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Reply #15 - Sep 4^th, 2012 at 6:29pm

gold_medal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 5:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

Is that your Grade 12 Assignment, Longy? I reckon it is. Bit late for you to be trying to matriculate, wot?

Cheesy

And clearly the content is well beyond your analytical ability or otherwise you would be challenging my conclusions and processes. But alas... you are hardly alone. In fact, you might have noticed that NO ONE has debated the content or conclusions.

I can't imagine why anyone would ignore your sock, Longy.

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Reply #16 - Sep 4^th, 2012 at 6:33pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 6:29pm:

gold_medal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 5:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 4:17pm:

Is that your Grade 12 Assignment, Longy? I reckon it is. Bit late for you to be trying to matriculate, wot?

Cheesy

And clearly the content is well beyond your analytical ability or otherwise you would be challenging my conclusions and processes. But alas... you are hardly alone. In fact, you might have noticed that NO ONE has debated the content or conclusions.

I can't imagine why anyone would ignore your sock, Longy.

So you are confirming that the analysis is above your intellectual reach?

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39965 Gender:	Re: Greens and the balance of power. Reply #17 - Sep 4^th, 2012 at 7:02pm Quote: So you are confirming that the analysis is above your intellectual reach? Until you 'fess up Longy...all I will do is point out your puppetry.
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Upton Sinclair Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 496	Re: Greens and the balance of power. Reply #18 - Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:06pm gold_medal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 9:14am: The Greens are now polling at just 8%. So the entire premise of you argument is based on you not understanding relatively basic concepts like margins of error or being able to read a rogue poll? So I can just dismiss the rest of your post then, right?
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Reply #19 - Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:43pm

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:06pm:

gold_medal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 9:14am:

The Greens are now polling at just 8%.

So the entire premise of you argument is based on you not understanding relatively basic concepts like margins of error or being able to read a rogue poll? So I can just dismiss the rest of your post then, right?

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/files/2012/06/primssidejune5.png

So we have a new ROGUE POLL person - upton...

Heres a cluef for you to consider. Dont come to use with graphs that end 3 months ago and talek about what is happening NOW. that just makes you look silly. And the greens are polling at 8% which even with the maximum MOE still makes them look woeful.

But when you start the desperate ploy of using MOE to support your delusions then you look silly.

Rogue Poll Upton now joins Rogue poll Buzz.

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Reply #20 - Sep 4^th, 2012 at 9:33pm

gold_medal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:43pm:

So we have a new ROGUE POLL person - upton...

So what do you call it when the Greens poll at 15%?

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Heres a cluef for you to consider. Dont come to use with graphs that end 3 months ago and talek about what is happening NOW. that just makes you look silly. And the greens are polling at 8% which even with the maximum MOE still makes them look woeful.

But when you start the desperate ploy of using MOE to support your delusions then you look silly.

Rogue Poll Upton now joins Rogue poll Buzz.

OK, so you're clearly not the smartest guy in the room. I guess we can all just wait for next months Newspoll so we can come back to this thread and point and laugh at your delusional unhinging

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Reply #21 - Sep 4^th, 2012 at 9:50pm

gold_medal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:43pm:

what is happening NOW. that just makes you look silly.

Yes. What IS happening now? Even when we take into account the latest result of 8% the Greens still have an average of 11.14% - they polled at 11.8% in 2010, and you think that's a BOP losing position? Grin

Now THAT makes YOU look silly. Or, more unhinged and hysterical, to be more exact.

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Reply #22 - Sep 4^th, 2012 at 10:09pm

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The Senate voting system has always been the minor parties play ground where a long succession of wannabe third party hopefuls have played out their ambitions in controlling government. From time to time, a minor party gains enough senators through either luck or good policy to hold the Balance of Power

Only one Government in about the last 6 - 8 has had control of the senate. The rest of the time a minor party has held the balance, you could hardly be more definitivly wrong.

You opening opinion was not a good start - not sure it didn't go downhill from there.

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Reply #23 - Sep 4^th, 2012 at 10:13pm

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A double dissolution for the repeal of the Carbon Tax is no empty threat and Tony Abbott has stated very clearly that he intends to use this power if necessary. Unlike Kevin Rudd’s now infamous refusal to use the DD over the CPRS legislation, Abbott has no fear of a DD election.

I would think a DD in 2015 would be unlikely - Abbnott if in power would lose too many seats and the bottom line is that he can not afford his carbon plan anyway - the fixed price in place will do more for less.

More bang for the buck and unlike the abbnott plan it is not payed for from our tax dollars.

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Reply #24 - Sep 4^th, 2012 at 10:26pm

Upton Sinclair wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 9:50pm:

gold_medal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:43pm:

what is happening NOW. that just makes you look silly.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/members/Upton_Sinclair/newspoll.PNG

Yes. What IS happening now? Even when we take into account the latest result of 8% the Greens still have an average of 11.14% - they polled at 11.8% in 2010, and you think that's a BOP losing position? Grin

Now THAT makes YOU look silly. Or, more unhinged and hysterical, to be more exact.

they have now fallen significantly in the last month. its called a TREND.

You are making a wanker of yourself by trying to just ignore this 8% result. it is that kind of delusion which makes you look silly.

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Reply #25 - Sep 4^th, 2012 at 10:28pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 10:09pm:

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The Senate voting system has always been the minor parties play ground where a long succession of wannabe third party hopefuls have played out their ambitions in controlling government. From time to time, a minor party gains enough senators through either luck or good policy to hold the Balance of Power

Only one Government in about the last 6 - 8 has had control of the senate. The rest of the time a minor party has held the balance, you could hardly be more definitivly wrong.

You opening opinion was not a good start - not sure it didn't go downhill from there.

I know that grammar confuses people but I said minor PARTY not PARTIES. there is a very big difference between a disparate group of unaligned senators holding some mythical balance of power and one disciplined party doing so.

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Reply #26 - Sep 4^th, 2012 at 10:29pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 10:13pm:

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A double dissolution for the repeal of the Carbon Tax is no empty threat and Tony Abbott has stated very clearly that he intends to use this power if necessary. Unlike Kevin Rudd’s now infamous refusal to use the DD over the CPRS legislation, Abbott has no fear of a DD election.

I would think a DD in 2015 would be unlikely - Abbnott if in power would lose too many seats and the bottom line is that he can not afford his carbon plan anyway - the fixed price in place will do more for less.

More bang for the buck and unlike the abbnott plan it is not payed for from our tax dollars.

Thats delusional because it entirely based on what YOU would do. Abbott is not you.

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Reply #27 - Sep 4^th, 2012 at 10:47pm

gold_medal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 8:43pm:

Rogue Poll Upton now joins Rogue poll Buzz.

Take no notice, Upton
He'S a
pathological LIAR and HYPOCRITE
-of the highest order - best IGNORED

( ... probably why his LAST I.D. was BANNED)
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gold_medal wrote on Sep 4^th, 2012 at 5:35pm:

the real test is the next few polls to see if the greens are really this low or it was an outlier (rogue)

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