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Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:10pm
 
More dead soldiers, more dead refugees.


How come no radical withdrawal from Afghanistans, like the old parties withdrew from the UN convention on Refugees?


Are Australian deaths for no reason, ok?


Bring our troops home now !
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Reply #1 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:12pm
 
Diggers confirmed dead in 'green on blue' attack

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-30/three-nato-troops-killed-in-afghanistan/42...

Defence has confirmed that three Australian soldiers have been killed by a man in an Afghan army uniform in another 'green on blue' attack at a base in the south of the country.

Acting Defence Minister Warren Snowdon confirmed the deaths this morning and said another two Australian soldiers had been wounded in the incident, which took place last night in Uruzgan Province.

"Three Australian solders have been killed as a result of a green on blue incident and two have been injured," he said.

AUDIO: Australian troops killed in Afghanistan (AM)
"This happened at around 10:30pm on Wednesday evening in Afghanistan at a base. I'm unclear as yet as to the circumstances of it."

Prime Minister Julia Gillard has cancelled a meeting with Cook Islands prime minister Henry Puna to be briefed on the incident.

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott called it a "terrible tragedy" and a "black day for our Defence Forces".

Earlier, the International Security Assistance Force said three soldiers died when "an individual wearing an Afghan National Army uniform turned his weapon against International Security Assistance Force service members" in Uruzgan on Wednesday.

What are 'green on blue' attacks?
Attacks on the coalition forces fighting in Afghanistan by their counterparts in the Afghan National Army are known as 'green-on-blue' or 'insider' attacks.

The name 'green-on-blue' comes from the colour-coding system the US military uses:

- "friendly" NATO forces are known as 'blue' personnel; and

- "host nation" Afghan personnel are identified as 'green'.

These attacks have increased markedly over the past two years, with estimates suggesting they account for 14 per cent of casualties among coalition forces in 2012.

Last year, four Australians were killed and 10 were wounded in three separate attacks by Afghan troops.
"The incident is currently under investigation," an ISAF statement said.

Around 1,500 Australian soldiers are in Uruzgan as part of the ISAF force.

The number of so-called 'green on blue attacks' - where Afghan soldiers turn their guns on their Coalition colleagues - has jumped this year.

Forty-five Coalition troops have been killed so far, already more than the 2011 total.

Last year four Australians were killed and 10 were wounded in three separate attacks by Afghan troops.

The assaults have troubled the international force, which has portrayed its partnership with Afghan troops as the key to a planned withdrawal of foreign combat troops over the next two years.

The commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, US General John Allen, said last week the causes of the surge in insider attacks are varied, and that Taliban infiltration only accounts for about a quarter of the incidents.

Why are green-on-blue attacks in Afghanistan on the rise?

VIDEO: Retired Major General Jim Molan explains why green-on-blue attacks are on the rise in Afghanistan. (ABC News)
Retired Major General Jim Molan says Western forces face a very complicated situation as they move towards withdrawal from Afghanistan, with "extraordinary" tensions emerging across the country.

But he writes that Western forces have no choice but to continue working closely with their Afghan counterparts.

The withdrawal strategy for the West depends on the Afghan army being competent enough to allow the West to at least maintain the fiction that the Afghans can stand on their own feet, at least until the withdrawal is complete and political embarrassment is avoided.

This requires that our soldiers work intimately with the Afghans 24/7. They live, train, and fight with them in very small groups. They advise Afghan commanders, bring Western-sourced intelligence to Afghan decision making, coordinate fire support from Western artillery and aircraft, and are very, very vulnerable.
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Reply #2 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:25pm
 
I become very angry at people who never served in the military making these comments.

Unless you serve shut your mouth on this.
Soldiers have died and it disrespectful!!!!!
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Reply #3 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:30pm
 
As usual the evil self serving ideological Greens try to make political capital out of others grief & suffering..

