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BigOl64 wrote on Aug 30 th, 2012 at 5:23pm: adelcrow wrote on Aug 30 th, 2012 at 5:17pm: BigOl64 wrote on Aug 30 th, 2012 at 5:12pm: ... wrote on Aug 30 th, 2012 at 5:01pm: BigOl64 wrote on Aug 30 th, 2012 at 4:54pm: ... wrote on Aug 30 th, 2012 at 4:49pm: I'm gonna have to agree with SOB on this one, even though I believe his intent was tinged with malice.
"Hero" is a word used far too freely these days, so as to strip it of all meaning.
They may have performed heroic deeds, we don't know, but simply being in the army does not make one a hero by default. The same must be said to the "but what about the real heroes" crew - No, doctors, teachers or sick children aren't heroes either, unless they, as an individual, perform deeds or display qualities worthy of the term. We haven't heard (or at least I haven't) the circumstances of his death - merely dying doesn't make you a hero, it's what you do in life that make you one.
Until such time as evidence comes to light of their heroism, These guys will be just another workplace death to me, no more or less heroic than someone who falls over the edge of their fishing boat and drowns, or gets caught in machinery at the factory they work in. Spoken like a true civilian, the ability to pass judgement on those who serve is easy from the safety of your couch. When a civilian has to do their job all while being shot at by someone bent on killing you, then you can have an opinion of what it means to be a hero, until then it's best to be quiet. yeah I knew you'd get all up in arms about that. Would it further raise your hackles if I pointed out that I did excatly the opposite of 'pass judgment' while you did judge them heroes, by virtue of choosing to enlist of the army? I bet it will. Touchy dam subject, but it needed to be said. I'd expect there to be a higher instance of actual heroes in the armed forces, but that doesn't mean they're all heroes. I actually passed judgement on you. They didn't just join the friggen army, they died while under fire and as a fully fledged civilian with absolutely no understanding of what that is like, your opinion on the matter is irrelevant.. FFS, think just a little bit before posting again. What rubbish..wrap it anyway you want but all your doing is defending our pollies for using any excuse to kill our young people.. And you would know this because of your vast experience in the ADF? If this was about the pollies the OP would have a reference to pollies and not dead soldiers this is nothing more than an opportunity for you and your deadsh1t mates to troll the dead. Show some respect or bugger off Like I said..wrap it anyway you want but all your doing is defending our pollies and disrespecting those dying for their mistakes
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