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Re: another 150 deaths on Labor & Greens head
Reply #45 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:39pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:35pm:

Gist wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:31pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:22pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

Yep..the Greens and Labor started the conflicts that made these people flee for their lives Grin

No one died at sea or in detention centres during the entire duration of the Pacific Solution. Around 1,000 have died at sea since Rudd dismantled that policy. Given these facts, you're comments show just how ignorant you are.

And the fact that they are dying now despite reimplementation of your policies shows just how ignorant you are.

But they haven't reimplemented the entire policy. Not even half of it. Just one small part - offshore processing. The current situation is really no different than prior to onshore processing, except that the detention centres will not be in Australian territory. Without TPV's and the other components that made the Pacific Solution so successful, Gillard is setting herself up for more failures.

Well none of it is Labor policy. And it sure as hell ain't Greens policy! We got YOUR policy. And it doesn't work, just as predicted.

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Re: another 150 deaths on Labor & Greens head
Reply #46 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:42pm

Gist wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:39pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:35pm:

Gist wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:31pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:22pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

Yep..the Greens and Labor started the conflicts that made these people flee for their lives Grin

No one died at sea or in detention centres during the entire duration of the Pacific Solution. Around 1,000 have died at sea since Rudd dismantled that policy. Given these facts, you're comments show just how ignorant you are.

And the fact that they are dying now despite reimplementation of your policies shows just how ignorant you are.

But they haven't reimplemented the entire policy. Not even half of it. Just one small part - offshore processing. The current situation is really no different than prior to onshore processing, except that the detention centres will not be in Australian territory. Without TPV's and the other components that made the Pacific Solution so successful, Gillard is setting herself up for more failures.

Well none of it is Labor policy. And it sure as hell ain't Greens policy! We got YOUR policy. And it doesn't work, just as predicted.

Ignorance, thy name is Gist!

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: another 150 deaths on Labor & Greens head Reply #47 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:46pm Boat people Zzzzzzzzzzz Who cares? They are not your people so not your problem. More important problems than boats of Kushi
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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: another 150 deaths on Labor & Greens head Reply #48 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:48pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:46pm: Boat people Zzzzzzzzzzz Who cares? They are not your people so not your problem. More important problems than boats of Kushi Seems *you* care. After all, you bothered to read the thread and post something.
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Re: another 150 deaths on Labor & Greens head
Reply #49 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:51pm

Gist wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:39pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:35pm:

Gist wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:31pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:22pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

Yep..the Greens and Labor started the conflicts that made these people flee for their lives Grin

No one died at sea or in detention centres during the entire duration of the Pacific Solution. Around 1,000 have died at sea since Rudd dismantled that policy. Given these facts, you're comments show just how ignorant you are.

And the fact that they are dying now despite reimplementation of your policies shows just how ignorant you are.

But they haven't reimplemented the entire policy. Not even half of it. Just one small part - offshore processing. The current situation is really no different than prior to onshore processing, except that the detention centres will not be in Australian territory. Without TPV's and the other components that made the Pacific Solution so successful, Gillard is setting herself up for more failures.

Well none of it is Labor policy. And it sure as hell ain't Greens policy! We got YOUR policy. And it doesn't work, just as predicted.

Labor introduced the Bill, its their policy.

Following your logic, the dental plan isn't Labor policy, it's Abbott's dental plan. Coalition introduced dental care, Labor have just changed it a bit.

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Re: another 150 deaths on Labor & Greens head
Reply #50 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:53pm

Gist wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:48pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:46pm:

Boat people

Zzzzzzzzzzz

Who cares? They are not your people so not your problem.

More important problems than boats of Kushi

Seems you care. After all, you bothered to read the thread and post something.

Oh yes I cry so much about this....

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Re: another 150 deaths on Labor & Greens head
Reply #51 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:57pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 6:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 6:05pm:

Labors policy is Malaysia .... Abbotts is Nauru ... I want Forrest Gump to explain to me why this is on Gillards head and not Abbott? It seems to me everyone got what they wanted except for Gillard ..... not to worry Gumpy, I'll accept a copy / paste as a reply ... It's all anyones likely to get from you anyway .....

