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Union official suing Abbott did what Abbott said
Aug 29th, 2012 at 9:36pm
 
A SENIOR union official who is suing Opposition leader Tony Abbott for allegedly implying he is a union thug deliberately drove his car at a building site manager following a violent protest in Melbourne this morning, a court has heard.


How funny is that.

CFMEU assistant secretary John Setka also allegedly hurled abuse at Grocon employees during a protest in Melbourne where construction workers trampled on police officers.

Grocon has asked the Victorian Supreme Court to extend injunction orders against the Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union after hearing evidence about the violent clash outside Grocon's Myer Emporium building site on Lonsdale St this morning.

The company's Victorian operations manager Brian McAdam told judge Anthony Cavonough he had recognised Mr Setka at the CBD protest and saw him directly confront a group of about 90 Grocon employees who were trying to enter their worksite.

"Mr Setka has then verbally abused our people," Mr McAdam told the court.

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"It's not language I like to use, but he yelled out 'f..king dog."'

Mr McAdam said Mr Setka had also called the workers "scabs", to which some of them replied "We just want to work".

A police officer then advised the Grocon employees to go back inside their office building.

The protest has now broken up, but Mr McAdam said he had heard one of the union organisers on a loudspeaker saying "Back here tomorrow boys for more fun."

Mr McAdam said Mr Setka had arrived at one of Grocon's Footscray developments around 9.30 and told a security guard he wanted to speak to management.

Grocon's executive project manager Frank Bortoletto went outside and told Mr Setka he was in contravention of court orders which were posted on the building site fences.

"He then said that we don't care about such things and then began to verbally abuse Mr Bortoletto," Mr McAdam told the court.

"'Dog' and 'rat', and the usual sort of stuff."

Mr McAdam said Mr Bortoletto turned to leave before Mr Setka accelerated the vehicle, striking the project manager on the leg.

Mr Setka is suing Tony Abbott for defamation over comments the Opposition leader made at a Master Builders Association conference earlier this year.

Mr Setka claims he has been "gravely injured" by his public portrayal as a construction site thug.

A magistrate threw out assault and obstruction charges against Mr Setka and a former union official two days after Mr Abbott's speech to the Master Builders.

The Myer Emporium protest briefly escalated at around 7.00am when the crowd pushed back against mounted police, with reports of some police horses being punched.

Victoria Police commander Rick Nugent said one group of officers on foot fell on to the ground as the workers surged forward.

"They were under the feet of a number of union people but they don't appear to be injured," he said.

"Capsicum spray was used, I understand, by our members on the front line, and it was used at the time the members were being trampled by union members and in fear of their safety.

"I understand that the use of the capsicum spray enabled members to get back onto their feet and get back with their members."

Lonsdale Street has now reopened to traffic and the workers have dispersed.

Commander Nugent said no workers had been arrested at this morning's protest, but arrests could follow if instances of violence were seen on video footage.

"It wasn't a violent confrontation per se which we're pleased about," he said.

"I haven't reviewed all of the footage but at this stage we're comfortable that they behaved reasonably appropriately.

"If they have punched horses, then that's not appropriate."

Justice Cavanough has agreed to extend the existing injunction against the CFMEU. The union did not attend the hearing.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/industrial-relations/unionist-d...
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Re: Union official suing Abbott did what Abbott said
Reply #1 - Aug 29th, 2012 at 9:43pm
 
Classy.

I heard Setka being interviewed by John Faine on the ABC today.

I was quite shocked, Faine went feral and called him out for being a thug, implied he was telling lies about Grocon's behaviour.

Not the usual pinko crap you get from Faine.

Faine also queried Setko about his friendship with Mick Gatto.
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Reply #2 - Aug 29th, 2012 at 9:44pm
 
Wow, those Union thugs sure know how to utilise their (limited) vocabulary! Scab, dog, rat. I wonder if they know any five-letter words?
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Reply #3 - Aug 29th, 2012 at 9:49pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 9:44pm:
Wow, those Union thugs sure know how to utilise their (limited) vocabulary! Scab, dog, rat. I wonder if they know any five-letter words?

These idiots look like they are back in the early 1900's and thugs like nothing you want to see in this day and age.

I wonder if we will get a fight between the CFMEU and Police union for them hurting each others members. I'd pay to go see that.

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Reply #4 - Aug 29th, 2012 at 9:52pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 9:36pm:
[b][size=14]A SENIOR union official who is[highlight] suing Opposition leader Tony Abbott for allegedly implying he is a union thug

My advice to the Nobility is you better mind yourself because there is an avalanche of law suits heading your way for constitutional & economic crimes... Smiley Smiley
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Reply #5 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:25am
 
So what? Doesnt mean abbott can get away with slander.

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Reply #6 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:56am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:25am:
So what? Doesnt mean abbott can get away with slander.

SOB



Your ignorant reply always make my day.   Grin  Grin  Grin

The defence for slander is if it is the truth.

Unless you accept that trying to run down another human being is not thuggish behaviour then your post is valid.

But as per usual it is wrong.  Grin


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Reply #7 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 7:11am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:56am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:25am:
So what? Doesnt mean abbott can get away with slander.

SOB



Your ignorant reply always make my day.   Grin  Grin  Grin

The defence for slander is if it is the truth.

Unless you accept that trying to run down another human being is not thuggish behaviour then your post is valid.

But as per usual it is wrong.  Grin





When he said it it hadnt happened. He was slandering when he said it. Looks like you are the "ignorant" one.

