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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #60 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 5:06pm

The biggest enemy of the Australian economy at this time is WAYNE SWAN.

He fails to realise that whenever he opens his mouth about the Australian economy, to crow about how well we are relative to Europe, it reminds mums and dads how fragile the world economy is.

This scares the hell out of people, which prompts them to hang tight to their cash and not spend.

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #61 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 5:09pm

Shane B wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

International companies have warned the Gillard government that they may scale back investment plans in Australia due to carbon pricing, surging labour costs, the high dollar and political uncertainty.

Leading executives of multinational corporations claim that Australia’s business-friendly reputation is at risk and parent companies could shift resources to Asian nations.

http://catallaxyfiles.com/files/2012/08/regime-uncertainty.jpg

http://www.afr.com/p/national/global_ceos_challenge_labor_6A3YDPvIvFp89c5wVYZeFL

sorry, WHO ARE YA MATE?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #62 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 5:09pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 1:23pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

Workplace relations laws brought in by the Labor Government of Australia have not played well I know that much.

The legislation now for Fair Work Australia where we have to hand a leaflet out for every employee who starts in our ANZ entity is a timebomb.

Handing out to employees which says -

"Employees have the right to take 12 months maternity leave, with an option of 12 months beyond that, also to return to work at a timeframe suitable to their personal circumstance"

"Employee work hours must be fair and reasonable to their personal lives and not extend beyond 38 hours"

"An employer cannot discriminate within a role because of an employee's personal circumstance which may prevent them from working the specific hours mentioned"

I could go on.

Seriously, Fair Work Australia - brought in by this Government - has done nothing for the view held in Head Office that Australia is a Socialist country.

It's bad for business and bad for the country.

Another own-goal.

Heaven forbid they rise above their serfdom to a point where they think their personal lives and family

MAYBE

more important than the bottomline of a multinational conglomerate.

If it so bad why not suggest pulling out, 22 million people is hardly a major city in the northern hemisphere, your bottom linr would hardly notice it Wink

Smithy, the problem is not so much what Andrei says but rather the imperious profit-at-all-costs approach. Some of what he says is quite fair but his manner would make most people disagree with everything he said just out of principle. Despite his 'hate everything australian but love everything his mother and margaret thatcher says' approach, the ALP have set back industrial relations 20 years as a reward for the union support. Now it's time to take back that 20 years.

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #63 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 5:11pm

Shane B wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

The biggest enemy of the Australian economy at this time is WAYNE SWAN.

He fails to realise that whenever he opens his mouth about the Australian economy, to crow about how well we are relative to Europe, it reminds mums and dads how fragile the world economy is.

This scares the hell out of people, which prompts them to hang tight to their cash and not spend.

LOL. bring out the ol' year 11 economics text-books shane and try reading the bits you didn't highlight ya moron!!

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #64 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 5:12pm

gold_medal wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 5:09pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 1:23pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

Workplace relations laws brought in by the Labor Government of Australia have not played well I know that much.

The legislation now for Fair Work Australia where we have to hand a leaflet out for every employee who starts in our ANZ entity is a timebomb.

Handing out to employees which says -

"Employees have the right to take 12 months maternity leave, with an option of 12 months beyond that, also to return to work at a timeframe suitable to their personal circumstance"

"Employee work hours must be fair and reasonable to their personal lives and not extend beyond 38 hours"

"An employer cannot discriminate within a role because of an employee's personal circumstance which may prevent them from working the specific hours mentioned"

I could go on.

Seriously, Fair Work Australia - brought in by this Government - has done nothing for the view held in Head Office that Australia is a Socialist country.

It's bad for business and bad for the country.

Another own-goal.

Heaven forbid they rise above their serfdom to a point where they think their personal lives and family

MAYBE

more important than the bottomline of a multinational conglomerate.

If it so bad why not suggest pulling out, 22 million people is hardly a major city in the northern hemisphere, your bottom linr would hardly notice it Wink

Smithy, the problem is not so much what Andrei says but rather the imperious profit-at-all-costs approach. Some of what he says is quite fair but his manner would make most people disagree with everything he said just out of principle. Despite his 'hate everything australian but love everything his mother and margaret thatcher says' approach, the ALP have set back industrial relations 20 years as a reward for the union support.