Yet no one calls more loudly for UN interventionist action in sovereign countries than them...Laugh away greens we are on to you... Sad Sad
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Reply #4 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:32pm
 
Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:25pm:
I become very angry at people who never served in the military making these comments.

Unless you serve shut your mouth on this.
Soldiers have died and it disrespectful!!!!!



Av, greens is just another scumbag lefty who loves to use the deaths of Aussie diggers to troll for outrage and anger.

This board is full of these cowards and aren't worth the steam off our p1ss.


Fvcken pieces of sh1t!  Angry


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Reply #5 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:35pm
 
How many more must die for the self interest and ideological political delusions of the meritocracy?  Why are we in Afghanistan again?  Sad Sad
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Reply #6 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:38pm
 
A disgusting thread that should be removed.
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Reply #7 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:39pm
 
lisa.greek wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:38pm:
A disgusting thread that should be removed. 


Why?

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Reply #8 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:47pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:39pm:
lisa.greek wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:38pm:
A disgusting thread that should be removed. 


Why?

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Because as a serviceman myself, I feel it is wrong to politice the deaths of other service people.    And why the comparison between servicemen and refugees?    All this poster is doing is using the deaths of people to push a political agenda.
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Reply #9 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 1:07pm
 
You're a maggot Greens_Win.
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Reply #10 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 1:13pm
 
Afghanistan is being handed back to the Taliban. Diggers are dying for no reason besides Lab Lib's pigheadedness because they don't want to admit defeat.

Australians lives are so cheap, compared to boat refugees. We are happy to go back on our word and spend billions to protect refugees from drowning, yet neglect our soldiers in so many ways.


It's about time this war was debated in parliament, like boat refugees were.

Then a conscious vote taken
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Reply #11 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 1:13pm
 
lisa.greek wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:47pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:39pm:
lisa.greek wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:38pm:
A disgusting thread that should be removed. 


Why?

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Because as a serviceman myself, I feel it is wrong to politice the deaths of other service people.    And why the comparison between servicemen and refugees?    All this poster is doing is using the deaths of people to push a political agenda.   

The deaths are political tho?
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Reply #12 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 1:19pm
 
lisa.greek wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:47pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:39pm:
lisa.greek wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:38pm:
A disgusting thread that should be removed. 


Why?

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Because as a serviceman myself, I feel it is wrong to politice the deaths of other service people.    And why the comparison between servicemen and refugees?    All this poster is doing is using the deaths of people to push a political agenda.   


Of course its a completely different thing. Boat ppl die because of their own stupid fault. They choose to be homeless and desperate. Especially the afghan refugees - they choose to be muslim so its their own fault if they die. The soldiers are righteous and fighting for their country. Protecting australians from having their sensibilities hurt by brown ppl across the world. As we all know the deaths of boat ppl dont matter - they can be politicised all you like. Servicemen though - they kill ppl for the politicians benefit - cant politicise them.

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Reply #13 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 1:25pm
 
It does not matter that these people served in a different army to me.

I find as a person who has been in the army for 3 years - that anyone who writes things like this is offensive.

It is made even worse when you know that these people have no idea what it is like to have been in the military and in armed conflict.

It is the most frightening 3 years of my life and you value every comrade of yours who relies on you 100% too.

To see idiots making these points - knowing that they have never experienced any of this - makes me very angry.

I have respect for all of those in the military both my allies and my enemy.
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Reply #14 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 1:32pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 1:19pm:
lisa.greek wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:47pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:39pm:
lisa.greek wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 12:38pm:
A disgusting thread that should be removed. 


Why?

SOB



Because as a serviceman myself, I feel it is wrong to politice the deaths of other service people.    And why the comparison between servicemen and refugees?    All this poster is doing is using the deaths of people to push a political agenda.   


Servicemen though - they kill ppl for the politicians benefit - cant politicise them.

SOB



They're over there trying to install some liberal institutions and bring them into the 21st century.

I thought you trendies wanted the spread of human rights, not their disbandment?
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