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Reply #8 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 7:33am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 7:11am:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:56am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:25am:
So what? Doesnt mean abbott can get away with slander.

SOB



Your ignorant reply always make my day.   Grin  Grin  Grin

The defence for slander is if it is the truth.

Unless you accept that trying to run down another human being is not thuggish behaviour then your post is valid.

But as per usual it is wrong.  Grin





When he said it it hadnt happened. He was slandering when he said it. Looks like you are the "ignorant" one.

SOB

So,SOB, are you saying that this thug hadnt indulged in thuggish behaviour before?
Perhaps he did so this time to validate Abbott; politics makes strange bedfellows indeed...
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Reply #9 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 7:46am
 
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A magistrate threw out assault and obstruction charges against Mr Setka and a former union official two days after Mr Abbott's speech to the Master Builders.


Abbott is a flake.....I notice not a single member of the Coalition are taking up this bullshit about Julia Gillard.....That is left to the nut jobs on the Internet who are safe to throw mud with impunity.....You are all cowards like the Coalition!!!

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Reply #10 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 7:50am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 7:46am:
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A magistrate threw out assault and obstruction charges against Mr Setka and a former union official two days after Mr Abbott's speech to the Master Builders.


Abbott is a flake.....I notice not a single member of the Coalition are taking up this bullshit about Julia Gillard.....That is left to the nut jobs on the Internet who are safe to throw mud with impunity.....You are all cowards like the Coalition!!!

Angry Angry Angry

The allegation on this and gillard have come from labor members, ex-police, lawyers. It is the nutjobs that are trying to cover for gillard because they love labor corruption. It is the internet that is helping to keep alive an issue of integrity of our PM.

There is no place for Australia to have a PM with such poor judgment if that is at worst that gillard is guilty of.
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Reply #11 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 8:38am
 
The Heartless Felon wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 7:33am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 7:11am:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:56am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:25am:
So what? Doesnt mean abbott can get away with slander.

SOB



Your ignorant reply always make my day.   Grin  Grin  Grin

The defence for slander is if it is the truth.

Unless you accept that trying to run down another human being is not thuggish behaviour then your post is valid.

But as per usual it is wrong.  Grin





When he said it it hadnt happened. He was slandering when he said it. Looks like you are the "ignorant" one.

SOB

So,SOB, are you saying that this thug hadnt indulged in thuggish behaviour before?
Perhaps he did so this time to validate Abbott; politics makes strange bedfellows indeed...


There wasnt any proof and i dont know if he engaged in it before - neither did you - neither did abbott. He was slandering the guy.

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Reply #12 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 8:49am
 
Its not slander if they are SOB.

He was arrested, charged and before the courts for assult and obstruction.

At the time Abbott made his speech he had a reasonable belief that they guy was in fact a thug.

Its not slander if its true, and the actions of this guy now further prove the point.

Abbott has no case to answer, but nice try.
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Not a thug hey SOB,

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Early in his reign at Grocon, in 2002, Daniel tried to push through a Howard government era non-union agreement that was overwhelmingly rejected by workers. The following year Setka was convicted and fined $500 for threatening to ''fix up'' a Grocon employee, one of the only convictions that stemmed from the Cole royal commission into the building industry."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/its-personal-the-union-hothead-and-grollo-heir-20120828-24yxb.html#ixzz24yjwQz6Q

If thats not a thug, I dont know what is.

and again

"Yesterday, he was accused in court of driving a car at a Grocon manager in Footscray."

More thuggish language when addressing people

When a group of construction workers held a rally outside the Melbourne headquarters of the building industry watchdog on a winter's day in 2010, they were addressed by a union official, John Setka, who promised a war of attrition. His language was lurid and vengeful:

''We know who's winning this battle. We're winning this battle, not them rats … There's no other way of putting it, they are f------s … They are poo …

''We're proud, we're construction workers … you're not working in some warm office like them f------s up there. And they've got the balls to try and prosecute us … Those rats, dogs, whatever they are, just remember one thing, when this is all over, and they don't exist any more, they've got to work elsewhere and we'll remember them because we know every f---ing one of them. We will never forget them.''


Remember Setka's words when talking about the Australian Building and Construction Commission: ''When they don't exist any more … we'll remember them because we know every f---ing one of them. We will never forget them.''

And guess who is Setco's lawyers in his defamation case.........
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Reply #14 - Aug 30th, 2012 at 9:06am
 
Not a thug hey SOB

A leaked Victoria Police list of Mr Setka’s criminal record up to 1991 shows he was convicted five times of assaulting police. There were multiple counts of assault by kicking and resisting arrest.


In a separate case in 2010, Mr Setka was fined $6000 for ­threatening two Bovis Lend Lease managers.

And look who his best mate is.
Last night Mr Setka’s ally, underworld figure Mick Gatto, appeared to threaten the company with retaliation in the future if chief executive, Daniel Grollo didn’t compromise.

“The union have got long memories, and unless he plans on not building any more, I think there is going to be a problem there,” Mr Gatto told Channel 7 news. Grocon’s Myer construction site in Melbourne is still blockaded by union supporters despite a court ordering free access to the site.

Mr Setka received strong support from Mr Gatto, who told ABC Radio he been a mate of Mr Setka’s since he become involved with the building industry 20 years ago.

“He has been primed up for the top position and I think he is the ideal man for the job, someone like him should be running the country, to be honest,” Mr Gatto said.



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