Now it's time to take back that 20 years

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gold medal is saying a lot without actually saying a lot it would seem!!

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #65 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:04pm

Shane B wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

The biggest enemy of the Australian economy at this time is WAYNE SWAN.

He fails to realise that whenever he opens his mouth about the Australian economy, to crow about how well we are relative to Europe, it reminds mums and dads how fragile the world economy is.

This scares the hell out of people, which prompts them to hang tight to their cash and not spend.

Are you serious?
If Wayne just shuts up the mums and dads of OZ will suddenly forget global economic factors and go out and smash that credit card and re mortgage the equity in their home like its 2004 again.

The really sad thing is thats exactly what Tony and Shrek think will happen, WANT to happen.

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #66 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:17pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

Shane B wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

The biggest enemy of the Australian economy at this time is WAYNE SWAN.

He fails to realise that whenever he opens his mouth about the Australian economy, to crow about how well we are relative to Europe, it reminds mums and dads how fragile the world economy is.

This scares the hell out of people, which prompts them to hang tight to their cash and not spend.

Are you serious?
If Wayne just shuts up the mums and dads of OZ will suddenly forget global economic factors and go out and smash that credit card and re mortgage the equity in their home like its 2004 again.

The really sad thing is thats exactly what Tony and Shrek think will happen, WANT to happen.

With the way Wayne Swan is digging this country deeper into debt, I very much doubt that would be the case. They know the money will have to be paid back soon (more than likely by a Coalition govt, yet again) and so they're saving up their money as much as they can.

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #67 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:19pm

Shane B wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

The biggest enemy of the Australian economy at this time is WAYNE SWAN.

He fails to realise that whenever he opens his mouth about the Australian economy, to crow about how well we are relative to Europe, it reminds mums and dads how fragile the world economy is.

This scares the hell out of people, which prompts them to hang tight to their cash and not spend.

And I guess having Tony Abbott on the telly trashing the Australian economy every ten seconds has no impact whatsoever.

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #68 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:22pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:17pm:

With the way Wayne Swan is digging this country deeper into debt, I very much doubt that would be the case. They know the money will have to be paid back soon (more than likely by a Coalition govt, yet again) and so they're saving up their money as much as they can.

Quite aside from anything else do you have any notion of the difference between public and private debt?

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #69 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:31pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:17pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:04pm:

Shane B wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 5:06pm:

The biggest enemy of the Australian economy at this time is WAYNE SWAN.

He fails to realise that whenever he opens his mouth about the Australian economy, to crow about how well we are relative to Europe, it reminds mums and dads how fragile the world economy is.

This scares the hell out of people, which prompts them to hang tight to their cash and not spend.

Are you serious?
If Wayne just shuts up the mums and dads of OZ will suddenly forget global economic factors and go out and smash that credit card and re mortgage the equity in their home like its 2004 again.

The really sad thing is thats exactly what Tony and Shrek think will happen, WANT to happen.

With the way Wayne Swan is digging this country deeper into debt, I very much doubt that would be the case. They know the money will have to be paid back soon (more than likely by a Coalition govt, yet again) and so they're saving up their money as much as they can.

This was discussed with Shane a week or so ago.

Until told otherwise we are on target for a 1 bill surplus in 11 odd months.

Now yes I find this implausible, but having said that even 30 to 50% repayment of the 238 bill debt would be impressive considering we are talking 87 to 120 bill paid back in such a short time frame.

As was pointed out it took Costello 10 years with sales of assets to cover 96 bill.

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #70 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:44pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 12:07pm:

Shane B wrote on Aug 15^th, 2012 at 5:40pm:

International companies have warned the Gillard government that they may scale back investment plans in Australia due to carbon pricing, surging labour costs, the high dollar and political uncertainty.

Leading executives of multinational corporations claim that Australia’s business-friendly reputation is at risk and parent companies could shift resources to Asian nations.

