $4.50

http://centrebet.com/#Sports/Event/2062830

those numbers are probably more trustworthy than any spin as they represent the combined knowledge of the "pure market" thats actually a lot better for tony than i would have expected. those are black caviar odds. tone is the new black caviar of australian politics. julia (the chestnut mare) is going to have to do be ridden hard with the whip to get anywhere near him at those figures

I think Black Caviar would be able to answer interviewer's questions a bit more intelligently.

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Armchair_Politician

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Re: Pre July 1st & Post July 1st
Reply #12 - Sep 7^th, 2012 at 8:31am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2012 at 6:42pm:

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

Pre July

There will be no carbon tax under a government I lead

...but I am determined to put a price on carbon.

And that is what we have. No tax. A price on carbon with a 3 year fixed price period.

It is a tax, you dunderhead.

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

There will be no floating price on the carbon price

Who said that?

There was always going to be a floating price on the carbon price after the 3 year fixed price period.

Pardon me, I've been asleep for 3 years because I thought it had only been one month or so since the carbon dioxide tax was forced upon us.

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

We will close brown coal power stations in VIC

Who said that?

They said they would seek to negotiate the potential closure of up to 2000 megawatts of high pollution electricity generation capacity if it was value for taxpayers money. But it isn't value for taxpayers money.

Who said it? Gillard, of course.

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

Australian Carbon Tax will lower global temperature

Who said that?
Besides Andrew Bolt?

See above...

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