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Re: Does my bum look big in prison blues
Reply #15 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 5:42pm

Well does my bum look big in these prison rags

The AWU Scandal - WA Associations Incorporation Act - The sham "Australian Workers' Union Workplace Reform Association"

The now notorious Association “Australian Workers’ Union – Workplace Reform Association” was incorporated under Western Australian law.

The Western Australian parliament envisaged that it would be useful for groups of people to come together, to associate and to inform the government of their association so that they could incorporate, or become a single body corporate. Amongst other things that would let them open bank accounts.

The parliament in the West saw that as a community good for sports, arts, cultural groups and the like.

There are less burdensome reporting requirements on associations than there are for companies, trusts or other forms of corporate entities (or bodies).

What we know for sure is that Bruce Wilson and Ralph Blewitt wanted an Association incorporated under the legislation that I’ve attached to this blog.

The law is Western Australian law. It’s not industrial relations law, it’s a local state law designed for small community groups.

Here is the law.
http://michaelsmithnews.typepad.com/files/___wa-associations-incorporation-act-f...
Download ___WA Associations Incorporation Act (from WA Police FOI)

You will note several significant points.

1 – An association must have 5 members to incorporate under this law. Bruce and Ralph only had
themselves. There were no other members.

2 An association cannot incorporate under this law if it proposes to trade for pecuniary profit. Bruce and Ralph started issuing invoices soon after their association was incorporated.

3

An association cannot incorporate under this law if it is a trade union

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An association cannot incorporate under this law if its name is misleading as to its purpose

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Note J Gillard’s statement that it was a re-election slush fund. Compare and contrast with the name.

5 An association cannot incorporate under this law if it sounds like another corporate body.
That is at the heart of this association. As you’ll see when I get to the invoices Bruce and Ralph sent out, the scam wouldn’t have worked if it didn’t sound like it was part of the AWU.

So Bruce Wilson’s choice of lawyer is significant. He started going out with Julia Gillard in
late 1991 (source, J Gillard departure interview with Slater and Gordon).

Rather than go to a suburban solicitor in Perth who would be conversant with the local law, Bruce flew with Ralph to Melbourne to meet with Ms Gillard. Ms Gillard acknowledges having “given legal advice” in the establishment of this association (source, transcript of interview 23 August, 2012).

Here is what the PM said last week:

“I will be far more precise than that. I was a solicitor at Slater & Gordon. I assisted with the provision of advice regarding the setting up of an association, the workplace reform association that you refer to. My understanding is that the purpose of the association was to support the re-election of a team of union officials and their pursuit of the policies that they would stand for re-election on. It was my understanding that the association would engage in fundraising activities, including, for example, there being regular payroll deductions from union officials who would be putting their money together to support their re-election campaign and that they may well have other fundraising activities like hosting dinners where it would be transparent to people that the money was going to support their re-election campaign. My role in relation to this was I provided advice as a solicitor. I am not the signatory to the documents that incorporated this association. I was not an office bearer of the association. I had no involvement in the working of the association. I provided advice in relation to its establishment and that was it.”

It was pretty crap advice. But then Bruce got it for free so it probably reinforces the maxim that you get what you pay for.

The truth is that Julia Gillard’s role went beyond advice. There are 9 pages of rules entitled Objects of the Association” that were appended to the application.

Importantly, the name “Australian Workers’ Union – Workplace Reform Association” is in Julia Gillard’s handwriting on the 2 forms that form part of the application. Thus we can link Ms Gillard to specific advice about the name of the association – that it included the words “Australian Workers’ Union”. That she did that without any explanatory note, minute or other permission from the owner of that name, the AWU is beyond explanation.

After this blog I will explain how Ms Gillard’s boyfriend used the sham association to pass itself off as being a subsidiary entity of the AWU and how he used that passing-off to rip-off money.

This is a copy of the Application that contains Ms Gillard's writing on the line that has the name of the Association. http://michaelsmithnews.typepad.com/files/_92_04_22---application-for-incorporat...

http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2012/08/the-wa-associations-incorporation-act.ht...