INTERESTING interpretation by Rupert's AFR

If ONLY it matched the FACTS

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The current mining boom continues to exceed expectations

Tuesday, 31 July 2012

http://www.nmeb.com.au/images/stories/nsw-mining-logo-226px.png

The value of Australia’s resource and energy exports in 2010-11 increased by 27 per cent from a year earlier to a record $175 billion.
The Bureau of Resources and Energy Economics estimates the value of our mineral and energy commodity exports will increase by a further 21 per cent to $215 billion in 2011-12 as a result of growth in the production of iron ore, liquefied natural gas, copper, crude oil, metallurgical coal and thermal coal.

Since the Government announced details of the Minerals Resource Rent Tax and its plans to put a price on carbon, resource companies have approved billions of dollars of new spending on coal, iron ore, petroleum and other resource projects.

New capital expenditure on minerals and energy projects in 2010-11 was the highest on record and nearly four times the average annual expenditure of the past 30 years.
There is over $430 billion worth of planned or committed investment in the pipeline.
This year national exploration expenditure for minerals and energy is estimated to increase to $6.3 billion, from $5.7 billion in the previous year.

http://www.nmeb.com.au/mining-news/coal-and-csg/371-the-current-mining-boom-cont...

FURTHERMORE ...

Gillard defends govt economic policy

August 15, 20123:33PM

PRIME Minister Julia Gillard has defended her government's economic performance after a survey revealed a decline in international confidence in Australian business.

Ms Gillard used question time on Wednesday to beat down suggestions international investment in Australia was under threat because of political uncertainty and rising costs.

"We are seeing a huge investment pipeline into our country and there is more to come," she told parliament on Wednesday.

A survey of 111 firms, undertaken by CEO Forum Group, found 41 per cent of international companies surveyed were less likely to invest in Australia than they were 12 to 18 months ago.

About 60 per cent of executives said political uncertainty had worsened in that time.

"The source of that uncertainty is the opposition's plans to rip up every economic reform in this country that is contributing to our prosperity," Ms Gillard said.

The prime minister said her government had performed well economically despite difficulties during the global financial crisis.

She said $919 billion had been spent on private business investment since 2007.

New private business investment is growing at the fastest rate in a decade, while business investment as a percentage of the nation's gross domestic product had reached its highest level in 40 years during the March quarter, she said.

"And we expect it to rise further this financial year and next financial year."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/gillard-defends-govt-economic-pol...

No disputing any of THAT ... IS there ?

The media tells us people have "stopped listening" to Gillard ?

Justifiably, Rupert's Rags are suffering the same fate
The Australian ( ... and sister publication, the Australian Financial Review) holds nowhere NEAR the influence it had before it's

joint Liberal Party project

it named

"UteGate"

- and those infamous FAKE EMAILS it published as "evidence"

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Shane B Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1473 Canberra Gender:	Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer Reply #71 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:48pm Yes in fact, that investment Gillard is referring to is primarily in mining and is locked in. The survey was referring to investment intentions. The word is out there, "You can't trust the Gillard Government, stay away from Australia".
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Reply #72 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 8:02pm

Shane B wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:48pm:

Yes in fact, that investment Gillard is referring to is primarily in mining and is locked in.

The survey was referring to investment intentions.

The word is out there, "You can't trust the Gillard Government, stay away from Australia".

Is that what you tell all your patients ,Dr matty? Cheesy

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Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer
Reply #73 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 8:11pm

Shane B wrote on Aug 16^th, 2012 at 7:48pm:

Yes in fact, that investment Gillard is referring to is primarily in mining and is locked in.

The survey was referring to investment intentions.

The word is out there, "You can't trust the Gillard Government, stay away from Australia".

59% say any "risk" is unchanged or BETTER than 12 to 18 months ago

Quote:

Forum organisers yesterday asked the participants at the two-day event to avoid Financial Review journalists working in Parliament House.

http://afr.com/p/national/global_ceos_challenge_labor_6A3YDPvIvFp89c5wVYZeFL

I wonder WHY ?
Probably sick and tired of being misrepresented by the "Murdoch Touch"

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Shane B Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1473 Canberra Gender:	Re: Labor - flushing Australia down the sewer Reply #74 - Aug 16^th, 2012 at 8:19pm I think you'll find The Australian Financial Review is a Fairfax publication.
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