Labor is in power therefore we have labor/green policy.

There were only 4 boat people in detention before labor dismantled the pacific solution, this was not a problem until passion fingered labor made it into a multi billion dollar debacle.

what a pathetic excuse ... labors policy is the Malaysia solution, and has been for a while. The fact that its a hung parliament means that the government of the day does not get to implememnt it's policies .... try labors solution and then blame labor if it fails, otherwise accept that they adopted Abbotts solution and it doesn't work ..

Tell me, how do you not get sand up your nostrils with your head permanently buried in the sand ... ????

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: another 150 deaths on Labor & Greens head Reply #52 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:57pm Simple question. : why allow in these people? Why make them your problem? You dont owe them anything.
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Re: another 150 deaths on Labor & Greens head
Reply #53 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:58pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:53pm:

Gist wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:48pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:46pm:

Boat people

Zzzzzzzzzzz

Who cares? They are not your people so not your problem.

More important problems than boats of Kushi

Seems you care. After all, you bothered to read the thread and post something.

Oh yes I cry so much about this....

I'm guessing that you cry about as much as I cry when Hezbollah sends a few bombs in your direction

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: another 150 deaths on Labor & Greens head Reply #54 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:59pm Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:57pm: Simple question. : why allow in these people? Why make them your problem? You dont owe them anything. why did countries make the Jews their problem? why did some countries provide safe havens for them? ungrateful bastards that they are ....
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Re: another 150 deaths on Labor & Greens head
Reply #55 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 10:00pm

Shane B wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:51pm:

Gist wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:39pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:35pm:

Gist wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:31pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 9:22pm:

adelcrow wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 4:43pm:

Yep..the Greens and Labor started the conflicts that made these people flee for their lives Grin

No one died at sea or in detention centres during the entire duration of the Pacific Solution. Around 1,000 have died at sea since Rudd dismantled that policy. Given these facts, you're comments show just how ignorant you are.

And the fact that they are dying now despite reimplementation of your policies shows just how ignorant you are.

But they haven't reimplemented the entire policy. Not even half of it. Just one small part - offshore processing. The current situation is really no different than prior to onshore processing, except that the detention centres will not be in Australian territory. Without TPV's and the other components that made the Pacific Solution so successful, Gillard is setting herself up for more failures.

Well none of it is Labor policy. And it sure as hell ain't Greens policy! We got YOUR policy. And it doesn't work, just as predicted.

Labor introduced the Bill, its their policy.

Following your logic, the dental plan isn't Labor policy, it's Abbott's dental plan. Coalition introduced dental care, Labor have just changed it a bit.

Labor haven't got anything to show for "their" offshore processing policy. Howard set up offshore processing from scratch (i.e. there were no existing facilities) and had people in the detention centre on Nauru inside 19 days. Labor won't have anyone in them until toward the end of September - a month and a half after the bill passed through parliament. I'd hate to see how this government would handle a large scale disaster, such as Hurricane Katrina's devastation of New Orleans a number of years ago. If past experience is anything to go by, Labor's response may well be more disastrous than the hurricane itself!

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: another 150 deaths on Labor & Greens head Reply #56 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 10:00pm Stick to the topic. Why are you making these people your problem?
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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14248 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: another 150 deaths on Labor & Greens head Reply #57 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 10:05pm Does anyone remember the name of the "solution" started by Malcolm Fraser - and continued by Bob Hawke ? Not ONE boat, in NINE YEARS ! I MEAN, that's a WAY better run than any OTHER "solution" I can recall We SHOULD go BACK to it
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Re: another 150 deaths on Labor & Greens head
Reply #58 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 10:07pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 10:00pm:

Stick to the topic.

Why are you making these people your problem?

it is the topic ... you just don't like the answer ... you make these people your problem for the same reasons people made the Jews their problems during WWII ..... or is it different because they were Jews?

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Avram Horowitz Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3153 Australia Gender:	Re: another 150 deaths on Labor & Greens head Reply #59 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 10:08pm Why don't you just refuse to process any asylum seekers if they come by boat? Jail them and refuse them entry. Ignore the UN. Your problem is you are frightened of the UN. Just ignore it. Then see the boats stop. Be hard not soft.
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