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Re: Does my bum look big in prison blues
Reply #16 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 5:58pm

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 26^th, 2012 at 9:59pm:

Prima facie case to charge Julia Gillard with concealing a serious indictable offence in the AWU Scandal

There is enough evidence to charge Julia Gillard for concealing a serious indictable offence which carries a jail term of 2 years. Julia Gillard has dared anyone to make allegations against her, I have before and will again, in this post I make out the prima facie case against Julia Gillard.
There are two key elements

1. Does Julia Gillard know about the fraud. and

2. Did she conceal the fraud.

You forgot the 3rd element - the tiny detail that no charges were ever laid for fraud.

When there is actually an offence - then you may have a point. Until then - you don't.

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Re: Does my bum look big in prison blues
Reply #18 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:02pm

Upton Sinclair wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 9:54pm:

Wow. The depths of the internet that progressiveslol must rawl. A bottom feeder if ever I've come across one.

Ohhhh. Now thats not far. I more look forward to you quoting a lying PM about perceived BS sexism and nutjobs in reference to judges, lawyers, journalists, ex-police, labor members and in this case, the police themselves who are investigating thomson.

Oh well, I am still pleased to be in the same sphere as the above.

Try a little harder next time labor corruption lover.

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Re: Does my bum look big in prison blues
Reply #19 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:32pm

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:02pm:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 9:54pm:

Wow. The depths of the internet that progressiveslol must rawl. A bottom feeder if ever I've come across one.

Ohhhh. Now thats not far. I more look forward to you quoting a lying PM about perceived BS sexism and nutjobs in reference to judges, lawyers, journalists, ex-police, labor members and in this case, the police themselves who are investigating thomson.

Oh well, I am still pleased to be in the same sphere as the above.

Try a little harder next time labor corruption lover.

I think you'll find the reference to "sexism and nutjobs" was in relation to Pickering. Have a look at his website and you will understand.

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Re: Does my bum look big in prison blues
Reply #20 - Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:43pm

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:32pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:02pm:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 9:54pm:

Wow. The depths of the internet that progressiveslol must rawl. A bottom feeder if ever I've come across one.

Ohhhh. Now thats not far. I more look forward to you quoting a lying PM about perceived BS sexism and nutjobs in reference to judges, lawyers, journalists, ex-police, labor members and in this case, the police themselves who are investigating thomson.

Oh well, I am still pleased to be in the same sphere as the above.

Try a little harder next time labor corruption lover.

I think you'll find the reference to "sexism and nutjobs" was in relation to Pickering. Have a look at his website and you will understand.

That is not how gillard referenced it. She did have issues with pickering, but did not reference that statement directly to him.

As for pickering being sexist, I dont see how him writing an expose about a young and naive pregnant 35 year old partner in a law firm, is sexist. He is pushing her buttons and she does not like it.

Maybe you could point out what it is in particular for examples sake, that pickering has written that was sexist. Then I can evaluate why you may say what you said.

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Reply #21 - Aug 28^th, 2012 at 4:12am

Professor Cheryl Kernot, former leader of the Democrats and Labor MP:

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“Julia Gillard’s press conference was courageous and competent; she did not seek the cover of parliamentary privilege but fronted a room containing a number of (predominantly male) journalists who are running a vicious agenda aimed at her “character”; self-important little people convincing themselves they are acting in the “public interest”. And she answered their questions for well over an hour.

“What’s a legitimate public interest story? Rumours relating to an error of judgement in not ‘opening’ a file on pro bono work for a union 17 years ago; or falling out with some partner colleagues; or falling in love with someone who deceived you?

“I don’t think so.

“Not when the questions have been answered and refuted on several occasions over many years and when the timing and the motives for revisiting them are nakedly political and overlaid with sexism.

“Can we go back and re-examine all the details of Tony Abbott’s pre-marital sex life? Given his strict Catholic values, is that not equally as illuminating about his “character” even 30 years on?

“What’s particularly alarming, I think, is that having said she wouldn’t dignify the comments being made even a PM was eventually hounded by the press gallery herd to respond.

“An unelected, largely unaccountable, often self-righteous bunch of people – many of whose own lives of 20 years ago wouldn’t withstand detailed scrutiny – have more power in setting the agenda of what matters to our nation than those who are elected.

“This IS a serious problem for Australian democracy … and supplements, in the most damaging way the cowardly, abusive, anonymity infecting our social media. Everyone – individuals and societies – needs boundaries.

