Listen to the heartless cold ##@*&$## play the Iron Lady over the stiffening corpses of dead Aussie soldiers..on ABC 24

Prevailing wrote on Aug 31^st, 2012 at 2:00pm:






Now now prev..... it'll be alright until you find a bathroom!

Maqqa wrote on Aug 31^st, 2012 at 2:30pm:


"Sh!t happens" 

Prevailing wrote on Aug 31^st, 2012 at 2:13pm:

What "course"

Why are we there again?

adelcrow wrote on Aug 31^st, 2012 at 4:03pm:

The western world trying to assert it's nuclear dominance!

It's gone it's gone!!!

 

Time for a new model!   

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 31^st, 2012 at 4:07pm:


Iran trumped the west..they got two new allies without any financial or political cost.
We handed the world's  terrorists two new countries to recruit from

Prevailing wrote on Aug 31^st, 2012 at 2:13pm:

This describes the politicans very well, then they bask in the glory of some dead soldiers.

Daily Reckoning
'During the Nuremburg War Crimes Trial, Reichsmarshal Hermann Göring mused to an interviewer "why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."

'"There is one difference," his interviewer interjected. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."

'Göring was unimpressed. "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." Gustave Gilbert Nuremberg Diary (1947)'         

We found that quote in Chris Leithner's book The Evil Princes of Martin Place. It's interesting to note that the US Congress hasn't been declaring any of the wars of late. The President has just gone and started them each time. So even a constitution can't stop a war, let alone public opinion.

And Australians have gone along with whatever their American buddies have decided to do for a very long time. Supposedly that makes us better friends. Even if it creates a rather long list of enemies.

Keep an eye out for war mongering here at home too. It's the historical and logical conclusion to the world's debt mess.

     

John Smith wrote on Aug 31^st, 2012 at 5:57pm:


I agree Howard and Abbott have most of the blood on their hands but Labor should have pulled out in 2007 when they kicked out the neo con war mongers...By not doing so they are just as culpable for the continuing deaths