“It’s time to set some and not be blackmailed by the usual default response of ‘threats to freedom of speech’.”

The irony, progs, is that the title of this thread is a perfect example of what Gillard is talking about.

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Re: Does my bum look big in prison blues
Reply #22 - Aug 28^th, 2012 at 6:24am

MOTR wrote on Aug 28^th, 2012 at 4:12am:

Professor Cheryl Kernot, former leader of the Democrats and Labor MP:

Quote:

“Julia Gillard’s press conference was courageous and competent; she did not seek the cover of parliamentary privilege but fronted a room containing a number of (predominantly male) journalists who are running a vicious agenda aimed at her “character”; self-important little people convincing themselves they are acting in the “public interest”. And she answered their questions for well over an hour.

“What’s a legitimate public interest story? Rumours relating to an error of judgement in not ‘opening’ a file on pro bono work for a union 17 years ago; or falling out with some partner colleagues; or falling in love with someone who deceived you?

“I don’t think so.

“Not when the questions have been answered and refuted on several occasions over many years and when the timing and the motives for revisiting them are nakedly political and overlaid with sexism.

“Can we go back and re-examine all the details of Tony Abbott’s pre-marital sex life? Given his strict Catholic values, is that not equally as illuminating about his “character” even 30 years on?

“What’s particularly alarming, I think, is that having said she wouldn’t dignify the comments being made even a PM was eventually hounded by the press gallery herd to respond.

“An unelected, largely unaccountable, often self-righteous bunch of people – many of whose own lives of 20 years ago wouldn’t withstand detailed scrutiny – have more power in setting the agenda of what matters to our nation than those who are elected.

“This IS a serious problem for Australian democracy … and supplements, in the most damaging way the cowardly, abusive, anonymity infecting our social media. Everyone – individuals and societies – needs boundaries.

“It’s time to set some and not be blackmailed by the usual default response of ‘threats to freedom of speech’.”

The irony, progs, is that the title of this thread is a perfect example of what Gillard is talking about.

I did nothing wrong. I was a young and naive ozpolitic member at the time.

A perfectly legitimate subject heading considering an accusation has been made.

If you are refering to the bum thing, I dont care if you or gillard dont like satire.

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Re: Does my bum look big in prison blues
Reply #23 - Aug 28^th, 2012 at 6:55am

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:43pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:32pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:02pm:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 9:54pm:

Wow. The depths of the internet that progressiveslol must rawl. A bottom feeder if ever I've come across one.

Ohhhh. Now thats not far. I more look forward to you quoting a lying PM about perceived BS sexism and nutjobs in reference to judges, lawyers, journalists, ex-police, labor members and in this case, the police themselves who are investigating thomson.

Oh well, I am still pleased to be in the same sphere as the above.

Try a little harder next time labor corruption lover.

I think you'll find the reference to "sexism and nutjobs" was in relation to Pickering. Have a look at his website and you will understand.

That is not how gillard referenced it. She did have issues with pickering, but did not reference that statement directly to him.

As for pickering being sexist, I dont see how him writing an expose about a young and naive pregnant 35 year old partner in a law firm, is sexist. He is pushing her buttons and she does not like it.

Maybe you could point out what it is in particular for examples sake, that pickering has written that was sexist. Then I can evaluate why you may say what you said.

My guess is it is the plethora of cartoons featuring the PM sporting a strap-on dildo.
Evaluate that for us.

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Re: Does my bum look big in prison blues
Reply #24 - Aug 28^th, 2012 at 7:19am

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 28^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:43pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:32pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:02pm:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 9:54pm:

Wow. The depths of the internet that progressiveslol must rawl. A bottom feeder if ever I've come across one.

Ohhhh. Now thats not far. I more look forward to you quoting a lying PM about perceived BS sexism and nutjobs in reference to judges, lawyers, journalists, ex-police, labor members and in this case, the police themselves who are investigating thomson.

Oh well, I am still pleased to be in the same sphere as the above.

Try a little harder next time labor corruption lover.

I think you'll find the reference to "sexism and nutjobs" was in relation to Pickering. Have a look at his website and you will understand.

That is not how gillard referenced it. She did have issues with pickering, but did not reference that statement directly to him.

As for pickering being sexist, I dont see how him writing an expose about a young and naive pregnant 35 year old partner in a law firm, is sexist. He is pushing her buttons and she does not like it.

Maybe you could point out what it is in particular for examples sake, that pickering has written that was sexist. Then I can evaluate why you may say what you said.

My guess is it is the plethora of cartoons featuring the PM sporting a strap-on dildo.
Evaluate that for us.

That is what pickering does. Have you seen his other cartoons? I take it is the dildo you find offensive. Well I am sure it is meant to be because he may believe gillard to be in a sham marriage. That does not make it sexist.

Pickering has been said to have less nudes of gillard than other ex-PM's.

Thought I had better take the nudy picture off, just in case it is against the code.

I link this site instead. I like the following in the article.
Quote:

As for the ‘nutjob’ barb, PM. That ‘nutjob’ got you standing at a podium for almost an hour, all from his keyboard, inciting legitimate questions while you fielded answers about your very questionable past. If he’s a nutjob, then he should have been ignored and discredited long ago. But you gave him all the time in the world today, the longest press conference from a PM in decades according to stunned political observers. Pretty crafty ol’ ‘nutjob’.

http://www.cagle.com/tag/larry-pickering/

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Re: Does my bum look big in prison blues
Reply #26 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 6:08pm

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 28^th, 2012 at 7:19am:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 28^th, 2012 at 6:55am:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:43pm:

rabbitoh07 wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:32pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 10:02pm:

Upton Sinclair wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 9:54pm:

Wow. The depths of the internet that progressiveslol must rawl. A bottom feeder if ever I've come across one.

Ohhhh. Now thats not far. I more look forward to you quoting a lying PM about perceived BS sexism and nutjobs in reference to judges, lawyers, journalists, ex-police, labor members and in this case, the police themselves who are investigating thomson.

Oh well, I am still pleased to be in the same sphere as the above.

Try a little harder next time labor corruption lover.

I think you'll find the reference to "sexism and nutjobs" was in relation to Pickering. Have a look at his website and you will understand.

That is not how gillard referenced it. She did have issues with pickering, but did not reference that statement directly to him.

As for pickering being sexist, I dont see how him writing an expose about a young and naive pregnant 35 year old partner in a law firm, is sexist. He is pushing her buttons and she does not like it.

Maybe you could point out what it is in particular for examples sake, that pickering has written that was sexist. Then I can evaluate why you may say what you said.

My guess is it is the plethora of cartoons featuring the PM sporting a strap-on dildo.
Evaluate that for us.

That is what pickering does. Have you seen his other cartoons? I take it is the dildo you find offensive. Well I am sure it is meant to be because he may believe gillard to be in a sham marriage. That does not make it sexist.

Pickering has been said to have less nudes of gillard than other ex-PM's.

Thought I had better take the nudy picture off, just in case it is against the code.

I link this site instead. I like the following in the article.
Quote:

As for the ‘nutjob’ barb, PM. That ‘nutjob’ got you standing at a podium for almost an hour, all from his keyboard, inciting legitimate questions while you fielded answers about your very questionable past. If he’s a nutjob, then he should have been ignored and discredited long ago. But you gave him all the time in the world today, the longest press conference from a PM in decades according to stunned political observers. Pretty crafty ol’ ‘nutjob’.

http://www.cagle.com/tag/larry-pickering/

Actually:
Well I am sure it is meant to be because he may believe gillard to be in a sham marriage.
would make it blatantly sexist.

Though I doubt that is the point of Pickering always drawing the PM with a strap-on didlo. I really have no idea what his point is - but I doubt that is it.

BTW - I have enjoyed Pickering's cartoons for many years. But the strap-on didlo is hardly cutting satire - simply sexist and unnecessary.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78311 Gender:	Re: Does my bum look big in prison blues Reply #28 - Aug 30^th, 2012 at 9:52pm geez there's some IDIOTS on here ... you don't think if there was any truth to the rumour, it would have come out the last 50 times this has been investigated ......
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53201 At my desk.	Re: Does my bum look big in prison blues Reply #29 - Sep 1^st, 2012 at 11:19pm Progs, the KCA people are upset about you copying the whole article. In future, please just copy a reasonable amount and give the link for people to follow to read the rest.
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